North East States: Law and Order

[tomthounaojam87]

Not much in the last few days or maybe because of the net ban, just sporadic protests, and riots in some places in Manipur.

 

[Blademaster]

Not much in the last few days or maybe because of the net ban, just sporadic protests, and riots in some places in Manipur.

And let's keep it that way. The only people that are allowed to make any kind of news or impact are state authorities moving in to arrest or stop these shitbags and keep them from murdering any more innocent people and restore the area to normalcy.

 

[Clawreed]

This madness can't go on forever! Centre has to act .. either crackdown or have them put on table for talks .

But it's clear that centre doesn't want that. They are using the kukis as proxy. Combing operations are being done mostly in meitei dominated areas. They want the conflict to go on.

 

[mist_consecutive]

I can't understand GoI's gameplan at all. But it seems inaction and use of minimal force is intentional, and not because center is "ignoring" Manipur.

 

[crazywithmath]

I can't understand GoI's gameplan at all. But it seems inaction and use of minimal force is intentional, and not because center is "ignoring" Manipur.

View: https://x.com/FrontalForce/status/1833473929757053095

Fucking hell.

Is the hammer coming down finally like Jammu or we going the Bangladesh path ?

So the hammer is not coming down anytime soon, is that it?

 

[Azaad]

So the hammer is not coming down anytime soon, is that it?

GoI's trying to sail in both boats at the same time. What happens in such cases is usually you end up nowhere & what's more you antagonise both parties .

 

[mist_consecutive]

So the hammer is not coming down anytime soon, is that it?

Yeah, no hammer. That was just to quell the protests and some surface-level actions.

GoI's trying to sail in both boats at the same time. What happens in such cases is usually you end up nowhere & what's more you antagonise both parties .

I am sick of this fence-sitter attitute of this current govt. No decision on anything, trying to play on both sides and resultantly get fcuked by both sides.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtu.be/YJ6YGCX7OcI?si=fP-O0m62xj6crrZP

The situation is getting from bad to worse. No clue if the GoI is serious about at least restoring normalcy in Manipur leave aside coming up with a solution. It's either that or GoI has something up its sleeve which we're unaware of as of now & frankly something which I doubt.

So to sum up all our border states from Gujarat all the way up to J&K , from Ladakh all the way upto Arunachal Pradesh , coming down to Nagaland Manipur & Mizoram to now WB , Meghalaya , Assam & Tripura are seeing turmoil , mostly external & in Manipur's case it's a mix of both.

To add to it there's the 0.5 front within spearheaded by Pappu . Dark days are ahead.

 

[sydsnyper]

Yeah, no hammer. That was just to quell the protests and some surface-level actions.



I am sick of this fence-sitter attitute of this current govt. No decision on anything, trying to play on both sides and resultantly get fcuked by both sides

It is frustrating, I know, I feel the same. However the GOI needs to tread cautiously. Any kind of action like mass deportation of kanglus and rohingyas will bring about international scrutiny, increased funding for bad state actors and then we will have a mess no one can fix. Though it is against my every gut instinct, I think it is wise that the government is trying to handle things under the radar.

What they really need to do on a war footing, forget the planes, tanks and subs for a couple of years and work on some form of internal security on the lines of the FBI, NSA and CIA (the latter is only supposed for external intel, but everyone knows they have a hand in internal affairs) to keep tabs on the home grown bad actors which for some reason have become a small scale industry. The second thing is to get people from the north east into the workforce or have major industries & hotels set up shop there. When they have livelihood, there will be fewer chance of them aligning with the militants or the scum from the golden triangle.

 

[Clawreed]

I can't understand GoI's gameplan at all. But it seems inaction and use of minimal force is intentional, and not because center is "ignoring" Manipur.

"Intentional ".Definitely.But to think this strategy or policy is going to work out is delusional. The centre has basically revitalized all valley based underground outfits. But this time , they have even more support from the people due to fact that they now have two enemies- the centre and the kukis.

 

[Clawreed]

View: https://youtu.be/YJ6YGCX7OcI?si=fP-O0m62xj6crrZP

The situation is getting from bad to worse. No clue if the GoI is serious about at least restoring normalcy in Manipur leave aside coming up with a solution. It's either that or GoI has something up its sleeve which we're unaware of as of now & frankly something which I doubt.

