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It was also surprise, these two turned out better. I am sure Pakistani must also be thinking "All Indians are Hindutva radicals, even indian liberals are liberal for show, they need an opportunity to show rss-wadi Soch."
Unpopular opinion ..in this conflict people like Barkha , Owaisi , Abdullaha and our BTS genz turned out to be our asset whereas MSM and other right wing idiots turned out to be liabily..
 
forgot link . the casualty they claim is clearly a lie , doubt we will ever find out real number.



galwan battle ended with our troops being captured , valley upto pp14 under their control . pla won there - reasons are many .

tawang clash and op snowleopard are were we showed our aukut .

chinese are still in large numbers at the LAC . they are behaving decently for now . all agreements being followed , i doubt they care about porks so much that they will start being aggressive there.

only issue is the orange monkey . if he starts boot licking chinese . it will be bad for taiwan and us.
hey is pp14 the hair pin bend or is it a bit beyond the bend ?

Where?
 
M2K was probably crashed rather than shot down, nothing surprising there .
IAF not denying aircraft loss so rafale might have been shot, concerning thing here is why it wasn't able to use countermeasures.
Su30mki in 2019 had blocked several a2a missiles
I don't know what aircrafts you are talking about.
Nothing crashed 😄
Where are you getting that M2K crash information from?
And IAF not denying loss can also mean we lost bunshees and other UAVs.
I was talking about a hypothetical scenario that if we have lost (say) a fighter jet like (say) Rafale, people should not do rudaali as IAF is not made of 1 fighter jet alone.
 
I have a hunch World War 3 might happen before 2050. This time Asia will be the War Theater. European war theater might be minor limited to just Baltics and Eastern Europe(Ukraine mainly). Just look at the conflicts all over the World. Major ones are in Asia at the moment. We have Israel and Iran in the Middle East. India - Porkistan in South Asia. Then China against everybody in East Asia to take control of first island chain. First 2 conflicts will not trigger a World War, it will be limited. The world is not going to care let alone fight because Israel/India are engaged in war. However, if the Chinese do make a move on Taiwan and US joins to defend Taiwan, then all bets are off.

That will be a perfect opportunity for the Iranians to set Middle East on fire and also us to finish Porkistan for ever. In our case it will be slightly complicated since we must push Chinese back from Tibet and establish control in the Himalayas. Day by Day I feel the fight is getting more closer. Chinese are rapidly modernizing at a pace never seen before. It is obvious given the shifting demographics in their country, they can't wage a big war in 2040s or 2050s. Their population pyramid is already starting to invert. Fight a war now and even if you lose lot of young men there will still be enough to rebuild the country later. Or fight a war later and lose lot of young men which makes it difficult to rebuild the country later on with aging population. They need to swallow the poison pill sooner or later.
Yeah, 2050 we will be like a 0.8+ HDI country but with a 400 million population advantage over them as well as younger demographics.

Military complex will also have become completely indigenous.
 
The surprising thing about this 3 day drama was that our Air Defence bested PAF.
I mean F16 flying low within their own air space to avoid S400, how comforting that thought is 😄

Long time back (circa 2010-11) I read an article in a Russian portal about how S400 can enable "offensive defence" by making large areas of air operations untenable for a enemy air force to operate within.
This was the time when India was evaluating S400 and lots of peddled news used to float around.
I did not believe that article.
This 3 day skirmish opened my eyes and made me believe that concept.
Russians are really the masters of war-craft that way.

Also, this should put to rest the S400 vs US vs Israel Arrow etc. waala debate.
The system works in the hands of IAF, so much so that we are making one of our own inhouse.
 
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I have a hunch World War 3 might happen before 2050. This time Asia will be the War Theater. European war theater might be minor limited to just Baltics and Eastern Europe(Ukraine mainly). Just look at the conflicts all over the World. Major ones are in Asia at the moment. We have Israel and Iran in the Middle East. India - Porkistan in South Asia. Then China against everybody in East Asia to take control of first island chain. First 2 conflicts will not trigger a World War, it will be limited. The world is not going to care let alone fight because Israel/India are engaged in war. However, if the Chinese do make a move on Taiwan and US joins to defend Taiwan, then all bets are off.

