Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (51 Viewers)

Modi Govt is intended target.

If IFS baboo-mantri Lazer Eyes has foreign settled spawn and is compromised, the UN Genrols also have the same setup and so you can imagine.

One sets up Leaderji with the "No escalation saar, onlee hit terrorist saar, not aggressor saar" bullshit ROE then assorted other UN Genrols and Afsars blame him for any asset loss because of the ROE.

Totally fixed match, only way out is that they must buttress the point via IT Celliyas that we bund-blasted them including Punjab and they could do absolutely nothing to our side and had to beg for ceasefire to Uncle Sam( or Indian DGMO )

Opposition swines make everything about Modi as if he was flying the jets or planning operations, when everything is focused on Leaderji the Rayban-dharis get away scot free

If you might remember there was guy who gave me some titbits during op sindoor. The post had to be deleted due to how bang on it was.

According to him the sentiment among armed forces is that these operations are usually launched under political compulsions with a strict exit timeline as the govt simply refuses to see things through.

There is a running sentiment that most operations simply do not impose a strategic defeat on pakistan not because we cannot do it but because there is no green light for controlled escalation.

A point was also made on how even though the Op was a glowing success more damage should have been done wrt to the amount of capabilities we ended up displaying thus revealing our cards.

A lot of people now expect them to be better prepared for the next round.
 
I think investigations has already indicated this to be a saboutage. We are at this point just gathering solid proof.

Calling out Pakistan / ISI openly at global stage will stir massive storm, especially that a sizeable british population was also killed in the crash. World will notice.



This is what bothers me. Previous attacks like Reasi Bus attack was brushed under the carpet quickly because the threshold of military action wasn't breached, and we didn't wanted to flame country's emotions.

In my opinion, we don't have to give a military response for the crash. We should shame them on global stage linking Pakistani military and ISI with the crash. Since goras are involved world will notice.
Goras have been noticing and funding from a long time they simply don’t give a damn. If it turns out to be a sabotage and he does not respond his political strongman image is fucked and he knows that.
 
You can't clearly imply anything saar, he most likely meant that IAF would rectify and improve upon whatever mistake or miscalculation led to damage/shoot down etc.
I heard this many times and clearly he said 3 times that the ‘jets were down’ and not ‘downed’.
He also referred them in plural “why they were being down” which clearly means they are grounded.
He also said after 2 days we remedy/rectify (clearly he was referring to SEAD) and ‘flew all our jets’.
He also denied losing 6 jets as Pak claimed.

Like many here said before, this was clearly a low-blow and our general fell for it. He should have denied this interview.

Look at the interviewer, she was clearly delighted and asked again “one jet, atleast one jet was downed?”.
She probably got a raise for meeting her objective.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/3aMBHaGRsec?si=hG2jthjvX6NEQP46
 
I heard this many times and clearly he said 3 times that the ‘jets were down’ and not ‘downed’.
He also referred them in plural “why they were being down” which clearly means they are grounded.
He also said after 2 days we remedy/rectify (clearly he was referring to SEAD) and ‘flew all our jets’.
He also denied losing 6 jets as Pak claimed.

Like many here said before, this was clearly a low-blow and our general fell for it. He should have denied this interview.

Look at the interviewer, she was clearly delighted and asked again “one jet, atleast one jet was downed?”.
She probably got a raise for meeting her objective.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/3aMBHaGRsec?si=hG2jthjvX6NEQP46


The Genrol didn't know, his underlings or maybe some MEA or other non-military baboo deceived him into going for this interview.
It was an Ambush and the CDS didn't know how to deal with media snakes.

All snippets from his utterances sound like a how a generol will talk to his colleagues, other govt folks or to his juniors, not to ((( foreign ))) media of all people.
 
tell me if this info below gives clarity on why the players in the game behaved the way they did.
keep MEA aside, would you take the chance if you were in national security council secretariat?
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In 2002, Lieutenant General Khalid Kidwai, head of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division (SPD), publicly outlined four key nuclear redlines, a rare clarification of Pakistan’s otherwise ambiguous doctrine. These redlines, as discussed in Pakistani strategic circles, were:


  1. Spatial Threshold: If Indian forces penetrate deep into Pakistani territory, threatening significant territorial losses.
  2. Military Threshold: If India destroys a large part of Pakistan’s land or air forces, crippling its conventional capabilities.
  3. Economic Threshold: If India imposes an economic blockade, such as a naval blockade, strangling Pakistan’s economy.
  4. Political Threshold: If India destabilizes Pakistan internally, through subversion or incitement of large-scale unrest.
Point No 3 & 4 will be tested in the next round. If we don't , we'd be exposed as a paper tiger.

