Israel x Iran Conflict (89 Viewers)

[Nibbler]

Well China IS going to initiate an invasion of Taiwan post 2028. At this point it's not even an open secret , it's pretty much out in the open.

How do you think the US will respond ?

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Where is it out in the open? Still speculation.

If this was to happen.
I think a US emboldened by victory in ME would likely respond kinetically.

 

[Azaad]

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Where is it out in the open? Still speculation.

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If this was to happen.
I think a US emboldened by victory in ME would likely respond kinetically.

And how do you think this'd end ?

 

[Doreamon]

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Last night was intense


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Also israel bombed some ballistic missiles manufacturing base


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There are many indications of USA joing the bombing session .

If regime remains in some distant future we might see this happening in newyork . Given their record so far they are going to build thousands of more marv capable ballistic missiles in future .

 

[snakeeyes07]

Last night was intense


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/IranIsraelWarReport/s/s4b942nbIY


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/IranIsraelWarReport/s/zB6Yz8w93l

Also israel bombed some ballistic missiles manufacturing base


View: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935123200276373692

There are many indications of USA joing the bombing session .

If regime remains in some distant future we might see this happening in newyork . Given their record so far they are going to build thousands of more marv capable ballistic missiles in future .

DRDO should think about developing dummy ballistic missiles which carries no warheads, are cheap and designed to mimic midcourse phase profile of actual ballistic missile. This would deplete the exo interceptors of the adversary.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

All right ! I don't think I could get my point across well to you & @Nibbler coz I didn't articulate my PoV well .

Instead of focusing on the tactical part of the equation I should have focused on the meta narrative which would have highlighted the faulty strategy of the US & the reason I think it won't get out , not without paying a heavy price.

What's the reason individuals or groups or nations crave power ? It's to do with material prosperity for power for its own sake doesn't yield anything.

Beginning 1990 with the collapse of the USSR the US was the sole super power of the world. The Chinese even called them the world's first hyper power .

If the US Deep State wanted it could've enacted policies which would have ensured American hegemony for another century.

Yet within less than 35 years , the US is on the brink of losing its premium status in the world. Now we can argue all day about how it is eliminating Iran like it did Saddam's regime earlier or how Putin's been brought to his knees or how the Europeans have been shown their place but in the larger scheme of things how have all these developments ensured the US continues its hegemony as sole super power of the world.

For starters it has done something unprecedented in the recorded history of mankind which is not only to aid the rise of its rival & be directly complicit in it namely the rise of China.

To think the world's foremost brain on foreign policy & strategy & practitioner of realpolitik - the Jew boy Henry Kissinger was behind the entire US policy on China .

Irrespective whose administration it was in power he was invited to the WH to be consulted so much so that Jew boy was seen as US's interlocutor with the CCP whereas he was in actuality the unofficial Chinese ambassador to the US.

Now it's not as if the US was unaware this was happening. Back in 2001 it perpetrated what's now known as the Hainan Incident . However before things could proceed further down that path , 9/11 happened.

In fact I'd go so far as to argue that with the collapse of the USSR , inhibitions which crept into the US Deep State post Vietnam about directly intervening in another country militarily , went for a toss. Check out direct US military interventions before 1990 & post 1990 including Afghanistan.

If you want to maintain your hegemony over the world , first & foremost , you do it thru trade & maintaining your stranglehold over technology for which peace is a pre requisite.

Problems require trouble shooting thru diplomacy where war becomes a tool of the last resort . However successive administrations since 1990 have been seen to be more trigger happy than its predecessor.

Consider "Nobel Peace Prize winner " Obummer. He withdrew from Iraq , ordered the surge in Afghanistan post Operation Neptune Spear & then got involved in Syria & Libya & another half a dozen other spots too insignificant to register.

I could go on . Trust you get the drift.

Up until this point I've been focusing only on their foreign policy . Check out their financial & monetary policies . Check out their debt in 1990 & what it is today. Check out what damages shipping off entire industries overseas especially to China has had on the middle & lower classes in the US. Mfg has practically disappeared.

This in turn has exacerbated social tensions , racial tensions , class tensions & is leading to the rise of a new class of politicians - the socialist democrats which is short hand for communists .

