Operation Sindoor

DFB members should not beat the war drum without foreseeing the consequences of such actions. Our objective was not to fight a war, but to achieve justice for the victims and establish deterrence. Prolonging the conflict does not favor India, as war has many tangled consequences that may take years to recover from, while the benefits are often reaped by others. The government's decision to achieve a ceasefire was made after considering all aspects.

Yes an ultra mega masterstroke which we simpletons can never understand/grasp.
By the way, what objectives were achieved? Can we list a few?

If none, then who gets to take the blame for this disaster which produced a BIG FAT ZERO? And at the cost of how many innocent lives?
 
Pakis major cities burned while we laughed at them from our major cities comfortable and cushy.

And now they'll be slowly dying of thirst over the next few years.

Sure, "success".
Pakis will think it is success of their Baniyan Operation
 
In his address, Shehbaz said Pakistan won the war 😂

They'll follow the ceasefire, so nothing was violated.
So this is the end of it then. Anti-climatic but not entirely unexpected.

If I'm being rational here, this is more than what I expected our men and government to do immediately after the Pahalgam massacre on 22nd April. Might sound like copium but aside from 1971, not once in 54 years would any Indian have thought that missile striking Paki air force bases that too in broad daylight would've been possible. It's all thanks to the great people in DRDO and their relentless hard work despite frustrations from the babudom and Chandigarh lobby that this was possible. I could not be any more proud of them, the pride of the nation they certainly are. Then there's also the increasing involvement of private sector defense companies. This is an excellent development too.

I don't want to speculate if the stories of the beheadings are true or not but it is indeed a fact that many people have died on our side since May 7th due to shelling and not just the "incident". My condolences to their family members and I shall pray for their souls to attain Moksha.

As far as Pakis declaring victory goes... Only Pakis are the bumpkins who can claim victory after having their air force bases bombed in broad daylight with satellite images to prove it. The speculated downing of the Rafale is quite literally nothing compared to the level of escalation they've been unable to match. Mind you, we've struck as far back as Sargodha (confirmed) and maybe even Peshawar (unconfirmed), even left a runway inoperable for a whole week. We've actively demonstrated that we can have the whole Paki air force fleet grounded if we so wished.

If the Paki exclaims muh Rafale! Just respond with an "Did that stop the missiles?"
 
DFB members should not beat the war drum without foreseeing the consequences of such actions. Our objective was not to fight a war, but to achieve justice for the victims and establish deterrence. Prolonging the conflict does not favor India, as war has many tangled consequences that may take years to recover from, while the benefits are often reaped by others. The government's decision to achieve a ceasefire was made after considering all aspects.
And oye aman ki asha ! Tu apne gyan ko ek chitti me likh . Roll kar baatti bana aur ek dark n cold place me store kar.

Ye defence forum hai , koi star plus ka randi rona serial nahi. If u are spineless don’t stay here. This place is for men!

The way our next generations are coming , if we can’t solve this paki issue . You guys won’t be able to do it with your protein powder muscles.
Nothing is achieved they stuck a knife in back now we will stick a Kamadhenu Sariya in their behind . If country need we will give our wealth our selves and everything dear to us. But won’t be fooled by this narrative of we achieved what if we got last punch on our nose.
 
To me, it seems that CCP has also delivered an indirect threat, that this has happened after the "fake news" of be-headings & drone attacks is significant.

People forget that the China and Pakistani threads may be different in this forum, it's not in reality. One of the reasons of the Pakistani belligerence is that the China front is still an active threat for India, even if it has disappeared from frontal view of many here. The men at the top running the show aren't as blinded to that reality. People thinking India could do a lot more seem oblivious to the constraints which exist and the risks that need to be accounted for.
 
DFB members should not beat the war drum without foreseeing the consequences of such actions. Our objective was not to fight a war, but to achieve justice for the victims and establish deterrence. Prolonging the conflict does not favor India, as war has many tangled consequences that may take years to recover from, while the benefits are often reaped by others. The government's decision to achieve a ceasefire was made after considering all aspects.
Then what?? Again same thing will happen... U will be stuck in a cycle, where they will kill your citizens whenever they want and we will "achieve justice" only when there is mass casualty. Only way to actually secure Indias future is demilitarisation of Pakistan. And India can sustain the war, especially against Pakistan.
 
