Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (116 Viewers)

[indrajit]

Munir has proved that he's Zia part 2.Religiosity apart, he has proved to be quite canny in dealing with the Americans. The guy may look and talk like a fool and we may make fun of him being a failed marshal etc but this guy has outwitted both Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif and forced India to join a conflict with the sole intention of increasing his popularity. No Pakistani General who didn't hold a President's post has ever managed a meeting with an American President. On his own, a private meeting with no political input. Extraordinary stuff.

Whatever is said and whatever be the military thrashing the Pakistanis received, the Pakistanis and Munir are in a better position post Op.Sindoor than they were before. Whatever be the reason, whether Iran, minerals or crypto. We shouldn't underestimate either Munir or Pakistan at this stage.

 

[indrajit]

I don't want to comment any more on that what i quoted .. I will stick my neck out again and say we were not in mood to escalate at all after 9th . We were given exit option for porki pigs too to have face saver exit but it was the asset loss and the pressure from forces to give a full free hand for one night operation led to do those base attacks and them immediately curtailed by the baboons ..i am still pointing my fingers to the leadership and not towards our forces and their determination and commitment . White flag was shown by our side first .

I'm of the opinion that escalation beyond a point was not in our interest. Was a wise decision to allow for a cessation of hostilities on the 10th. Anyone can start a war, not very easy to end it.

 

[hurrians]

Pahalgam Breakthrough: NIA Confirms Killers Pak Nationals, Lashkar Members

2 Arrested For Sheltering Pakistani Terrorists Who Carried Out Pahalgam Attack

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[akk]

Funny things going on. NC, AAP and SAD fighting over who would get chenab and indus waters.
Amit bhai ensuring that nobody can reinstate IWT even if there is pressure from orangeutan.
Quite clearly, we are moving towards war.
Given both orangeotan and she'sjumping are about to arm pakistan to the teeth, better happen sooner rather than later!

 

[akk]

I think the next step will be to recognise Balochistan and let a govt in exile start to function.

 

[akk]

I am also perplexed by orangeotan behaviour. Clearly lies to the brink, openly, dramatically! Is he really supporting pakistan or making a fool of them?
I have firmly believed that 370 was not possible without his support.
And BJP couldn't achieve much because he was not there (even farm laws were reversed).
And we could do wakf without much resistance, even without majority.
Is he fooling pak? Is this all a tactical understanding between modi and orangeotan? There are quite a few (apparent) Indian supporters around him, to let the reverse happen.
Is india and US merely playing bad cop good cop?

 

[shade2]

Hey @Captscooby what did you mean by this?
Because everything now points to Pakistan being the one running for a ceasefire.
Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote here.

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I'm not trying to be combative here but you can't simply throw out these kind of snippets without any proof, that too in face of proof of the exact opposite.

No, actually, I apologize for doubting you. I didn't realize you are the same person from DFI. My bad.

Saar, put him on ignore list, too much rudali and bhosdapilling.

All the aforementioned is backed up by literal "trust me bro" "sutro se pata chala hai" bullshit where he says he has talked with xyz navy, airforce, baboon guy and got this info.

Also from old DFI i don't remember him being like this, guy has become a blackpill dispenser now

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[redpanda]

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Dialogue is fine. They need to really up the game when it comes diplomacy. First they should increase the number of MEA staffs. It severely understaffed. Look at the Chinese how many folks they have in their embassies. Also they do everything to prop up lobbies. I know we also have been building think tanks in both Europe and US under Modi. But we need to massively improve upon that.

 

[Simon Riley]

I don't want to comment any more on that what i quoted .. I will stick my neck out again and say we were not in mood to escalate at all after 9th . We were given exit option for porki pigs too to have face saver exit but it was the asset loss and the pressure from forces to give a full free hand for one night operation led to do those base attacks and them immediately curtailed by the baboons ..i am still pointing my fingers to the leadership and not towards our forces and their determination and commitment . White flag was shown by our side first .

willing to have peace and showing white flag are two different things, after effective sead ops and missile strikes on important paf bases india had the upperhand. i personally think we stopped due to this iran issue and things will start again.