With cleavages opening up into chasms which are unbridgeable , all this tinder box requires is a spark.IMO the war over Taiwan will be that spark.

I get what you are saying. They surely will prefer prosperity and trade. However, They have lost this battle to Chinese. Chinese are major trading partners of most countries. All of it built on stable international shipping lines secured by the Americans. So, Its no wonder if the americans don't care about stability of international shipping lines while its Atlantic lines are pretty secure. So these unstable geographies actually makes sense to them. Houthi saga actually play in their interest. They can claim they can't secure every node. Its too expensive but will surely escort american vessels while leaving others without any security cover.

 

[Adibot]

DRDO should think about developing dummy ballistic missiles which carries no warheads, are cheap and designed to mimic midcourse phase profile of actual ballistic missile. This would deplete the exo interceptors of the adversary.

Anything DRDO or any private defense company develops should be done keeping US and China as the main threat
Things are heading that way fast

 

[snakeeyes07]

I think it is too much movements for just some coercive diplomacy


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[Sanglamorre]

Sodium ion battery is already a reality in china with multiple battery makers. In India Reliance is getting ready to manufacture it after it bought a EU company.

Na-ion batteries currently have enough capacity store and distribute the output of a power plant?

 

[Sanglamorre]

Yes there would be a trade off there. You switch to EV from ICE as part of a nationwide policy & consumption of fossil fuel powered plants will increase.

So will plants powered by renewable power sources & Nuclear power including neo fuel sources like hydrogen.



Answered this above.



We're already into a 5 min full 100% charge mode . Charging time will further decrease plus you will have stations which swap batteries which will probably be sold as a plan to consumers. All such schemes & much more would be worked out. Never discount human ingenuity in this regard. These problems aren't insurmountable merely challenging.

So, if the goal is to move away from fossil fuel, having to build new energy infrastructure based on fossil fuel to handle the new enormous load due to EV switch seems counter productive, especially since they'll be temporary. I don't think govts will go for it.

Current production methods of hydrogen at scale require fossil fuels.

I agree with you about the challenges not being insurmountable. I'm only disagreeing with the timeline. I give it 50-60 years more to relevancy of fossil fuel.

 

[fire starter]

No need to bring these kathmullas back.

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[Ajatshatru]

China spends only about 1.7% of its GDP on defense, so India’s 1.9% defense spending isn’t the real issue. The main problem lies in the lack of indigenous platforms and weapons, especially in the Air Force. Once the Tejas is inducted in significant numbers and the AMCA follows, the situation will improve. It’s not just about increasing the defense budget—what truly matters is building indigenous capabilities, just as China did.

 

[Doreamon]

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Include pakistan and Azerbaizan .


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[Miss Firing]

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Include pakistan and Azerbaizan .


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For services rendered, for holes being made rent-able



He will be meeting Rubio & Hegseth.

Pretty sure MAGA baboons have promised something in return.

 

[Miss Firing]

American vassal state Germsmany thanks der jude for doing "their dirty work".

 

[spikey360]

American vassal state Germsmany thanks der jude for doing "their dirty work".

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What a country of lowlifes this Germany has become.
To think it's the country of Bismark..!

 

[Ajatshatru]

China spends only about 1.7% of its GDP on defense, so India’s 1.9% defense spending isn’t the real issue. The main problem lies in the lack of indigenous platforms and weapons, especially in the Air Force. Once the Tejas is inducted in significant numbers and the AMCA follows, the situation will improve. It’s not just about increasing the defense budget—what truly matters is building indigenous capabilities, just as China did.

Pakistan faces no such challenge, as it can easily procure military hardware from China without bearing heavy development costs. India, on the other hand, must build a strong indigenous military-industrial complex—without it, the country could face serious strategic disadvantages.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Hydrogen

It is an volatile fuel to deal with. Too much hassle in storage and maintenance. Also Easily combustible. Requires an bigger tank to store. Result, the vehicle will compromise the volume.

On the other hand companies were trying to build H-ICE engines for commercial purpose, since they have free space to set up bigger tanks.

My current suggestion will be allowing Hybrid Vehicle systems especially Range extender will have some 20KWH batteries and a small 1.2 L engine acting as generator. The primary drivetrain is Electric motor and whenever the battery runs out of juice, the engine will start to charge the battery.

