Opinions and Discussion about Feminism.

[spikey360]

The BJP isn't a conservative party. Neither are they a Hindu party.

They are a socialist and nationalist party.

Be it women's empowerment, social justice, etc., their policies make it clear that they are anything but conservative or Hindu.

Unfortunately, I agree with you, nowadays.

 

[Varoon4]

How does this sickening incident square with the idea of women always being victims. It's about a possessive( and murderous) lover. And the instigator is a Christian woman, at that.

It's also hard to chalk this up to " there are some bad asses in Indian society" . If the guy really needed to, he could have left his wife and kids( bad as that is) to be with his girlfriend. To actually kill his family, including the two young daughters...sickening isn't strong enough. Stupefying might be closer.

Needless to say, neither the girlfriend nor the man, should see the outside of a prison wall again.

Girlfriend tells man to kill his wife and children, and he does

In a shocking piece of news from Hyderabad, a southern Indian city, a man reportedly killed his wife and two young children because his girlfriend asked him to do so. The man remained free, going about his job as usual for 45 days. Since the police had registered a case of an accident, and he...

www.wionews.com

 

[spindrift]

View: https://twitter.com/Ancient_Masc/status/1813414462600139064

 

[johny_baba]

Bro I'm disagree with you here.

1) Never speak truth to a women. They hate truth more than anything. You will be punished instantaneously

2) Never tells/Discuss your weakness to a women, she will use it as weapons against you

3) Don't confess anything in front of women out of guilt. Your life will be ruined immediately. Most people do this silly mistake hoping to make relationship stronger.

4) always maintain a false aura of happiness/excitement around you, this attracts women more than anything

5) Women likes risk taking people. But it don't mean you need to take serious risks. You need to take pitty risk like jumping a queue. Going out in middle of night to buy icecream etc.

6) A chapri tean girl can love handsome boys but after their 20's, women only love money.


To all, Please do not like post until you experience atleast any of 3 points.

i'd like to enhance upon this,
the thing with modern era women is, they have their first 'marriage' with 'the state' itself which is making sure they get all the chances at upliftment in name of education, employment opportunities and protection via laws and its implementation through machinery...this kind of environment is necessary for the gender equality that 'the state' is so insistent in bringing out;
however we are seeing the usual 'give them an inch, and they'll take a mile' happening with same; without any checks and balances over FEAR of local and international criticism at least and muh psyops at worst

Incumbent is doing great deal for women empowerment for reason unknown to us comman man. If it wasn’t for such shitty band of parties who makes opposition BJP will come out as quite bad.

Good men are now scared to approach women with good intentions. Forget approaching someone for dating. In fact women are only being enabled to (with impunity) falsely and successfully report men they don't like, men who made them upset, etc. Anyone not shortsighted can already see the upcoming massive, generational social issues this will give birth to. Segregated schooling has already done enough damage, and many men as a result don't actually know how to properly talk to women before they enter college, and learn the hard way. Nobody wants to be labeled an incel, and most modern men make a genuine effort to know and understand women better, for romantic intentions or not. But the laws are tipped so far against the male populace, it's easy to see how discouraging it'll be for men in general to interact with women they don't know. All this will do, is create a backward society where men are discouraged to not interact with women before marriage, and it's not like he's safe even after marriage. The lobbyists who are screaming for "women's empowerment" keep forgetting that you do not empower one side by oppressing the other side. Maybe that's the idea. Modern feminism never cared for equality in the first place.

Next up in their agenda will most likely be legalising the flesh trade in the name of women empowerment.
Something needs to be done, sooner rather than later.

One thing I always observed about Congressis, pre1947, post 1947 alike, they never interfered with societal dynamics for the sake of optics. Appeasement etc was their political agenda, that is a different story.

High time we require PM to be a married man. Either he take back his wife, learn about women, or he go and marry that Italian. (The beautiful one)

Reminder,
IT'S NOT THAT WOMEN EARNED IT ALL THROUGH THEIR MOVEMENTS ANYWHERE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CASE OF SOME STRATRA OF 'STRONG MEN*' GIVING OUT TO THEIR (SOMETIMES OUTRAGEOUS) DEMANDS BY SKEWING THE ENTIRE 'GAME' ON THEIR SIDE AND EVENTUALLY RUINING IT FOR NORMAL MEN

*strong men, not necessarily in physical sense but men with position and power of any kind

