LCA TEJAS MK-I & MK-IA: News and Discussion (22 Viewers)

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

U r just too naive … IIT and DRDO has people working which didnt even pass the test

i m questioning about theory of,
entrance test merit = talent

 

[redpanda]

There is no need to use Uttam then, it will forever be a "science project" item and even Atmanirbhar Armenia can't help us there.

Yeah there is always chance of that. This is rather depressing. Though, DRDO & MoD babus are trying to export it. So there is still a lot of chance of it's remaining alive. Our ekanami premi leader ji is also very eager to export these kind of stuff and has given task to MoD to do everything to make whatever we produce export worthy. We are pitching Uttam and SRK to a good chunk of countries.

 

[Brood Father]

HAL is very incompetent organization. It is amazing how IAF can have an iota of faith in it .

I now doubt on the Tejas capabilities. HAL is only good for screwdrivergiri , beyond that it is a worthless org

 

[shade2]

Yeah there is always chance of that. This is rather depressing. Though, DRDO & MoD babus are trying to export it. So there is still a lot of chance of it's remaining alive. Our ekanami premi leader ji is also very eager to export these kind of stuff and has given task to MoD to do everything to make whatever we produce export worthy. We are pitching Uttam and SRK to a good chunk of countries.

This also opens the door to killing Virupaksha

Ruskals can offer their Byelka AESA radar used on su-57 for our Super Sukhoi upgrade.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

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Edited pic to show an A2A maxxxing loadout on tejas

btw are these fuel tanks necessary for it?

kinda yeah, fuel supply is limited. At full afterburner it goes through ~4kg/s of fuel, i.e. on half full internal tanks it only gets 4 mins of afterburner.


BTW



This also likely infeasible due to interference with the intake just above it. However, the right center pylon (in this image, or left side of pilot) can take two missiles.

 

[redpanda]

This also opens the door to killing Virupaksha

Ruskals can offer their Byelka AESA radar used on su-57 for our Super Sukhoi upgrade.

That Russian radar is a GAAs radar though with less T/R modules than Virupaksha. No doubt it has many features but I doubt they can fit it in Su-30 MKI. So there is less chance of killing it. Though a lot can still happen, like certification issue.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

I'm sorry to say this but this is by far the worst possible dual pylon arrangement you can have. With a missile like ASRAAM, so clean and with hardly any fins - you can really pack them tight. Did HAL or ADA design this?

It just wreaks of a lack of confidence to try out more efficient and effective dual racks because you are scared of aerodynamic integration which in turn means you are just not confident in your ability in aerodynamics - even with such a simple and clean missile like ASRAAM.

I can literally hear the thoughts of the intern who designed this "Just keep the missiles as far apart as possible, so I don't have to work on aerodynamic interaction. Oh no! this now eats into the next pylon and almost eliminated changes on the next pylon - oh fuck it at least this way I can show something and won't have to deal with the aerodynamic interaction. We will deal with the problem later when users ask for more weapons on the primary pylons - somebody else's problem".

This seems like HAL to me, since I have plenty of colleagues who deal with HAL and can attest to their incompetence (folks working at MBDA, Martin Baker, BAE etc.) - I have usually pushed back on them but after seeing this there is little doubt.

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I dont see why a design like this



wasnt used, like the chinese have. The only thing I can think of is drag issues?

Still, there remains one last issue - Why not tilt this config? Would keep the fin separation while reducing horizontal space.

 

[Tumba]

i m questioning about theory of,
entrance test merit = talent

I am questioning the competency… no person who is scoring 0 aka Zero on entrances should be allowed to take positions in institution of national security… its not about equality here its about protection of same unprivileged folks from a foreign enemy

 

[liberalredditor]

atmanirbhar armenia pls save uttam and indigenous tejas mk1a from this hal-israel tejas, armenia pls

 

[randombully]

That Russian radar is a GAAs radar though with less T/R modules than Virupaksha. No doubt it has many features but I doubt they can fit it in Su-30 MKI. So there is less chance of killing it. Though a lot can still happen, like certification issue.

Also that russian radar is their first gen aesa radar.
Virupaksha would our third gen aesa radar( means lot more refined and capable), along with using GaN.

 

[snakeeyes07]

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I dont see why a design like this

View attachment 41503

wasnt used, like the chinese have. The only thing I can think of is drag issues?

