Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Check out the recent drone attack by Ukraine deep into Russia today.


View: https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1929170955663737093


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If Ukrainians are breaching Russian air defenses, what do you think we can do? We need cost effective deadly drones to keep Porki filth on their toes. Porkis cannot intercept every drone from India. Doing so also reveals their positions where they have placed their air defense systems. We need to explore this kind of low intensity war. For us it will be low intensity for them it will be high intensity. They will be forced to buy expensive air defense systems again and again.

NOTE: These drones were smuggled in a truck and parked outside of the target airfield. But since Porkistan depth is less, we don't have to do this and can attack within our borders.

I’ve heard that Ukraine has destroyed some of Russia’s strategic nuclear bombers. However, it’s not accurate to compare Ukraine with Pakistan—Ukraine’s defense budget is around $56 billion, while Pakistan’s is only about $8 billion. The scale and resources of their militaries are vastly different.
 
There’s no denying that Chinese maal is inferior in quality—that’s a widely recognized fact around the world. However, that doesn’t mean India should take its security lightly or avoid preparing for a two-front war. Regardless of the quality of Chinese maal, India must stay fully prepared and vigilant.

Its always safer and better to not underestimate your enemy and also over estimate your strengths .. Chinese maal however inferior it is they have very huge domestic military industrial complex which can over whelm us with the quantity .. they can throw 1000 CMs if they decided we will be not even in position to fire so many and neither will have the capacity in war to replenish in such a quick time ..

Its okay we mocking Pakis as inferior and we can play around them kind of confidence lets not have the same kind of false bravado with chinese and ensure we are better equipped and well prepared to face them when the whistle blows
 
Its always safer and better to not underestimate your enemy and also over estimate your strengths .. Chinese maal however inferior it is they have very huge domestic military industrial complex which can over whelm us with the quantity .. they can throw 1000 CMs if they decided we will be not even in position to fire so many and neither will have the capacity in war to replenish in such a quick time ..

Its okay we mocking Pakis as inferior and we can play around them kind of confidence lets not have the same kind of false bravado with chinese and ensure we are better equipped and well prepared to face them when the whistle blows
And their latest equipment is likely to far more advanced than our own, not inferior. To underestimate them is a mistake.
 
I don't know whether it's right to post here but what is this....
Chinese are investing in India
 

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You think US defence equipment doesn't have Chinese components?

Su57 might be crap but it will certainly be able to handle J20. That's all we need while we develop AMCA and our own damn engine.

I don't think drones alone will cut it while AMCA comes online and we don't have any other alternative.
Handle j20 ? Can you tell me how does an allegedly invisible plane handle another allegedly invisible plane ? Pull a maverick from original top gun, fly in inverted formation and give the pilot the finger?!

All those who are saying we need stealth jets to handle stealth jets are smoking something very very strong. No stealth jet can detect a stealth jet. Duh.
 
Handle j20 ? Can you tell me how does an allegedly invisible plane handle another allegedly invisible plane ? Pull a maverick from original top gun, fly in inverted formation and give the pilot the finger?!

All those who are saying we need stealth jets to handle stealth jets are smoking something very very strong. No stealth jet can detect a stealth jet. Duh.
The Su-57 is not really a stealth jet. Stealth jets are VLO aircraft. The Su-57 is an LO aircraft. It's only slightly more stealthy than the Rafale.
 
Handle j20 ? Can you tell me how does an allegedly invisible plane handle another allegedly invisible plane ? Pull a maverick from original top gun, fly in inverted formation and give the pilot the finger?!

All those who are saying we need stealth jets to handle stealth jets are smoking something very very strong. No stealth jet can detect a stealth jet. Duh.

Nothing is invisible. It's just hard to detect.

Handling jets means being able to keep up with outmaneuver the enemy jet.
 
Don't think there would be news of this nature on the net. At the most what you'd probably get is news of an Air Defence exercise around Feb / March in those areas as specified in the tweet.

Beyond that news of whether these ADS was withdrawn or retained on station you'd not find on the net.
ISPR has absolute control over what its media speaks .. AD exercise if planned as such mentioned with an intention to execute a terror attack in pahalgam would have surely kept secret from the eyes of their own Quam consumption ..

Technically we should have bombed their SSG HQ its the SSG pigs who are operating inside our territory why are we even calling them terrorist they are porki army personnel .. why should we not hit their military targets at first place instead of focusing on these LET type scum cannon fodder

The pain will only be felt if we hit their uniformed class and inflict damage .. Rest is nothing for them they will claim no loss no pain
 
If Ukraine is capable of targeting Russia’s nuclear-capable bombers, then India should also be prepared to target Pakistan’s nuclear infrastructure in the event of a full-scale war. This includes neutralizing Pakistan’s nuclear command and control centers, missile depots, airbases, and underground bunkers to eliminate any nuclear threat decisively.
 
