Israel x Iran Conflict (29 Viewers)

I still can't get over how insanely CUCKED the chongs are. Not even a strongly worded statement...

Even 56" had the idea to go to Cyprus to do some kanging against the Turkroaches. Even knowing we would be too kanjoos to give the cypriots free weapons in case of conflict, we still made our stance against t*rkey clear.

The hans think sending the mongoloid-maxxer Victor Gao and that other loser on Al-Arabiya and a few Gora podcasts will send a message. Never seen a country so economically powerful be so insanely neutered. I understand that they refused to overtly support the inbreds because they know when push comes to shove Muneera will only show his bashful side and do punjabi specialty mujra in front of the burgers. But Iran getting hammered like this and them being so quiet.. not even a ching chong...

Either something is seriously wrong internally or they are going to attack Taiwan in the next 1-2 years. They can't be that stupid to not know they're next. Russia busy, Iran fcked - who do they think is next? Either way we will dhando-maxx.

If we become a 15 trillion economy our kanging would be more potent than anything the columbians produce. No wonder they see us as a threat.

Chings are too dependent on global stability i think

This is what happens when you trademaxxx

Their economy will be deleted by sanctions and millions of Chongs will become jobless if they do some kind of direct intervention for saving the Mullahs.

There has been kanging since almost a decade to turn China into a domestic consumption based economy rather than an export oriented one to avoid the economic and social fallout of a muscular foreign policy move like the above

Or Anschlussing Taiwan.

Me thinks they are going to blow their economy to sanctions only over Taiwan, then once they have been made nanga by the fires of being a Great Power openly hostile with the West, they'll come after us next.

Till then they will do their ((( bide your time ))) hijda pan and dO nOTHiNg, WiN coping
 
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we don't know yet if they are "now past" or not.
what were the last known events that resembled a decapitation strike on hezbollah?
Hezbollah has agreed to ceasefire and now has no interest in engaging in a wider conflict with Israel. Its supply lines with Iran via Syria has collapsed. Its now more inward focussed. It has lost a significant number of human and material resources. No, certainity for resumption of supply lines. Thus its out of conflict. It no longer pose a major threat to Israel for some time. They are reduced to nuissance value now.

 
Russia is a curious case. The aim seems to have been to prevent the Russians team up with the Chinese when the west moved against them in a confrontation. The alternative view is the Biden administration undertook what they did in Ukraine with a view to tie down Russia , increase the dependency of their European allies on the US & cripple the EU's economy by forcing a breakdown in their energy dependency on Russia.

The US was never comfortable with the EU's emerging economic clout for that's usually a prelude to independent decision making . That's what the French were planning since long with ze Germans except Merkel was ambivalent about the entire thing.
With the UK out of the EU , the US lost leverage over the EU given the UK has always played a spoiler to the EU becoming more independent in its decision making unaligned to the US's policies.

There's another school of view that Biden given his old ties to China undertook what he did in the Ukraine Russia affair so that the US would focus on Russia instead of China. There was an ample bipartisan Cold Warrior lobby in the US who wanted Russia cut down to size who willingly obliged.

Methinks the opposite.
Their original scheme was to flip Russia to give them bases on the northern flank of China, this includes the Central Asian stans, iirc Kazakhstan has another border with China.
So as to this goal they did Regime Change protest in Russia in 2012 after Putya won the election there
Putya BTFO the regime changists and i guess purged all such traitors from Roos

They realized Roos is a fortress now so set their sights on Ukraine, the Maidan regime change of 2014 was a success.
Putin chimped out in panic and that's how you have the Crimea anschluss in the same year.

In 2021-2022 they tried to regime change Lukashenko of Belarus, but after a year of drama Russian "peace keepers" appeared and applied the danda to regime change artists, and Lukashenko bent the knee to Putya
A similar thing happened in Kazakshtan and once again Russian peacekeepers saved the day.

So I think this is why they baited him into Ukraine war, the EU wala reasons that you gave fit into this, it also means Russia is a European problem while they focus on the Pacific/East Asia, this is a final fuck you to the Russian regime change project, since they can't get Russia it is better that it be gimped fighting a long, grinding war.

The blowback of this are that Chong and Russia are in an inevitable military alliance, that of necessity and not choice.
Russia needs Chinese $$$ and tech to survive.
China needs Russian oil, coal, gas, minerals, metals etc to compensate for loss of access to global markets which will occur when the sanctions for Anschlussing Taiwan hit.
 
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for India.

where are the things that you claimed reflected in the data?

Do you really think India, China or United States, top three countries with the most arable land will have food being what limits them??
Huh, interesting, where is this data from?

