Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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maximus777 said:
It is some kind of self-inflicted hijdagiri which no one comprehends!! Decision making has to be clear cut. When we decide to go to war, go all in and inflict maximum casualty. Otherwise pull a Manmohan and send dossiers. Calibration, escalation ladder, lauda lassun does not get you anywhere. Air strikes without SEAD and after informing Pak in advance is suicidal!!! I am sure the true extent of our losses will come out in the future, but had we followed conventional logic, we could have minimized our losses and extracted a heavy price from the enemy. Why was the navy parked in the Arabian sea without a clear goal??? Can you imagine what Pramod's boys would have pulled on the sorry ass Pakis?? How the eff does demonstrating capability without actually putting that capability to good use help with anything?!?! WTF is the end goal?!?!

Dont even get me started on the abrupt ceasefire - I lost my appetite for a few days and couldn't just deal with it. All those lives lost in Pahalgam and later in Jammu in the shelling, are just numbers and mean nothing to our conscience?!?!? Just imagine what any other self-respecting nation would have done, had they been in our shoes?!? :facepalm4:
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What you wrote is how all the major powers including Russia, France, Israel etc think. Israel does not care about escalation ladder, talking to a dozen diplomats etc. The retribution is swift and severe. They did not even listen to the cries of the family members of hostages. They had a mission - root out the Hamas evil once and forever and went for it. They are very clear in their goals - keep taking out leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, etc every day, all day no matter the timeline. They took out sinwar’s son who became Hamas leader recently. It is relentless. UN, ICC all putting pressure on Israel. There is nothing that is stopping them including hospitals. Meanwhile look at how we conduct operations - we tried our level best to avoid pakistani military saar, we were precise saar. I dont think our babus understand that such tactics make us look weak in the eyes of major powers. I think these people are living in their own echo chambers without much understanding of the rest of the world. You cannot keep whining that Paki Army sponsors these terrorists and then also keep saying that we were careful to avoid Porki army assets and even informed them in advance. These kinds of things are making us look like jokers and losing respect everywhere. The world does not care about our “capability”. They want results in a way that an issue ends forever. I do not think brokerats understand how the world works. Excessive cringe proclamations like world is one, voice of the global south etc which no gives a shit about including the global south. New blood is needed in our power corridors. The people in our foreign service from previous gen are just good for chai-biskit-samsa and excessive diplomacy that no one wants. This tour for example, why are we going on a tour to various countries? Dont these fools know that this will be looked upon as an act of weakness and will hyphenate us with randistan? The way we take decisions is crazy and no one understands it. There seems to be a bunch of brokerats sitting inside a room and coming up with these unworkable ideas.
 
Muzh said:
Bangladesh is not a landlocked nation. Its southern border is on the Bay of Bengal, a part of the Indian Ocean, giving it access to the sea.
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It means landlocked when 80% of the border resides with India.
Bangladesh has a non existent navy & an airforce. That sea connectivity will serve only a little.
 
Oldworld said:
Turkish goals are multiple here

  1. Prove to Pakistan and other countries in the muslim world in the heat of the moment Turkey will be a reliable supplier.
  2. Make extra bucks by fleecing Pakistanis. Fact Songar costs almost same as Polish warmate is atrociously greedy.
  3. Try Turkish drones in a much sophisticated AD environment like India and see the results.
  4. As you mentioned market for Turkish drones.

Goal 4 failed miserably as we do not see a single Turkish drone footage made public. Ironically, this inturn turned into a marketing opportunity for Indian AD platforms.
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Many yiha drones crashed inside pakistan . We might have destroyed atleast 300 songar . Out of fear of being intercepted they did nt send their akinci drone . There are some reports of tb 2 being intercepted . In one of their base there are reports of many drones being destroyed .
 
Doreamon said:
Many yiha drones crashed inside pakistan . We might have destroyed atleast 300 songar . Out of fear of being intercepted they did nt send their akinci drone . There are some reports of tb 2 being intercepted . In one of their base there are reports of many drones being destroyed .
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Makes sense

Didn't really see much action by some of the drones Pakistanis had
 
indrajit said:
Not all Su30 MKI's can carry BrahMos, only a handful. We need more.
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Wait for brahmos ng next year . It ll be integrated to tejas , rafale , sukhoi and upcoming tejas mk2 . Sukhoi will carry multiple brahmos ng . It ll be next leap forward in air to ground operation of India .
 
Brimstone said:
Balochistan and Sindh front activated simultaneously. Unknown gunman activity in Sindh. Afghan interior minister in India.

PTI and PTM will be make headlines soon. Munir and the army must be kept busy in the internal fronts.

My guess, PAF will add offensive capabilities silently (offensive because they have to show their awaam they they can do sem2sem) and ISI will target our dams.
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Highly unlikely ISI will target dams. First off, blowing up a dam that is tens of thousands of tonnes of material- I'd a capacity possessed only by conventional military. Not non state actors or intelligence services.

Secondly, blowing up a dam kills tens of thousands in floodwash, if not millions. It gives us all the legitimacy we need to nuke them.
iNorthernerOn9 said:
People who consistently bring up Kangladesh on this thread or other with reference to the perceived increase in their military might and as a future threat... may have never seen the actual map of Kangladesh... this👇 is map of Kangladesh... 100s of rivers and "most" of them don't have concrete bridges(necessary for heavy vehicular movement)... it means bangladeshi military has to follow a snakes & ladders pattern of movement to reach their frontiers.

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To defeat Bangladesh we won't even need to target their military assets... just bomb 15-20 main bridges and all of the kanglu grand plans will come to a grinding halt.
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10-15 ?? Buddy there is only ONE bridge that crosses Brahmaputra in Bangladesh. I don't think there's a single bridge that crosses the Ganga in Bangladesh.
As I said before, this is the prime reason why in entire history of India, the pal empire is the only Bengali power in history and that too they were never dominant ( always in fight for 2nd place after rashtrakutas, with the pratiharas) - the Bengal emperors vassal would have to cross 50 rivers to get to him.
Azaad said:

View: https://twitter.com/China_Fact/status/1924013646314864794?s=19

Nothing to do with the Indo Pak conflict yet everything to do with the forthcoming Indo China conflict.
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You can fly as high as you wish, hell you can be a satellite with missiles on it, but it's missiles still have to enter the engagement envelope of the ADS.
So I dont see wtf this scaremongering is about.
 
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