Feels like Balakot 2.0 paki have already started peddling their narrative and it's impossible to battle.
Like I said previously they are visual animals and few blast here and there won't affect them, they need to see it to believe it. We need some really graphical image and material achievement to win propaganda war.
Yes, it seems like 1971 Shimla agreement defeat type redux started happening.
Where Paikhanastanis will surely try to claim that they won, I think that then we should use all these past pages of this thread, screenshot twitter posts, download videos if we can and keep those posts and videos safe, I say keep this thread in this forum safe because it's important, in future we are going to need this thread posts to debunk Paikhanastanis and bring them back to life.

Regarding Chowmeins threat, it seems like Chowmeins told Paikhanastanis to score some brownie points while breaking ceasefire tonight for a few hours and as soon as India was going to get into war mode busting again, Chowmeins like they think they can do something( man, the amount superiority these HANS show is just puking level) came infront and said like they are any superior that they EXPECT India to behave.

I want to ask Chinese what they think they are? none of their weapons work, all is full air little substance, they make jokes of themselves by throwing missiles in south china sea now and then, they think they can do something.

The most Chowmeins can do is to sit on the LAC border and supply Paikhanastanis with their pathetic drones.

I must say India should hit Paikhanastanis with drones again and tell to both chinese and jihadis, now talk, otherwise Chowmeins will get fake superiority delusions.
 
Bukhari 1765:

"…The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I want this... - He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he added: You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle…"*

According to Allah, from Qur'an 47.35, Allah commands the believers, do not seek peace when your hand is uppermost:
Qur'an 47.35:

"…So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior…"

* When Islam is in a position of weakness against the infidels, they have a holy command from Allah from the Quran and Muhammad to lie to the infidels to buy time:

In conclusion:

As a religious command, from Allah, from the Quran, from Muhammad, and from Sharia law:

* Islam is in a constant state of war against the infidels, until it destroys them.

* When Islam is weak, the believers are commanded to obtain a hudna (temporary ceasefire) so that they can gain strength that will surpass the strength of the infidels.

* There is no meaning in signing an agreement with Islam since they are allowed to violate it at any moment.

* When the power of the believers exceeds the power of the infidels, the believers are ordered to abandon the Hudna agreement and destroy the infidels.



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Truth to be told some of the memebers having misgivings about MEA briefings are spot on. I too have misgiving about them. The briefings are very very high on optics and very formal. There are a lot of questions they have not answered. First is about material losses. The country need to know the facts. We need to know what losses we inflicted on the enemy and what did we loose.

Second, I am very very disappointed by the coverage over Fidayeen attack in J&K. There is complete mismatch in information between even govt. approved sources. It leads to confusion. The wording of the reports are very dangerous and meek. The govt. is falsely projecting a sense of "sab changa si". It is not. Thats why we voted for this govt. we don't want a govt. who in the name of keeping order and peace will report a bomb blast as cylinder blast.

The govt. need to be forthcoming. It will not work. Also, rightly said by someone here: ent ka jawab pathar say is not the best method now.

We need to pound pakistan now day in and day out. The sound of bombs should be 24X7.

A very bad day for us today.
 
I honestly don't know what to make of the 2 minute MEA presser. Before you "MUHHHH BLACKPILL" me, please explain what was all the denial and obfuscation about the attacks in Jammu and Srinagar about? I mean, what possible masterstroke can be hidden there? This is the first time I have seen a country provide a shield for an enemy country's terrorist acts by claiming that they did nothing; the Pakis didn't even have to deny attacking Jammu or Vaishno Devi, we denied it for them. Even tho there's dozens of videos about it floating on the Net. Even going by the standard of 786D chess masterstrokes, this one has really stumped me; please help me.
 
Islam explicitly tells you to make peace when you are weak and then violate the agreement when you have the strength since agreements with Kaffirs hold no value.

Man out secular chutiyas still haven't realized we are at religious war with Pakistan and Pakistan is using these tactics.
 
Operation Sindoor is big success. No one doubting it.

But we effed up at negotiation table. The blame goes to Jayshankar and his fellow IFS babus.
Mudiji is well past his time. His tenure is ended with good note by building Ram Mandir. He will be remembered as greatest PM we ever had.