You're right about certain things though. I misinterpreted the data at first glance. Chinese food imports are a function of wanting to build a stockpile+ population moving towards a better, higher quality diet+ livestock farming.

They'll be able to meet basic nutrition needs, especially the downgraded, rationed ones of wartime.
 
All this reminds of Pakistan's role in whatever happening in the world relating to nuclear weapon .

In 1980-90. AQ Khan network transferred blueprint of nuclear technology stolen from Europe to North korea , Libiya and Iran .. Infact the centrifuges used in Natanz were the same design to that of used in Pakistan's kahuta facility . This proliferation was admitted by AQ khan ..

It is very unlikely it was just one person doing all this regarding such a sensitive technology . It was the pakistani deep state raising funds for its own programs .
 
Hezbollah has agreed to ceasefire and now has no interest in engaging in a wider conflict with Israel. Its supply lines with Iran via Syria has collapsed. Its now more inward focussed. It has lost a significant number of human and material resources. No, certainity for resumption of supply lines. Thus its out of conflict. It no longer pose a major threat to Israel for some time. They are reduced to nuissance value now.


this is a NATO version of the story.

this piece conveniently skips mentioning this event.

What we know about the Hezbollah device explosions​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04m913m49o


sometimes exfarts get it wrong.

19th sep 2024.

Attacks on Hezbollah pagers will not improve Israel’s situation on its border with Lebanon​




there should be a hezbollah version of story.
haven't looked into it yet, see if you can find it, it may not be in english.
 
Israeli decimation of Syrian air assets is very much public and so is their capture of strategic heights in Syria. Netanyahu even went to that hill. Syrian air space since has been under complete Israeli control. Its use thus should not come as a surprise. The real surprise is Saudi letting Israeli's use their airspace.

Israelis were already using their planes like mobile artillery in Hamas. So, it should not be a surprise either.

Now, A lot of water has flown under the bridge. What has happened has happened.
Flying fighter jets is one thing but slow moving huge ass KCs is another story altogether. Israelis are convinced of their invincibility over Syrian airspace. That is what's surprising to me.

Israel is pushed up to Quneitra. That is not too deep in Syria if you don't consider Golan heights a part of Syria anymore.

There's also a world of difference between Iran and Gaza. Gaza is smaller than some Indian cities. It's a 30 minute operation for most Israeli planes after takeoff to hit their targets there (At most).
Iran is HUGE and very far. The stress on the pilot, the airframe, the threat to a strike package and the planning required to sustain the op tempo is way heavier so one would assume there'd be some level of tradeoff in the intensity and some level of fatigue induced failures but they're treating the entirety of Iran like they treated Nasrallah.

Just smooth operations throughout.
 
If US under Trump doesn't come in defence of Israel as things get worst and let the Middle East power balance go haywire, then I don't know how likely is it that it will come in defence of Taiwan against China.
This is not game of equals , in the sense , Israel has nuks to use at their disposal. They may blackmail with that if the question of existence is arise. to me there will be trues in weeks time. Iran will agree for peaceful nuclear programmer soon.
 
this is a NATO version of the story.

this piece conveniently skips mentioning this event.

What we know about the Hezbollah device explosions​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04m913m49o


sometimes exfarts get it wrong.

19th sep 2024.

Attacks on Hezbollah pagers will not improve Israel’s situation on its border with Lebanon​




there should be a hezbollah version of story.
haven't looked into it yet, see if you can find it, it may not be in english.
Yes, I looked into Hezbollah story too. Heck i even read Hamas story too.
But frankly speaking they truly don't have the material and human resources to launch a large scale offensive against Israel. It is what matters. If we take their standard, Hamas is still very well alive in Gaza strip.
So, We have to clearly choose a threat based standard. But than you can accuse me of shifting goal posts now. But the original point still stands. Hamas is nearly eliminated(embryonic), Hezbollah is made ineffective(legs and arms cut) and Mullah will be stripped naked. Houthis are just saboteurs. We can't just take the standards of greens. Greens have different standards of defeat. To them their mere existence is tantamount to victory. I have read tweets where palestines are celebrating. Le Yahood couldn't break us and much more cope.

Hamas: Extensive Loss of manpower, material assets and even staging ground. (Effectively eliminated)
Hezbollah: Effective Degradation of command network, extensive loss of heavy weaponary, enlargement of buffer region. (Effectively decapitated)

Now each have their own standards. Many think Khalistan is still alive but we all know its just of nuissance value. Mostly a shield used by street thugs and criminals now.
 
The point is Eron will be stripped off of its conventional capabilities.