That will be a perfect opportunity for the Iranians to set Middle East on fire and also us to finish Porkistan for ever. In our case it will be slightly complicated since we must push Chinese back from Tibet and establish control in the Himalayas. Day by Day I feel the fight is getting more closer. Chinese are rapidly modernizing at a pace never seen before. It is obvious given the shifting demographics in their country, they can't wage a big war in 2040s or 2050s. Their population pyramid is already starting to invert. Fight a war now and even if you lose lot of young men there will still be enough to rebuild the country later. Or fight a war later and lose lot of young men which makes it difficult to rebuild the country later on with aging population. They need to swallow the poison pill sooner or later.

Chinese hold on tibet has been gamed. its a daunting task but not impossible- threat of nukage from China is much more serious though - commie militaries dont fuck around with nuke threats- gotta be sure you can intercept/eat nukes of china and nuke em back if you want tibet.

However, let me just leave it at this - any 'capture south tibet and make trans-himalayas the boundary with china (pushing beyond into vast wilderness of northern tibet pushes our logistics much more than china's to supply there) involves 3 axial thrusts along certain points of the himalayas while holding at least two main axial thrusts by China. The cost would be astronomical coz well, when u have combat for multiple days of ground action at that altitude of 5km average, people just drop dead from exertion. So both sides are looking at horrendous Ukraine-esque casualties to achieve military goal, especially India.

I will also say this - Tibet is not for us to dream about, but our children. Its another 50 years away, at least, because we need 50 years of progress to enjoy the fruit of winning tibet- else if we get to have our wet dream of greater India now, America will flat-kill us for being clear cut runaway competition #2.

So before we dream of tibet, we must first kill pakistan. kill your arch-enemy before you dream of dealing with your arch-rival.
Plus it gives us time to have US-China competition wreck each other and retard each other's growth. Something we must learn from Deng Xiaoping if we want Tibet back : sit tight, grow big and wait for the opportune moment.
Once that arrives, we push the international border to Naqgu. The flat-line it through barren nw tibet to Aksai Chin, the natural frontier of Indian subcontnent to rest of Asian plate in that particular area.
 

Per this article a 36 warship deployment was made to spook Pakis into salwar shivering within Karachi harbor and port.

All 7 destroyers were deployed, 6 submarines were also deployed and INS Vikrant, ofc it is ((( sources ))) based
 
Can't get over the fact that she was a polar opposite person who used to paint India badly, used to reveal Indian military locations to the enemies. The change is abysmal 😂 Her podcasts are very listenable now. She has left all the theatrics & acts very reasonable.
Yeah she has turned over a new leaf it seems. Her podcasts are also quite balanced even though her liberal bias gets highlighted more often than not. The opposite seems to have happened to Ravish. He used to behave calm and composed but he is going more senile day by day.

Never imagined zoo bear to be in the forefront of busting anti India propaganda.

Anyways the Udhampur fake attack video enacted by the Pakis was embarrassingly bad. ISPR should stick to making item songs
 

technically we fucked them in 1947 war too. They attacked kingdom of kashmir and all gains they are left with, are before Kashmir's accession to India and India being formally at war with Pakistan. Yes, we moved back and forth a bit and you can call it a tactical stalemate, but its a strategic victory for us : pakistan did not capture capital of Kashmir or majority of it by land or population- we were left with decisive majority of it ( which turned into largest minority after our land share of Kashmir dropped below 50% due to china eating vast aksai chin. most importantly, Paki failure to take ladakh meant we controlled headpoints to ALL paki rivers- even the ones impossible to divert, are still possible for us to fuck with coz it does go through our land.
So first kashmir war is their best performance but still a loss from strategic war parameters :if you attack a smaller nation,which then runs to a bigger nation and becomes part of it and at the end of the war, you fail to take most of this said former tiny nation for yourself, even its capital or most of its people or land, its a total L for you. You failed at your original task and have marginal gains to show for your efforts.
 
technically we fucked them in 1947 war too. They attacked kingdom of kashmir and all gains they are left with, are before Kashmir's accession to India and India being formally at war with Pakistan. Yes, we moved back and forth a bit and you can call it a tactical stalemate, but its a strategic victory for us : pakistan did not capture capital of Kashmir or majority of it by land or population- we were left with decisive majority of it ( which turned into largest minority after our land share of Kashmir dropped below 50% due to china eating vast aksai chin. most importantly, Paki failure to take ladakh meant we controlled headpoints to ALL paki rivers- even the ones impossible to divert, are still possible for us to fuck with coz it does go through our land.
So first kashmir war is their best performance but still a loss from strategic war parameters :if you attack a smaller nation,which then runs to a bigger nation and becomes part of it and at the end of the war, you fail to take most of this said former tiny nation for yourself, even its capital or most of its people or land, its a total L for you. You failed at your original task and have marginal gains to show for your efforts.
The K in Pakistan stands for Kashmir.

