Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (50 Viewers)

[Interested]

There is square root of fuck all evidence we even HAVE the R37m , forget about using it.

Zero evidence of Meteors being integrated too.

Where do you get your info from?

Is there a picture of a IAF Rafale carrying a Meteor in the 5 years we have had the jets . I am curious .

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Is there a picture of a IAF Rafale carrying a Meteor in the 5 years we have had the jets . I am curious .

I haven't seen any. There are some pics floating around but they are presumably from France.

I don't believe any of our Rafales were carrying any Meteors.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Not this again. Nothing but mental gymnastics.

‘Rafales, in the plural…absolutely not correct’: India’s defence secretary dismisses Pakistan claim

Indian Defence Secretary RK Singh has denied Pakistan’s claim on shooting down Indian fighter planes. He said that it was ‘absolutely not correct’ that Pakistan shot down more than one Indian Rafale plane in Operation Sindoor.

www.firstpost.com

"Rafales in the plural not correct". A class 5 student will tell you what the statement means, that one Rafale was lost. Language comprehension 101.

Have you heard of Occam's razor?

Why are you so hung up about the fact a Rafale was lost? It's no big deal, losses happen in combat.

We achieved our objectives, showed Pakis that we can hit them wherever and whenever we want. Mission accomplished.

No rafale was lost because no crash site matches that of twin engine plane crash. Duh. I couldn't care less if we lost 10 planes. Allies lost a lot more in their bombing runs on Berlin in ww2.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

How do u think IAF shot down F-16s, JF-17s and Mirage PAF in Air? When they were flying below radar coverage of S-400s??

Think about that

I haven't seen any evidence that we have scored any a2a kills whatsoever during Op Sindoor.

Any assets they lost were parked in their hangars.

Which is why any official enumeration of enemy assets we took put would be great for separating the facts from the sea of bs floating around.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

No rafale was lost because no crash site matches that of twin engine plane crash. Duh. I couldn't care less if we lost 10 planes. Allies lost a lot more in their bombing runs on Berlin in ww2.

Dude i just linked you to a news article quoting an official source verbatim.

Believe whatever bs you want to believe mate, since nothing is going to change your mind. If the defence secretary's verbatim comments cannot convince you, nothing will.

You must have been fun at school debates.

 

[hurrians]

2 F-16s were taken out by Meteor

"If true" explains why french intelligence leaked to CNN

 

[Interested]

"If true" explains why french intelligence leaked to CNN

There was no such report in CNN.

And the Meteor missile is not integrated with IAF Rafale right now . We have never seen a meteor missile on a IAF Rafale in the last 5 years . Not even it parked . We have seen Rafale with MICA,

 

[Tumba]

I haven't seen any evidence that we have scored any a2a kills whatsoever during Op Sindoor.

Any assets they lost were parked in their hangars.

Which is why any official enumeration of enemy assets we took put would be great for separating the facts from the sea of bs floating around.

What u haven’t seen doesn’t mean anything.

What IAF has shared, leaked to media is what that matters.

 

[Interested]

I haven't seen any. There are some pics floating around but they are presumably from France.

I don't believe any of our Rafales were carrying any Meteors.

Ya that's what I figured .

No IAF Rafale has ever carried a Meteor in India . Not for training and not in OP Sindhoor because the missile has not been integrated . It will happen eventually but it hasn't yet .

 

[Yt2211]

 

[hurrians]

There was no such report in CNN.

Padieye

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/31/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-conflict-jets-intl

There was no such report in CNN.

And the Meteor missile is not integrated with IAF Rafale right now . We have never seen a meteor missile on a IAF Rafale in the last 5 years . Not even it parked . We have seen Rafale with MICA,

Your first assertion is false so there is high probability that your second assertion may also be false , you are not aware of something (your first assertion is something that could have been easily checked if you had bothered to try) anyway I leave it at this.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/31/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-conflict-jets-intl

Your first assertion is false so there is high probability that your second assertion may also be false , you are not aware of something (your first assertion is something that could have been easily checked if you had bothered to try) anyway I leave it at this.

I would be happy to be proved wrong if there is ANY credible evidence of meteors being integrated into our Rafales. Rando youtubers or tweets doesn't count as credible, just FYI.

There have been long discussions on this topic. The consensus clearly is thst Meteors are yet to be integrated, which is why we were at a BVR disadvantage against the Jihadi c*nts.