So to sum up all our border states from Gujarat all the way up to J&K , from Ladakh all the way upto Arunachal Pradesh , coming down to Nagaland Manipur & Mizoram to now WB , Meghalaya , Assam & Tripura are seeing turmoil , mostly external & in Manipur's case it's a mix of both.

To add to it there's the 0.5 front within spearheaded by Pappu . Dark days are ahead.

We should realize by now that there's nothing up this govts sleeve.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

View: https://youtu.be/JbZk9wQFHw0?si=Gd7eYFv7Ab1BvLcM

 

[Miss Firing]

Amit Shah Rightly Flags Kuki Influx From Myanmar; Now Centre Must Take Steps To Reverse Demographic Change In Manipur​

https://swarajyamag.com/north-east/amit-shah-rightly-flags-kuki-influx-from-myanmar-now-centre-must-take-steps-to-reverse-demographic-change-in-manipur

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This will not be taken lightly by the said Kuki-Chin-Zo groups & the "international community"/local proxies.

Now that HM has said it, what is he going to do about it? (practically)

 

[Miss Firing]

Amit Shah Rightly Flags Kuki Influx From Myanmar; Now Centre Must Take Steps To Reverse Demographic Change In Manipur​

https://swarajyamag.com/north-east/amit-shah-rightly-flags-kuki-influx-from-myanmar-now-centre-must-take-steps-to-reverse-demographic-change-in-manipur

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This will not be taken lightly by the said Kuki-Chin-Zo groups & the "international community"/local proxies.

Now that HM has said it, what is he going to do about it? (practically)

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar

The Security Adviser to the Manipur government today for the first time publicly confirmed they have received an intelligence report that alerted about the entry of "900 Kuki militants" from Myanmar to Manipur.

www.ndtv.com

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar​

The intelligence report says "900 Kuki militants, newly trained in use of drone-based bombs, projectles, missiles and jungle warfare have entered Manipur from Myanmar... grouped in units of 30 members each," sources said​

Plan is to cleanse the valley of Meiteis with "international community" providing narrative support in case of counter action either by India or Meiteis.

Now, what are we going to do about these 900 terrorists?

We could not intercept them as & when they were crossing in.

Since they (these 900 terrorists) are in Manipur hill areas, we can assume that the AR will nab them, yes? (Unless ofc. decision not to nab is political which i doubt because both HM & now this official have admitted to a massive breach)

If not, why is Gen (rtd) Kalita giving AR a clean chit but questioning Manipur police?

 

[Azaad]

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar

The Security Adviser to the Manipur government today for the first time publicly confirmed they have received an intelligence report that alerted about the entry of "900 Kuki militants" from Myanmar to Manipur.

www.ndtv.com

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar​

The intelligence report says "900 Kuki militants, newly trained in use of drone-based bombs, projectles, missiles and jungle warfare have entered Manipur from Myanmar... grouped in units of 30 members each," sources said​

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Plan is to cleanse the valley of Meiteis with "international community" providing narrative support in case of counter action either by India or Meiteis.

Now, what are we going to do about these 900 terrorists?

We could not intercept them as & when they were crossing in.

Since they (these 900 terrorists) are in Manipur hill areas, we can assume that the AR will nab them, yes? (Unless ofc. decision not to nab is political which i doubt because both HM & now this official have admitted to a massive breach)

If not, why is Gen (rtd) Kalita giving AR a clean chit but questioning Manipur police?

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Clearly what we're seeing is paralysis by analysis. The west has played on US insecurities rather well. Modi's avoiding action partially for the fallout it'd have on the larger problems in the NE .

Then there's the China factor to be considered . To make matters worse there're the problems in Myanmar to be considered & if that's not all he's BD to add to his headaches.

The larger problems however remain in how the west would react. I believe by constantly sniping at him thru the media , academia , TTs & the occasional official statements they've successfully managed to keep him in check.

However the problem lies in not checking the cookies & giving them a free hand as for one it agitates the Meiteis & secondly the Nagas are getting restless. Besides the cookies like most groups there tend to over estimate their capabilities only to get whacked later .

However in their enthusiasm , even though they don't constitute a major threat , in the short to medium term they'd manage to severely disrupt the peace there for a long long time.

 

[darkindie]

We should realize by now that there's nothing up this govts sleeve.