Still, there remains one last issue - Why not tilt this config? Would keep the fin separation while reducing horizontal space.

Maybe in future with mk1a too?

 

[shade2]

That Russian radar is a GAAs radar though with less T/R modules than Virupaksha. No doubt it has many features but I doubt they can fit it in Su-30 MKI. So there is less chance of killing it. Though a lot can still happen, like certification issue.

Also that russian radar is their first gen aesa radar.
Virupaksha would our third gen aesa radar( means lot more refined and capable), along with using GaN.

But ours will have the same usual problems of "not proven" then ofc there will be delays and all.

Really sad state of affairs, beset by dalals on all sides and those who should care don't.

Rajnath only there to warm his kursi.

 

[snakeeyes07]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1939231688887853523

 

[redpanda]

Uttam and Indigenous EW suite will be pretty much ready by the time these starts to get into production. So there is still hope for our own indigenous suite.

Defence Ministry places tender to purchase 97 additional Tejas Mk-1A fighters

The decision to buy 97 additional Tejas Mk-1A fighter aircraft will help strengthen the Indian Air Force (IAF) which is currently dealing with the depletion of fighter squadrons.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[KAB7777]

So i was saying about HAL impoorting some part from abroad when DRDO item was available

The part was "Primary Actuators" imported from Moog inc. of US

LCA Tejas updates: Integration testing of India-made actuators begins

HAL's Bengaluru facility begins integration testing of indigenous actuators for LCA Tejas, aiming for self-reliance. Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre supports indigenisation, with plans to replace costly imported actuators with efficient domestic versions

www.theweek.in

Below some Atmanirbhar devotee twitter patrakar has exposed HAL's love for imported parts


View: https://x.com/writetake/status/1860486646598144481

Or maybe HAL only doing it for customers?
Idk

AKM is one of the OG defence journalists in India based in Bangalore with great access to DRDO and HAL. He was a close confidant of Dr. Kalam too. He’s been unwell off late and has been taking rest and not been as active as in the past. I had met him a few months ago at Mangalore International Airport. He even had made a series on YouTube regarding the LCA Program called Hamara Tejas. He is a little old fashioned, but he probably has the greatest access to Bangalore based labs and PSUs.

View: https://x.com/adityab_77/status/1877368220459364445?s=61&t=yuvGwS0cN0KJv4VlBwTZFg

View: https://youtu.be/5rjt5gdEBlw?si=bD1HPOTnhm_G1KrF

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

I am questioning the competency… no person who is scoring 0 aka Zero on entrances should be allowed to take positions in institution of national security… its not about equality here its about protection of same unprivileged folks from a foreign enemy

okkk....my point is instead of numbers in one entrance test. selection should be based on how many science projects in school nd college a student participate, his interest in research in science topics, his own machine building work etc type practical works. beside this how that student perform nd knowledge of his 3-4 year graduation/PG course. then we can say a student hv talent nd he can invent something.

 

[truthsoldier]

i m questioning about theory of,
entrance test merit = talent

When there is difference of literally 50% marks then no amount of talent can compensate for the lack of knowledge. It is all ok till a point. Also how do you identify talent without an objective way of entrance test especially in a public setup

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1939033997797134706

TLDR

They are going with imported radar because deshi radar and EW would delay timelines again.


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1939008376534638759

 

[truthsoldier]

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1939033997797134706

TLDR

They are going with imported radar because deshi radar and EW would delay timelines again.


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1939008376534638759

Hal is providing new aircrafts to foreign OEMs but older ones to Drdo for certification. Yeh kaisa doglapan

 

[ArjunMK1A]

I was fuming few days back when BEL is applying for an Gun tender when BEL is supposed to be an Electronics ODM/OEM. Now, recently DRDO ToT 10 tech and for an Land Vehicle BEL is ToT partner. Why the hell an Electronics company trying to build Land systems, Guns etc. They are sitting in cash and India now importing all sub components for Mobile, Laptops and other electronics from China, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea etc. BEL with that money can invest in Mobile Phone components like RF Transrecievers, sensors like Accelerometer, proximity sensor. Heck BEL can do an JV with Panasonic to build NMC battery in India, since we are importing everything from China.

If GOI is ready to bailout PSU, same GOI can guide these PSU to invest in areas where we are lacking. Not on useless areas like guns were we have OFB and other private guys and Land systems when we have big players in Commercial Trucks/buses.