Simple questions i saw ANI video about BSF officer saying they are detecting terror launch pads getting filled up now across the border ? are we going to bomb them using arty or what ever or will wait only till they come close to our border and attempt infiltration or worse once they enter into our side and cause a damage , Paki s are not keeping those terrorist in launch pads 5 kms near our border to target TTP or Baloch rebels they are in those pads exclusively to attack india ..

The real answer needed how we are going to take it forward in dealing with this terrorist ..
Last I checked Sindoor is not over which means we can attack deep inside Pakistan if required . But question is do Modi has balls of steel or not
 
Folks, a few things to be wary of.

Ukraine's strikes on Russia now can militarily warrant the use of nuclear warheads. At least on paper, strategically speaking, a nuclear exchange is a very logical retaliation. And tbh, from what I can see, that is exactly what the West seems to want. NATO is an incredibly expeditionary wolf hiding in sheep's clothing. This will go either way from here on:

1st possibility: the US and the West manage to force Putin into a ceasefire on terms that unilaterally favour Ukraine, dealing a massive blow to Putin, almost guaranteeing a change in regime through internal unrest in Russia.

2nd possibility: Putin escalates to small-scale nuclear payloads on Ukrainian strategic locations. NATO and the US get to test their BMD systems and strategic nukes and then essentially drag Russia through the mud, Gutenberg style, leaving Russia no longer a superpower, potentially broken up even more, or run by a puppet "democracy". This might sound crazy, but do not for a second think that it's too improbable. Trump is out on a mission to MAGA, AND he proclaims himself to be the saviour of peace. For him, or for that matter, anyone in NATO, a few Ukrainians killed and a few generations ruined from nuclear strikes, is a very small price to pay in a country that has a history of nuclear fallout. Moreover, Ukrainians or other central asians are essentially a propaganda tool for the West, like the Islamist jihadis. In other words, Ukrainians ko shaheed bana ke West khud ghazi banne ke mood mein hai. After they're done with them, they'll be treated like low-life commie-reject brothel-bouncers by the rest of Europe.

You'll notice that both of the above possibilities are extremes. I believe that after all this time, the War is now stuck in a stalemate where any kind of escalation or de-escalation that isn't either of the above will eventually lead to one or the other. Because Zelensky is a rabid dog, and Putin will go down fighting, but won't give in to terms that unilaterally favour Ukraine. The only actual solution to this conflict is to take out either of them.

Now, my purpose in writing all this is to explore India's options in this whole scenario.

From my perspective, the US is digging its own grave economically, and Russia is doing the same militarily. The last 5 years and now Trump have confirmed a few things for me. The primary of which is, this multipolarity in world affairs today is just a transitional period.

I'll refrain from predicting what the eventual new world order will look like, but a few things to keep in mind.

The US economy is on the brink of possibly the worst crash. I'm shitting my pants thinking about it but it's a fact. If the Trump admin doesn't fix the tax brackets and reduce expenditure but instead increases the national debt threshold again, then combine that with the tariff jumla, the US is looking at what can be called de-industrialisation. Now that I think of it, perfect reason for the US to let Russia do something crazy so that the market takes a temporary hit while US investors make a crap ton of money off of the defence industrial complex and then later fix the markets using the spoils of War.

Russia's military campaign into Ukraine is essentially choked now. Putin miscalculated the initial blitzkrieg, and now he's finding it hard to sustain not only the military but also his economy. He isn't making any money from his military exports cause he can't sell much at the moment. His primary trading partners, the EU, are buying maybe 20% of what they used to. He's having to sell resources to China for pennies on the dollar, and Xi is trying to outrank Russia as the ultimate Red state. His internal politics is being held together simply by hopes and dreams. So his only options are to give in or see this War to its logical end. Either way, Russia will not come out of this stronger. Rather, they'll be set back at least a decade.

This is a very tense geopolitical climate, but for India, this can be an amazing opportunity. A lot is being done right at the moment, with the independent trading deals with companies. This essentially provides an all-weather raincoat to India's foreign economic interests. With this, India should start to campaign aggressively now more than ever to get into the UNSC permanent members table, OR set up a parallel where India holds disproportionate power.

Additionally, India needs to seriously look elsewhere for military tech. Depending on Russia is suicidal right now because Russia is NOT in a state to effectively help with the supply, manufacturing of any military equipment. AND, India has prior experience with Russian "Full tech transfer" through the Su-30 program. Our best bet right now for fighter engine tech would be France. If need be just buy the rights to engine for whatever obscene amount Safran wants and then mass produce that shit in India. Also, join the 6th gen fighter program of the EU with the sole intention of gaining expertise in the design phase, then back out during production like France did with the Eurofighter Typhoon. Roll out Tejas Mk 1As asap and then fast-track the AMCA. If the AMCA induction into the IAF can be preponed by 2-3 years, then India can have a near 6th Gen Mk 2 ready by 2040.