Are from Manipur or NE? Don't quote print as source as they give manipulated/half truth info due to their political leanings/bias.

 

[darkindie]

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar

The Security Adviser to the Manipur government today for the first time publicly confirmed they have received an intelligence report that alerted about the entry of "900 Kuki militants" from Myanmar to Manipur.

www.ndtv.com

"100% Correct": Manipur Security Adviser On Intelligence Report "900 Kuki Militants" Entered From Myanmar​

The intelligence report says "900 Kuki militants, newly trained in use of drone-based bombs, projectles, missiles and jungle warfare have entered Manipur from Myanmar... grouped in units of 30 members each," sources said​

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Plan is to cleanse the valley of Meiteis with "international community" providing narrative support in case of counter action either by India or Meiteis.

Now, what are we going to do about these 900 terrorists?

We could not intercept them as & when they were crossing in.

Since they (these 900 terrorists) are in Manipur hill areas, we can assume that the AR will nab them, yes? (Unless ofc. decision not to nab is political which i doubt because both HM & now this official have admitted to a massive breach)

If not, why is Gen (rtd) Kalita giving AR a clean chit but questioning Manipur police?

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[ezsasa]

Clearly what we're seeing is paralysis by analysis. The west has played on US insecurities rather well. Modi's avoiding action partially for the fallout it'd have on the larger problems in the NE .

Then there's the China factor to be considered . To make matters worse there're the problems in Myanmar to be considered & if that's not all he's BD to add to his headaches.

The larger problems however remain in how the west would react. I believe by constantly sniping at him thru the media , academia , TTs & the occasional official statements they've successfully managed to keep him in check.

However the problem lies in not checking the cookies & giving them a free hand as for one it agitates the Meiteis & secondly the Nagas are getting restless. Besides the cookies like most groups there tend to over estimate their capabilities only to get whacked later .

However in their enthusiasm , even though they don't constitute a major threat , in the short to medium term they'd manage to severely disrupt the peace there for a long long time.

this has less to do with the PM of the day, more to do with how home ministry's view on best approach to deal with such scenarios.

if we subtract social media' constant information trickle from current crisis, is the situation and gormint's response any different from the past? i don't think so. home ministry never went full rambo even during other crisis, what they do is gradual area domination (if necessary spread across years) with a goal to re-establish writ of the state, and writ of the state is not just about hard power.

 

[Anants]

i don't think so. home ministry never went full rambo even during other crisis, what they do is gradual area domination (if necessary spread across years) with a goal to re-establish writ of the state, and writ of the state is not just about hard power.

I dont doubt thats the policy govt is going to apply as before. But that policy has not prevented before and people fear that will not prevent now an issue - for which most members here are expressing apprehension: demographic upset. Driving away of Native Tribes, Native Culture, Hindus by the time Govt is able to establishes control. We have seen that in Kashmir. We have seen that in Punjab. And this what people I guess are worried about in Manipur.

But given Ajit Doval sir has NE specialization - we can trust that Govt may have better gripe of the situation than we give credit to them. Lets wait and watch.

 

[Azaad]

this has less to do with the PM of the day, more to do with how home ministry's view on best approach to deal with such scenarios.

if we subtract social media' constant information trickle from current crisis, is the situation and gormint's response any different from the past? i don't think so. home ministry never went full rambo even during other crisis, what they do is gradual area domination (if necessary spread across years) with a goal to re-establish writ of the state, and writ of the state is not just about hard power.

With due respect the current crisis is in a different neighborhood as compared to the past. For one we haven't had a situation on the LAC since the mid 1970s.

The situation in Myanmar was always fraught but the Tatmadaw was mostly in control of it which isn't the case today nor did we have Islamic fundamentalism emanating from BD before this millenium.

What you have now is a lethal cocktail of all these external factors in the present & at the same time.

Moreover as @Anants pointed out area domination in Delhi's perspective hasn't included safeguarding H minorities at all be they the KPs in the valley or the various H minorities in Mizoram who were expelled from there as recently as a decade ago or slightly more than that .

While I don't see the Meiteis following suit for the simple fact that unlike those H minorities the Meiteis are armed & won't go down without a fight the fact remains that Delhi chooses expediency over upholding the law in letter & spirit especially when it comes to DEFENCELESS H minorities in ways that we've yet to see with other religious groups.