Now this setup is pretty efficient. The engine will always runs at optimum RPM meaning you consume less fuel. Electric motors were highly efficient in transferring the power to wheels. So we can Motor specific advantages instant torque, regen etc.

Then We can play around with Fuel composition by doing E25.

 

[KrishRus]

Pakistan faces no such challenge, as it can easily procure military hardware from China without bearing heavy development costs. India, on the other hand, must build a strong indigenous military-industrial complex—without it, the country could face serious strategic disadvantages.

You are right, but pakistan DOES pay a price. It will be unsustainable to have a conventional force for pakistan in the future if they try this strategy. Their window for any operation against india is going to close by 2030 , as by then india's constantly reforming defence ecosystem (the bureaucracy and industry and political will) will start churning out indigenous solutions just like it is in some sectors such as armor,shells,etc that does not hurt its cash reserves and infacts boosts it politcak captial as they will be employing indians and our own industry.

Also sustaining a large force like this for pakistan is growing ever more harder as systems get more expensive and all this is after neglecting every other portion of their country which weakens their country in other indirect ways. It creates a vicious cycle.

I know that their awaam has a much higher resistance to bad times and can stomach poverty much better than average, but even they will not be able to withstand the deprivation that is going to come to their 'society' due to this grand strategy of pakistan for which they are being neglected and exploited by the mullah,-military complex. Their every need has been put on the back burner including health care,education,sanitation,infrastructure, business environment reforms,etc. Not to mention their almost complete lack of any investment in high science and research - the long time frame items that india has a sizeable focus on since forever.

This also does not even take into the recent aftereffects of the industry water treaty abeyance on their primitive economy.

 

[Varzone]

It is an volatile fuel to deal with. Too much hassle in storage and maintenance. Also Easily combustible. Requires an bigger tank to store. Result, the vehicle will compromise the volume.

On the other hand companies were trying to build H-ICE engines for commercial purpose, since they have free space to set up bigger tanks.

My current suggestion will be allowing Hybrid Vehicle systems especially Range extender will have some 20KWH batteries and a small 1.2 L engine acting as generator. The primary drivetrain is Electric motor and whenever the battery runs out of juice, the engine will start to charge the battery.

Now this setup is pretty efficient. The engine will always runs at optimum RPM meaning you consume less fuel. Electric motors were highly efficient in transferring the power to wheels. So we can Motor specific advantages instant torque, regen etc.

Then We can play around with Fuel composition by doing E25.

I also like hybrid system but chances of equipment failure is highest since it has lower calibre of two different systems working together. Increases complexity and cost of maintenance.

I suggested hydrogen for industrial purposes not for cars anyway. We are already using hydrogen I posted a picture before of all the companies I’m checking to invest in that space.

 

[Ajatshatru]

You are right, but pakistan DOES pay a price. It will be unsustainable to have a conventional force for pakistan in the future if they try this strategy. Their window for any operation against india is going to close by 2030 , as by then india's constantly reforming defence ecosystem (the bureaucracy and industry and political will) will start churning out indigenous solutions just like it is in some sectors such as armor,shells,etc that does not hurt its cash reserves and infacts boosts it politcak captial as they will be employing indians and our own industry.

Also sustaining a large force like this for pakistan is growing ever more harder as systems get more expensive and all this is after neglecting every other portion of their country which weakens their country in other indirect ways. It creates a vicious cycle.

I know that their awaam has a much higher resistance to bad times and can stomach poverty much better than average, but even they will not be able to withstand the deprivation that is going to come to their 'society' due to this grand strategy of pakistan for which they are being neglected and exploited by the mullah,-military complex. Their every need has been put on the back burner including health care,education,sanitation,infrastructure, business environment reforms,etc. Not to mention their almost complete lack of any investment in high science and research - the long time frame items that india has a sizeable focus on since forever.

This also does not even take into the recent aftereffects of the industry water treaty abeyance on their primitive economy.

Yes, but the scale of military strength India needs to fight a two-front war is only achievable through indigenous manufacturing of military platforms.
Pakistan neither has the capacity nor the necessity to develop a military industrial base—but for India, it’s essential.