In terms of trade and economy, I think we're doing exactly what is needed. We're too big a market that can afford anything the world has to sell. And, we are the largest suppliers of many essential goods and resources. This is a kind of permanent influence rather than an artificial one created by the likes of the US and China on world trade.

Finally, India needs to recognize that our primary and ONLY long-term competitors are China on every single front. We need to engage with them accordingly.
 
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Losing a Rafale is an indigestible idea to some people here. Doesn't feel like a fair trade, giving pakis time to breath after the fact. Losing a single jet without pilot casualties should be fucking irrelevant considering the success of this OP.
Again this is narrative issue R is more discussed because the opposition wanted to win election on this in 2019 and they couldn't since then they have been mocking that .. What about the Su and Mi are those jets any less worth if its lost and we are not worried about it . I would be more worried about Su as it is the main and bulk of our air force which is going to get used much much more than R .. R cant cover entire subcontinent with just 36 numbers . The focus should be seriously on closing the technical GAPs which are glaring in front of our eyes even before those Ops ..AEW and MRTT and also BVR missiles and AESA all needs urgent focus on war footing

and again when you are in urgent mode you get pushed into import lobby hands which is another pain in our ass

Which is why you don't keep on doing never ending evaluation programs ..IAF tanker purchase plan is going on since 2006 ..bloody fucking 20 years now and we couldn't even get a single tanker added to our fleet and we are thinking about leasing and running stuff

A country which is world's 4th largest economy , A country which has been forced into 5 fucking wars and have two great and grave dangers next to its border is looking for leasing refueller shows what kind of strategic vision thinking our top echelons have ..

Piece meal orders need to end a mission mode needs to be launched to bring both public private and research institutes get crucial things done

And most fucking important increase the allocation of funds and more important release them on time

Not like this GE fiasco we are facing with 404 not getting delivered because we are busy doing price negotiations and HAL built jets and are waiting in hangar without a bloody engine to power them ..
 
If Ukraine is capable of targeting Russia’s nuclear-capable bombers, then India should also be prepared to target Pakistan’s nuclear infrastructure in the event of a full-scale war. This includes neutralizing Pakistan’s nuclear command and control centers, missile depots, airbases, and underground bunkers to eliminate any nuclear threat decisively.

We did.........wasn't even a full-scale war. Officially, we didn't. But I mean.......Kirana Hills mein woh volcanic eruption toh tha nahi.
 
Why should care about losing a rafale? One day you had to lose that bird in a war. Itna hi dar hai to airbase mein saja ke rakhne k liye thodi kharida hai?

If IAF would think along your line of thought they would stop even using some of those expensive jets. Asset losses are normal in any conflict..Just deal with it.
There was never an issue about loosing R or any jet ,F-35 crashed in Japan into sea just on a training flight few months ago , Top of the line fighter jet just vanishing into sea on a normal routine flight , happens are the japs really worried about using F-35 ?? latest i read they are planning to order more F-35 as their own 5th Gen program is getting delayed further .

i think we lost close to 6 jets to crashes in last few years in routine sorties.. what should worry us is the dwindling aircraft numbers .. 36 rafale can do jack shit to us in a 2 front war .. why is the IAF and govt dragging its ass in completing the entire MRCA order which itself was fucking purchase plan of 2003-04 days .. 21 years down we just added 36 aircraft's of the desired 100 + . GoI should stop this joke of running never ending MRCA MRFA buying trial exercise and simply go for more orders of Rafale or any other jet which IAF should say they are confident to use fo next 15-20 years ..
 
I'm growing more and more convinced that gaylon musk was at least partially correct when he called manned fighters obsolete

Maybe they aren't obsolete but they are definitely as important as before

Especially in Indian situation where threats are so close to border
 
The amount of outrage against CDS by our own countrymen including Social media is outrageous.

If CDS said a word Tactical mistake - Its not blunder. Its what confident Armies do.



What was the Tactical disadvantage CDS is talking about on 6-7 MAY ??. No body knows until more details come out.

Even if one detail was missing in the picture the correction was done in 24 Hours. A single launcher of a SAM battery could have been missed by our initial ELNIT ops or SAT-INTEL might have not picked up - no one knows. Whatever Tactical shortcoming was there was rectified.

This that HQ-9 battery in Lahore naval war college was the one which was missed as per my sources and it was the one which was targeted with Harpy next day ..People don't understand how an Extra SAM battery alone screw up your entire battle plans if it was not calculated in your assessment . those extra 3 missiles fired on jet can be absolute disaster irrespective of how advanced the jet is there is always a certain limitations to its system capability..
 
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