 

[neelaslayer]

Cuck skit video propaganda of china showing chinese women being trapped after marrying indian origin men as chinese women are marrying foreigners.


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[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Found a ethnicity map of Kashmir on map porn channel. Very interesting how the Gujjer/Bakarwal Sunni Muslims (green) are sandwiched between Pakistani occupied kashmir sunnis and indian kashmir valley sunnis (maroon color). Clearly tells us that we need to move a lot more shia qnd balti muslims into kashmir valley to reduce the sunni filth whose local support was the key for yhe barbaric Pahalgam attacks. Invite gujjar muslims from PoK (limegreen) and bulk up their numbers. Wakhi muslims who are Ismailis must be encouraged to switch allegiance to our side - these reside in wakhan corridor and shaksgam valley (ceded to China by porkis). We must make the sunnis a minority in the valley. Wakhi Ismailis form the iran-afghan type muslim belt and like kargil shias should be sympathetic to our causes.Encouragement to change over to moderate shia or ismaili or Bora muslims with promise of greater government rewards must be encouraged. I think we have no option now but to play the demographic card as the local sunni OGWs continue to support porki terrorists. Looks like we now know who the Pahalgam terrorists were. Hope they face justice soon after intense interrogation with evidence widely shared with our allies.
End game = reduce sunni islam in kashmir valley massively including in government jobs and police. Repopulate with other progressive muslims especially Ismailis, Balti Shias and Gujjar-bakerwals. Then we can easily have Dogras spread out among these more favorable Islamic sects.

 

[maximus777]

View: https://x.com/manishindiatv/status/1936654454503112725?t=9UmU4TMAzli7kEe9nBxMBg&s=19

As if locals harboring peaceful lund fakirs was ever in doubt!! Not sure what the big revelation is, unless we found neutralized both the hosts and the guests.

 

[Hindaviswarajya]

No not CIA. It had something to do with 100 Paki Uniformed Men in Jaffar Express who were 72horrified. Pehlgam was Complete planning of ISI with help of China. Infiltration was already done in Peak winter, and Reccee was done in Feb+March after Train Hijack incident. Sat intel provided by chinese and encrypted satcom devices with custom made Huawei devices all imported from China. Intel sharing was done by CIA of incoming attack in march to Indian agencies. China wanted India to get involved in long conflict.
CIA thought conflict would be limited to POJ and POK. But when IAF started hitting Jacocabad, Sukur and especially RYK then US administration got worried as those 3 were part of Iran Plan. US admin has told Indian channels to tell Indian Intel to reduce the footprint in Baloch land. This is what is the sore point of Indian and US diplomacy. No assurance of Indian concerns. Purely Strategic and Business interest of US while India feels its interest are getting negated. This is a game of Tug of War being played in Disputed region of Balochistan between India, CHINA and US. India has strategic interests. China has business interests. US has both. And Pakis are Whores who anyone can fuck at their will.
Regards. Jai Hind

CIA is part of US deep state and Chinese CCP is aligned with them. So it can be still both wanted long war as both are enemies.

 

[ezsasa]

Dialogue is fine. They need to really up the game when it comes diplomacy. First they should increase the number of MEA staffs. It severely understaffed. Look at the Chinese how many folks they have in their embassies. Also they do everything to prop up lobbies. I know we also have been building think tanks in both Europe and US under Modi. But we need to massively improve upon that.

china has a budget of about 8 billion $ for their foreign ministry, and India about 2.4 billion $. there will be difference in capacities.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

The second point is deeply connected to first point. The thought process of babooz is if we become the aggressor, then they will sanksun us. That is why you saw the whole drama by MEA during this operation. Tbh there is some truth to their fear but they underestimate the threshold.

Sanksuns can be countered by liberating our economy more. Those greedy mofos in wall street will break the legs of US govt. to lift those sanctions up.
So, more than the fear of sanksuns the babooz fear they will be forced to reform. Most of the baboos actually hate post 1991 Indian economy.