Now about Desperation moves. They are rapidly running out of time even on them. Its poxies are rendered ineffective, syria is neutralized, BM are not as effective. What options do they have to inflict cost on Israel?? Hormuz?? It will internationalize the conflict and bring other players into action.

Long Term repurcussion?? What will be new in it? They already face every subconventional and conventional threat from multiple actors. This conflict is not going to change anything on that front. The change has happened already with Hamas and palestine.
The US will become more powerful in this region. Iran was standing against them and after their defeat , Turkey , UAE and KSA will have to tone the US line and keep distance from China . Iran's fall will cause more damage to Russia and China to some extent India too. Oil and Chabhar will be controlled by US .
Hind side will be Israel will focus on towards Pak Nukes .
 
Flying fighter jets is one thing but slow moving huge ass KCs is another story altogether. Israelis are convinced of their invincibility over Syrian airspace. That is what's surprising to me.

Israel is pushed up to Quneitra. That is not too deep in Syria if you don't consider Golan heights a part of Syria anymore.

There's also a world of difference between Iran and Gaza. Gaza is smaller than some Indian cities. It's a 30 minute operation for most Israeli planes after takeoff to hit their targets there (At most).
Iran is HUGE and very far. The stress on the pilot, the airframe, the threat to a strike package and the planning required to sustain the op tempo is way heavier so one would assume there'd be some level of tradeoff in the intensity and some level of fatigue induced failures but they're treating the entirety of Iran like they treated Nasrallah.

Just smooth operations throughout.
Exactly, I am also amazed by the operation. In my earlier response i wanted to discuss this aspect too. But i shied away from it. Thanks for bringing it up. I believe they systematically honed and tested their limits in Gaza bombing run. It showed their intent to use FAs as mobile artillery and use them heavily. Still more than them running out of interceptors i am thinking about the logistics of maintenance schedule of these FA. Logistics of this fleet readiness if incredible.

BTW Syria is completely sanitized.
 
The video shows the destruction of an Israeli drone by an Iranian air defense system. Presumably, the IAI Eitan UAV, export designation Heron TP, was shot down. The location of the shooting is not reported. The IAI Eitan UAV has been produced since 2004, it is equivalent in size to an airplane, with a wingspan of 26 meters. The IAI Eitan UAV is designed for reconnaissance and strikes on targets. The IAI Eitan UAV develops a speed of up to 407 km / h, at an altitude of up to 14,000 meters. The flight range is up to 7,400 km, the carrying capacity is up to 2,700 kg. The cost of the UAV is about 30 thousand dollars.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MsP6F9Zv4Q
 
US is involved, not bogged down.
China wants to get US into something they can't withdraw immediately from. They want serious boots on the ground. Air campaigns are not that crazy of a risk. It will take less than a week to reconsolidate and stage their airpower before using it as planned against China.
If they put boots on the ground though, they will suffer a Kabul-esque withdrawal on steroids if they hasten their retreat to put troops elsewhere.
Any military which retreats in a hasty, uncoordinated manner suffers terrible manpower losses. US isn't stupid enough to do that but once it commits army assets somewhere, it will prolong their response time tremendously, spanning maybe even more than a month (time which Taiwan may not have).

China is right to wait it out. The hysterics of Trump will eventually push US into another 20 year COIN op glorified as war and then China can fuck around and maybe not find out.
In my view , China will not invade Taiwan , they will take over slowly with political strategy by making pro - china government . Ant direct war and China will start economic downturn. Even Glawan was only to ditter and test India. They will never wedge war against India , that will be biggest mistake of their life time. They very well understands that 1962 was different , I do not say we have superiority over them , but they will not be able to defeat us like 1962 now.
 
The US will become more powerful in this region. Iran was standing against them and after their defeat , Turkey , UAE and KSA will have to tone the US line and keep distance from China . Iran's fall will cause more damage to Russia and China to some extent India too. Oil and Chabhar will be controlled by US .
Hind side will be Israel will focus on towards Pak Nukes .
We already in western camp. US already has enough leverage against us. So, fall of Mullah regime is not changing that equation between US and India. It though will change equation between Pak and India. Here i am sure unless our policy goes significantly against US we need not worry about new regime in Iran.
 
The brothel is open for service again
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Most of these are Thrashmiri Medical students

Should have let them stay there and do chummah -e- ummah
 
Chinese have massive food dependency. They import about ~80% of their food, and is the largest importer of food. They industrialized at the cost of agriculture.

Right sanctions can be as effective as a mediaeval siege.
They import food because they can dosent mean they dont have their own food . Chinese can eat anything food is their last problem.
And also look how much food they export and how many food items they are market leader in you will be surprised.
 

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