Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (124 Viewers)

[Cereal Killer]

I will believe it when they can make a crystal turbine blade . Until then it’s all speculation We also sent a probe to mars and have no 5th generation plane. Seems going to mars is easier than making a 5th gen fighter???

Sending probe to Mars and landing a rover on Mars in first attempt is frankly a super impressive feat.

I am unsure when will ISRO send its rover maybe a decade later going by timeline... But That's also probably when we get our own jet engine (a stretch at this moment tbh) & a working indigenous 5th gen jet (hopefully).
Point was A 5th gen Chinese jet is as much as reality as a Tejas Mk1 fighter for us. Both have limited to no combat experience or kills but they do exist.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Sending probe to Mars and landing a rover on Mars along with a Probe in a first attempt is frankly a super impressive feat.

I am unsure when will ISRO send its rover maybe a decade later going by timeline... But That's also probably when we get our own jet engine (a stretch at this moment tbh) & a working indigenous 5th gen jet (hopefully).
Point was A 5th gen Chinese jet is as much as reality as a Tejas Mk1 fighter for us. Both have limited to no combat experience or kills but they do exist.

When you have 2 big countries like India and China with huge economies they always persist and get what they want. So I would not rule out either getting it even sooner than 10 years ?

 

[Cereal Killer]

When you have 2 big countries like India and China with huge economies they always persist and get what they want. So I would not rule out either getting it even sooner than 10 years ?

AMCA is not coming sooner. I think everyone knows that at this moment. More important as of now is to have our own jet engine. It's difficult but Doable if we seriously pump some resources there.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

AMCA is not coming sooner. I think everyone knows that at this moment. More important as of now is to have our own jet engine. It's difficult but Doable if we seriously pump some resources there.

we have done a lot of deals in the past that came with promises of TOT , nothing has materialized with
regards to this.

 

[Doreamon]

Paki 5th generation warrior jerking room to control narrative . I bet they were displaying comments in this forum on that big screen


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianDefense/s/c39JuU8bs1

 

[silentassassin265]

Which manufacturing unit are you planning to setup and where. If not then Why?

No manufacturing unit is present currently.
It is yet to enter manufacturing stage

 

[randombully]

in one or twos (or even small salvos) is not unstoppable. In Pakistani social media videos of IAF strikes, there were 2-3 interceptions (Jacobabad and Rafique). Not sure if these were , Scalp or ROCKS. But these were last second interceptions, so they got really lucky with these ones.

But if strikes with are employed sophistically, bigger salvos coinciding with loitering munitions and SEAD/DEAD strikes with Rudram 2 & 3, then they are unstoppable.

IAF has strategic depth, abundance of alternate airfields and airports in depth to disperse, PAF and even PLAAF (in Tibet only due to relatively less number of airfields) are vulnerable to such strikes.

This bad boy sure is "unstoppable tho".( especially against pakistan).

 

[randombully]

There are reports that houtis may have hit an Israeli airport where THAAD and arrow were defending ( unconfirmed).

Yemeni Missile Hits Near Ben Gurion Airport: Israel Reports Injuries and Defense System Failure

ballistic missile launched by Yemen’s Houthis struck near Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv, injuring eigh.. Israeli-American air defense systems

www.watanserb.com

They hit just behind the airport.
This was not a lucky, but a well calculated one.
Houtis have a tactical ballistic missile with "marv" warhead.( most likely gifted from Iran).

Basically they fired dozens of missiles before this one, each one with different trajectory of missile and flight profile of Marv, to find the interception envelop where there are higher chances of evading thaad, and for this case the higher chances came true



Similarly how thaad as it continues to be used to intercept kinzhal missile, is getting better than intercepting kinzhal like missile, each interception or failure is a valuable data that can be used to refine the system software to make it more effective.

 

[indrajit]

Regardless I think tremendous pressure will be brought on by the west to negotiate with Paxtan & it need not necessarily be from the Trump administration but from the busybodies in the EU with these TTs buzzing around like flies.

Might have worked 15 years ago, not so likely now. They couldn't get India to condemn Russia, how are going to get India to talk to Pakistan? Sure, there is always some pressure but I doubt it will be too much to handle. If they can't get Pakistan to stop supporting terrorists in the kind of economic condition they are in, how are they going to succeed with India?

 

[chnvipgz]

View: https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1932633782772777223?t=trzf3CqbtnE0fzPdoIDVKQ&s=19

 

[Nicky]

Chinese 5th generation means 2-3 rd generation in real warplanes anything China claims is total BS . Why did they buy s-400 if hq9 was so great???

If say, better to assume it's late 3rd or 4th gen at best. I have read many articles questioning it's stealth capabilities and with modern radars I doubt it will be invisible. Even F22 can be detect, though much closer.

When has China produced anything mission critical that has demonstrated capabilities? The ones we saw in Porki conflict are clearly sub-par.

While I agree we should not understand them, at the same time we don't need to overestimate them and spend unnecessarily.

If Rafael is good enough for J20 and they allow us to integrate with our weapons, I feel that is the best way forward till we get AMCA. If not, we should consider Su57 as stopgap.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

That's hoping for the sake of hoping. Chinese can send Friggin rovers to Mars in its only first attempt and we are supposed to believe they don't have a functional 5th gen jet?
That's Paxtan level delusion sorry to say

Two different tech problems. A jet has to be a lot more rugged and perform all the time. Not an easy thing.

 

[A Chauhan]

AMCA is not coming sooner. I think everyone knows that at this moment. More important as of now is to have our own jet engine. It's difficult but Doable if we seriously pump some resources there.

AMCA can come sooner, technology is not problem here but funding and govt attitude is. If you feed peanuts to the developmental agencies then you get peanuts in return.

 

[Ajatshatru]

AMCA can come sooner, technology is not problem here but funding and govt attitude is. If you feed peanuts to the developmental agencies then you get peanuts in return.

AMCA will likely arrive before the fighter jets to be procured under MRFA. In fact, once the Tejas Mk2 enters production in 2028, need for MRFA itself becomes questionable. The only real challenge ahead is developing an indigenous fighter jet engine

 

[Psacha123]

View: https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1932674371870666886?s=46

 

[Psacha123]

Deleted?

Another handle reporting the footage.


View: https://x.com/osintupdates/status/1932678639771873541?s=46


View: https://x.com/defencecore/status/1932506688961011793?s=46

 

[A Chauhan]

AMCA will likely arrive before the fighter jets to be procured under MRFA. In fact, once the Tejas Mk2 enters production in 2028, need for MRFA itself becomes questionable. The only real challenge ahead is developing an indigenous fighter jet engine

True, Tejas Mk2 itself is a multirole fighter aircraft with lower-medium weight category. Plus being indigenous is a boon. In the last 20 years the biggest hurdle in India's self reliance and defence capabilities is the same Kaveri engine problem. I don't know why the govt didn't fund it on war footing levels. They fed peanuts and are eating peanuts.

 

[snakeeyes07]

This bad boy sure is "unstoppable tho".( especially against pakistan).

Especially the RDPS payload for PAF airfields will be devastating.

And for PLA & PLAAF:

 

[Tumba]

Especially the RDPS payload for PAF airfields will be devastating.

And for PLA & PLAAF:
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Our own Iskandar probably more dangerous… we need this in thousands for chinis

 

[snakeeyes07]

Will be used for plan too, anti ship varient is entirely possible, and by sources already in works

So it will be more akin to DF-21D/DF-26 in it's flight profile vs LRASHM?