 

[ezsasa]

The second point is deeply connected to first point. The thought process of babooz is if we become the aggressor, then they will sanksun us. That is why you saw the whole drama by MEA during this operation. Tbh there is some truth to their fear but they underestimate the threshold.

this assumption made sense during congi and coalition gormints, because they hardly put emphasis on developing hard power, were prone to idealistic flourishes in foreign policy like sacrificing relationship with israel for "minority" vote bank or sacrificing relationship with U.S because a female dalit IFS officer got treated badly in newyork . hard power consists of both military and economic capability, which we can see work is under progress on both fronts.

let's look at it from real-politik terms. these days, both piyush goyal and jai shankar is doing multiple trips to europe for FTA negotiations, meeting with their counter parts. it cannot be the case that piyush goyal in his meeting with his counterpart is talking about reliable supply chains and jai shankar in his meeting with this counter part is talking "we will bomb the $hit out of pakiland pre-emptively", the gormint these two are talking to are not idiots, they have their own constituency to serve and interests to protect. in realistic terms, if the situation calls of pre-emptive military strikes as a policy, there will be implications in other aspects of hard power because time and resources will have to be diverted to manage the fallout.

usually i presume folks who make statements like "bomb the $hit out of pakistan" are usually folks who are too young or adults who are not monetarily invested in India growth story or adults who are invested but haven't figured out that there will be a direct impact on their investments when certain aggressive strategic decisions are taken.

if this is not convincing enough, we can just look at paki strategic blunders over the decades, and how hard it is to recover from bad strategic choices made in the past. even today they have a pathway to steady their rocking ship, but they can't even if they want to, hence always between one crisis to the next every few years.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

I am also perplexed by orangeotan behaviour. Clearly lies to the brink, openly, dramatically! Is he really supporting pakistan or making a fool of them?
I have firmly believed that 370 was not possible without his support.
And BJP couldn't achieve much because he was not there (even farm laws were reversed).
And we could do wakf without much resistance, even without majority.
Is he fooling pak? Is this all a tactical understanding between modi and orangeotan? There are quite a few (apparent) Indian supporters around him, to let the reverse happen.
Is india and US merely playing bad cop good cop?

India actually needed only one thing from a US President. It is for him to ease the pressure of USAID and NGOs. Mr. Trump has been good on this regard as against Biden. So, If we look from internal security perspective he has been beneficial to us. His crusade against woke ecosystem have been in this regard beneficial to us as now, new Satrangi revolutions are not getting funded as deeply as in past.
On external security perspective, I think he is being much more assertive and impatient. He wants us to open the market more and integrate with US even more. He is forcing our hand by pampering our hostile neighbors. But i don't find it unusual. Both piggie lands have strategic and military value for them. So, they will ofcourse use them to build leverage on us. Biden was already doing it. So nothing new in this side also.
Now, there is another aspect. Him pressuring us on trade deal is actually good for us. It will kick the babus to give up some regulatory power. It will benefit us whole. Him being coercive will force us to invest in our domestic firms. So, All in all it benefits us.

Now, Ofcourse his global antics are no doubt harmful to us too. But they are harmful to other also.

 

[Tumba]

meanwhile @BON PLAN bhai from Parisnagar having fun on inbred forum

 

[infinitedivine7]

how many loans are they gonna take to buy this

like others said , should have gone full blast during op sindoor . golden opportunity lost . truly masterstroke of all time

My biggest worry is that China will have Pakistan test their weapons. They are obviously not entering any conflict directly but could keep drip-feeding equipment to Pakistan who will test it on us. This is very bad as till now their weapons were not battle tested. This process will never change the strategic calculus. We will always be stronger for the foreseeable future vis-à-vis Pakistan but they now might have something to test their weapons out. In such a case we win every tactical engagement like sindoor but then end up losing 2-3 airframes and the Chinese will now have battle intelligence.