This is far from over though. This is prelude to our rise on global stage. We broke the shackles by attacking main land pak. The fires lit by our brave Bois have ignited the dormant flames in every Hindu. It will shape our future destiny.

India will raise as Bharat from tonight onwards.
 
What's up with this
People believe in the armed forces people have less faith on the government.... unfortunately. Not without reason. They have been doing ladder ladder, playing proportionate proportionate. All while we have lost more civilians than the actual Pahalgam attack!

The moment ceasefire was announced Pakistanis declared victory on social media. It's "fantastic tea" all over again. Government of India needs to understand, the objectives of victory in this information war is an narrative win.

A few holes on runways or bunch of fires in some of their air bases will rattle there defence forces, but the awam hadly knows about it properly.
We need something concrete.
We need something tangible.
We need destroyed PN & PAF assets.
We need destroyed AWACS, Ships, subs, jets.

How many of us even know of the reports that BLA may have captured Quetta? If I were GOI I would talk to the Taliban about recognising India's support on the lands they claim based on what the Afghan Empire lost to the British after 1850.
Let them take the tribal & pashtun areas from Pak, or atleast be a threat laying a claim.
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People believe in the armed forces people have less faith on the government.... unfortunately. Not without reason. They have been doing ladder ladder, playing proportionate proportionate. All while we have lost more civilians than the actual Pahalgam attack!

The moment ceasefire was announced Pakistanis declared victory on social media. It's "fantastic tea" all over again. Government of India needs to understand, the objectives of victory in this information war is an narrative win.

A few holes on runways or bunch of fires in some of their air bases will rattle there defence forces, but the awam hadly knows about it properly.
We need something concrete.
We need something tangible.
We need destroyed PN & PAF assets.
We need destroyed AWACS, Ships, subs, jets.

How many of us even know of the reports that BLA may have captured Quetta? If I were GOI I would talk to the Taliban about recognising India's support on the lands they claim based on what the Afghan Empire lost to the British after 1850.
Let them take the tribal & pashtun areas from Pak, or atleast be a threat laying a claim.
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Good sir you are justified in doubting our political leadership as they had let us down many times in the past. But I guess the horrific Pahalgam incident has triggered something into our psyche where even peaceniks are baying for Paki blood. As for banging them remember we achieved the objective of our initial strikes when we destroyed the terror camps deep inside Pakistan which the international community was onboard with. Beyond that we needed Pakis to attack us and escalate. This was always going to be limited to retaliation. MEA pressers are supposed to be sugarcoated but our response on the ground has been anything but proportionate. We fucked up their multiple air bases in broad daylight and they couldn't achieve jackshit even after continuous trying for 3 straight nights. So yes I believe the govt when it says our military have free hand as they are the ones determining the rules of engagement.

As for the ceasefire we couldn't say no when the other side was begging for one to the orange man. I am sure we conveyed to the orange man that we are doing this only at his insistence, giving a massive rub to this huge ego. If anything this blatant violation by the Pakis would have bruised his ego for sure and also giving us enough reasons to continue pounding them.

We are criticising Modi for not showing spine to continue this war but please also remember in the last general if some of the close results didn't go his way, he would not be the PM today. Imagine Raul Baba as PM, Akhilesh as DM and Mamata as EAM, what would have been our response to Pahalgam?
 
Why? MEA said nothing much in Jammu, everything peaceful. It was only people hallucinating.

Why are we violating ceasefire? If we are retaliating, then retaliating for what? I thought next attack on us would mean WAR?

You seems to forget what was going on before Trump’s stupid tweet.

pakistan hits we hit back proportionally only difference they barely able to achieve 5% we achieve 100% costing them both men and material and PR

nothing has changed now pakis send drones our air defence took out them easily

India sent drones from Skardu, Peshawar, Bahawalpur to Karachi, we took out terrorist in bahawalpur and MUs in other places …

For India nothing has changed we can keep this heightened state of affairs forever pakis cant and also neither we will talk with them nor we will reinstate IWT…

If now pakis start another round using Air strikes or Missiles we will respond proportionally only difference we hit all 💯of targets with no ADS
 

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