They have always been Paistan.
 
M2K was probably crashed rather than shot down, nothing surprising there .
IAF not denying aircraft loss so rafale might have been shot, concerning thing here is why it wasn't able to use countermeasures.
Su30mki in 2019 had blocked several a2a missiles
Do not spread Paki misinformation here. Doesn't matter what you think. This is the war of info now. Do not give some breathe to pork.
 
I would beg to disagree with you last para. For me , US is sounding as good as like enemy for India.
look , US and China do not want India to arrive on world platform as military power.If you could see , US clinched trade deal with China recently and they have broader understanding amongst them to bog down India in PAK. Same Game US plays with India when it comes to relation with China to bog them down.
So in nutshell , US uses PAK for India and India for China. Now here knowing fully well , China plays along US , because they know , India is difficult to handle and supporting US hyphenating PAK-INDIA is in their interest. For us it is very difficult situation because knowing fully well that both the superpowers are against us , we have to navigate our ship .
So subjugating PAK permanently only will nullify our one front and we would be able to tackle China. our Path to world stage will only come when China accepts us as equal partner in Asia and works with us. Till that time we have to fight this WAR.
Enter Russia wild-card,who is the biggest wildcard on the deck- both in terms of scope and power and in terms of swinging this contest one way or another.
Ofcourse,Russia is incapacitated now in its own struggle over Ukraine, so Russian help over Pakis related to the two super-powers and the rock paper scissors aspect of it wont come for another generation.

For now, India has to focus on doing that it holds the power to do on paper : fuck with its geographical neighbour and make it full spectral war to cause collapse from within.
That is the wildcard power WE possess - we have ethnic and political and financial ability to infiltrate their society and cause collapse from within, within a generation too, while fanning the flames across their western frontier.
On this count, we hold all the theoretical aces in the deck, as no amount of money and technology can stop a country from breaking from within and fragmenting, if its ethnically and geographically linked neighbour of greater power can successfully fuck with it.
Ultimately, Chinese or americans cant tell us and pakis apart on a good day, so they cant tell our agents apart. That gives us operational tempo control against their money.

In short, they can help prop up Pakistan from top-down aid, but we can burn pakistan to the ground, from grounds-up stage.
 
Bachi kuchii ijjat bhi jane wali hea Jehadistan will be out of ICC soon
India should fund ICC more and promote teams in Caribbean nations, Fiji, PNG and other old British nations and completely throw out Pakistan (and possibly BD in future)
 
We are getting overconfident right now. Stop the stupid posts about air defence , we performed excellent but that's all. Remember chinese have more j 20 in their service than we have su 30mki. A fifth gen which we only dream off. They already have 3 , 5+ gen fighter program ahead of our mk 2 program. Pakistan will now be getting , world class equipment from now.
We might have removed the imminent danger for now but a sword is lingering right above our neck.

What we need is to force the government , to take steps and hammer when iron is red hot and launch 10+ intiatives to improve overall ecosystem of our Defense RnD. We really need some tough steps to secure our future

There is no reason to assume Chini actually have a 5th gen that meets the standards. Look at the quality of their AD. Why would they buy S400 if they had comparable systems, because they themselves had no confidence in indigenous systems.

I am not saying we should underestimate Chini but there's no need to blow them up as well. Mass producing consumer goods doesn't make you a military power.

We should anyway pour money and fastrack indigenous development and procurement where we can't make inhouse. We should go for some Su-57 as a stop gap till AMCA comes live. That's the only viable 5th gen option for us.
 
We need to compile list of things Turkey is exporting to India and target them.
I already see this happening at local level but it needs to happen at a higher level.

Any Indian films going to turkey for film shoots must be taxed extra,
similar acts must happen across the spectrum to show these mofos what it means to have one the largest markets shoving a boot up their Turkish bum
 
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