 

[shiphone]

 

[snakeeyes07]

I think we must train less..
Given the declining air frame numbers.. why do we have to train so intensively..

Not as less as Pakis train.. but I am sh*t scared about more crashes. .

No, IAF needs to train hard for a decisive and unquestionable victory over PAF during next clash.

Crashes are part and parcel of the the game. Small cost to pay. You are also extracting a severe cost from PAF too, forcing them to put more flight hours in and do training.

- >75% of their F-16s are more 35 years old
- Even older Mirage-5 fleet
- JF-17 block 1 and 2 fleet rely on RD-33, they need quite a bit of maintenance and spares. Russian spare support is a problem due to Ukraine war.

 

[Interested]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/31/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-conflict-jets-intl

Your first assertion is false so there is high probability that your second assertion may also be false , you are not aware of something (your first assertion is something that could have been easily checked if you had bothered to try) anyway I leave it at this.

The CNN report has nothing about the Meteor missile being used to take down any Pakistani jets .

And no one has been able to show a single photo of a IAF Rafale carrying a Meteor missile in India . The jets have been in India for 5 years and not a single photo when there are photos with all kinds of A2A missiles on all type of jets in air shows , Exercises etc. The simple conclusion is that the missile has not been integrated yet for some reason .

 

[Interested]

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That photo is from France when the plane was being tested before delivery to the IAF.

There is no photo of an Indian Rafale carrying a meteor in India and there is no evidence that France has even sent a single Meteor to India so far.

 

[shiphone]

yeah...yeah....then it seems that you guys are so smart to spend such a big sum on this 'emasculated'/downgraded F3R varient..

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don't waste your time on these nonesense...the others/PAF is already preparing for the next possible air combat after that night.

 

[vidhwanshak]

IAF is fool enough to buy 8B$ white elephants that probably don't have meteor intigrated, and certainly ZERO SEAD/DEAD capability, in the absense of any ARM and Towed decoy.

Please bhai. Don't bring this. There should be dedicated threads for this. Lot was promised. How much is delivered ? Only CAG can confirm l.

basically your brain finds bean counting as your comfort zone, no matter what happens your brain is inclined to finding some fault. perhaps it doesn't matter what reality is, you have chosen to be anxious or unhappy.

nothing wrong as such, to each their own.

even if gormint hadn't taken the political call to target only jihadis during first punch, something else would have happened, these are military conflicts something else always happens, this world is not perfect and $hit happens, your brain would still be unhappy about that something else.

how do we know this, nobody predicted what exactly is going to happen in op sindoor, yet the complaints are post facto. picked a few points that are supposedly not up to satisfaction, and ranting on and on and on about it.

ideally the learning should be, things are getting complicated in the sub-continent and around the world, have to learn to grow a thick skin. but nope, apparently that's not the instinct that kicks in for all.

I have grown thick skin after being around on this forum/DFI for a long time. I think I was more of bean picker back then. I am a spectator now a days, rather than being a participant. But yeah, sometimes I am free enough to let these affect me which might make me sound like a 10 year old child crying for candies in other kids hand instead of counting mine. I don't regret it TBH. why ? Perfect mission execution do exist in modern military history. If me crying over few things attract attention and cause people to question certain decisions and break their stupor of perfect Op Sindoor then I am more than happy to play my part.

To each their own, Cheers

 

[crazywithmath]

You shd be the one reading .

?

It shoudl stop.

Be more specific. What exactly are you referring to? The free food thingy? They are giving out free food because there is massive inventory (way above the required buffer stock) - stuff that would otherwise rot in warehouses. Now, if you want to talk about the supply-demand mismatch or the MSP etc that is an entirely different topic and even there the incumbent is gradually phasing out the old MSP dependent procurement system (which is why the <<<farmers>>> from a specific region is up in arms).

This thing has no bearing on our defense spending. We have had this exact discussion before on this forum.

 

[Hindaviswarajya]

Or my wishful thinking says it is about bifurcation, to give Jammu a complete statehood, and keeping K-police under center. Maybe it turns out to be a nothing burger. As per my assessment restoring J&K statehood is out of the window after caging Baddullah troons into house arrest few days back.

If you listen Ankit Shah(whose most analysis on geo politics is true)he once gave reason why Jammu was not separated . I do not recall now. So if true that is not going to happen. There are some long term goals which will get impacted it seems