We've already blown up the one chance we had this May after 6 years . Doubt we'd get such a golden opportunity the next time around. Be that as it may we'd have to make do with the opportunities we get.

To conclude I doubt any enemy would get as many opportunities as India did does & will as we get against Paxtan. Then again I can't recall any country other than Paxtan which'd continue to wage fruitless wars & still survive.

We're brother in arms whichever way one dices it . Even the Arab countries after having repeatedly tangled with the Israelis learnt their lesson & made their peace , certainly not the Paxtanis & neither have we for letting them get away cheaply.
 
Is there a way to establish a body count? We would need friendly agents on the ground. Hitting empty buildings would not be much of a deterrence.

In 2 years even the guys here will be crying over

>we hit only empty buildings
>made holes in runways which can be repaired in 2 seconds
>hit hangars with nothing inside
>lost over 3000 planes

Meanwhile Pakis will still be chanting 6-0, 6-0 even if the Indian army is just outside Pindi-Islumabad
 

NDTV article showing damage to terror camps in two different sites, i'm posting images here

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I'm sure we have killed "crows" and "trees" at levels never before thought possible :troll:
 
Fighter jets try to shoot down these drones from close up( using their guns) and in small but significant cases the debris from destroyed drone hits the jet.
Even during op sindoor porkies were using f16 and j10c to shoot down high drones we can use it to damage jets and awacs especially the turbojet version of geran 2.0
 

NDTV article showing damage to terror camps in two different sites, i'm posting images here

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I'm sure we have killed "crows" and "trees" at levels never before thought possible :troll:
Balakot was definitely a success
Iaf can't miss as p0rkis and few Indians claimed
Looking at the precision
 
Balakot was definitely a success
Iaf can't miss as p0rkis and few Indians claimed
Looking at the precision


It was a "failure" and so is Op Sindoor because by and large Indians have paper thin skin and are easily taken in by enemy propaganda.

Sarkar being incompetent at communicating doesn't help either.

Pakis and greens in general are gold medallists in spin, mental gymnastics, deception and gas-lighting.
They also have phull sapport of the West and Indians also believe that gora saheb is never wrong. :facepalm4:

With such mental weakness i wonder how we will fare in a long war, we have no paucity of caste kangs, language warriors etc to exploit cleavages in society for the enemies' benefit and the main chisel for these cracks is manufacturing perception that whatever we do amounts to nothing, we are incompetent, we never win etc.

Mark my words even on this forum in next few years you will have rudalis who put down the achievements of Op Sindoor and magnify the cheese-fire, ROE and whatever planes were hit as some massive Ls.
 
It was a "failure" and so is Op Sindoor because by and large Indians have paper thin skin and are easily taken in by enemy propaganda.

Sarkar being incompetent at communicating doesn't help either.

Pakis and greens in general are gold medallists in spin, mental gymnastics, deception and gas-lighting.
They also have phull sapport of the West and Indians also believe that gora saheb is never wrong. :facepalm4:

With such mental weakness i wonder how we will fare in a long war, we have no paucity of caste kangs, language warriors etc to exploit cleavages in society for the enemies' benefit and the main chisel for these cracks is manufacturing perception that whatever we do amounts to nothing, we are incompetent, we never win etc.

Mark my words even on this forum in next few years you will have rudalis who put down the achievements of Op Sindoor and magnify the cheese-fire, ROE and whatever planes were hit as some massive Ls.
We might have our Vietnam moment at this rate. America basically pulled back from Vietnam partly because their local janta was very vocal against the war over loss of American men and machines. Ofc the Vietnamese also fought really well against them. Anyways, our paper thin skinned janta can easily become anti war the moment they see losses of life and machine as well in a prolonged war. Especially against China. Government has to be ready for that. How they manage the public sentiment, is something we have to see. Especially in this day and age of internet, where any idiot could put their bs on SM..
 
We might have our Vietnam moment at this rate. America basically pulled back from Vietnam partly because their local janta was very vocal against the war over loss of American men and machines. Ofc the Vietnamese also fought really well against them. Anyways, our paper thin skinned janta can easily become anti war the moment they see losses of life and machine as well in a prolonged war. Especially against China. Government has to be ready for that. How they manage the public sentiment, is something we have to see. Especially in this day and age of internet, where any idiot could put their bs on SM..

What we have on our side is we are fighting enemies on our borders so it makes the job of 5th column snakes harder.

However they can do protest dramas to force the Govt into a (((ceasefire)))/((( peace treaty ))) that isn't in-line with our objectives.
 

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