I recently coined this phrase in some teligram spaces that if things continue to go same way, we shall see it happening that, "INDIA BANEGA JAPAN" - a hyperconsumerist society where despite muh patriarchal setup of basic marriage and family notions actual 'beneficiary' are women; they are fully hypergamous to extent of dragging their own kin to extinction, adultery is RATHER A NORM, society is apathetic to pleas and suffering of the disenfranchised, worst of all these women are so backed by entire state machinery with ~99 percent conviction rate means any minor offence and your life is practically over, what was left was ruined by ever prevalent 'mehengaai' and inflation there, so even if you have a chance at life with somewhat saner woman to start a family it's almost impossible to attempt - unless you both have bank balance to put behind raising a child

in Japan, those men who received these kind of 'kicks' on their guts end up turning alcoholic, or hypermaterialist thinking why bother with family and life when 'returns' at it are so marginal at best; all their hikkimori ('shut-in' homestaying) and otaku culture that's so shunned down upon by others is result of ruined socioeconomical dynamics; and every form of societal interaction et al is hypercommercialised (that thing of 'girlfriend for hire' and what not, so you can just have a chance to go out with a girl if you feel like it )

and this isn't only japan, even china is going same path nowadays; but unlike japs these chinese are ruthless when push comes to shove, there was a news somewhere that nowadays 'human trafficking' of women and outright selling of them to disenfranchised men who simply want wives is becoming an emerging mess in their rural areas; and their police is mostly 'forced' to turn a blind eye at these things over various reasons

so yeah, we are at that crossroads where hypergamy due to all reasons is taking over, and only some strata of 'strong men' are able to get that kind of fulfilment in their lives while most of the womenfolk is simply drugged in their minds with all feminism and all

last but not least,
age of marriage during post '47 India till at least early 70 here was 16; which was raised to 18 for both sexes and then raised to 21 for men in late 80s i think (need to check dates) - all of that got supplemented by education for women for muh literacy rates or whatever; now two-three generation down with similar outdated education system that keeps young emerging people closeted inside chaar diwaare of classrooms for good 10+ hours a day has further ostracised them from basic interactions with womenfolk while the other party is...mostly indifferent or pursuing things for employment or muh 'freedumb' or whatever reasons...long run me we're seeing birthrates dropping below replacement levels in many states here

BUT but, who is at the blame ultimately? There was a nice twitter poster somewhere, a lady living in korea, she pointed out that when SoKorea was getting their prosperity times with rise of economy their society was given an option, whether to preserve 'honour' of their womenfolk by keeping them in traditional family system or allowing them to go into workforce for kamaai...it was obvious that most opted for second option and long result is already apparent there - and frankly you can see it happening almost everywhere

^so yeah, feminism is just one facet of this entire complex scenario, there are so many things behind whatever we are seeing happening here, and we are still at beginning stage of it, all i can say to my brethren here is to brace for more impacts

 

[spikey360]

i'd like to enhance upon this,
the thing with modern era women is, they have their first 'marriage' with 'the state' itself which is making sure they get all the chances at upliftment in name of education, employment opportunities and protection via laws and its implementation through machinery...this kind of environment is necessary for the gender equality that 'the state' is so insistent in bringing out;
however we are seeing the usual 'give them an inch, and they'll take a mile' happening with same; without any checks and balances over FEAR of local and international criticism at least and muh psyops at worst







Reminder,
IT'S NOT THAT WOMEN EARNED IT ALL THROUGH THEIR MOVEMENTS ANYWHERE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CASE OF SOME STRATRA OF 'STRONG MEN*' GIVING OUT TO THEIR (SOMETIMES OUTRAGEOUS) DEMANDS BY SKEWING THE ENTIRE 'GAME' ON THEIR SIDE AND EVENTUALLY RUINING IT FOR NORMAL MEN

*strong men, not necessarily in physical sense but men with position and power of any kind

I recently coined this phrase in some teligram spaces that if things continue to go same way, we shall see it happening that, "INDIA BANEGA JAPAN" - a hyperconsumerist society where despite muh patriarchal setup of basic marriage and family notions actual 'beneficiary' are women; they are fully hypergamous to extent of dragging their own kin to extinction, adultery is RATHER A NORM, society is apathetic to pleas and suffering of the disenfranchised, worst of all these women are so backed by entire state machinery with ~99 percent conviction rate means any minor offence and your life is practically over, what was left was ruined by ever prevalent 'mehengaai' and inflation there, so even if you have a chance at life with somewhat saner woman to start a family it's almost impossible to attempt - unless you both have bank balance to put behind raising a child

in Japan, those men who received these kind of 'kicks' on their guts end up turning alcoholic, or hypermaterialist thinking why bother with family and life when 'returns' at it are so marginal at best; all their hikkimori ('shut-in' homestaying) and otaku culture that's so shunned down upon by others is result of ruined socioeconomical dynamics; and every form of societal interaction et al is hypercommercialised (that thing of 'girlfriend for hire' and what not, so you can just have a chance to go out with a girl if you feel like it )

and this isn't only japan, even china is going same path nowadays; but unlike japs these chinese are ruthless when push comes to shove, there was a news somewhere that nowadays 'human trafficking' of women and outright selling of them to disenfranchised men who simply want wives is becoming an emerging mess in their rural areas; and their police is mostly 'forced' to turn a blind eye at these things over various reasons

so yeah, we are at that crossroads where hypergamy due to all reasons is taking over, and only some strata of 'strong men' are able to get that kind of fulfilment in their lives while most of the womenfolk is simply drugged in their minds with all feminism and all

last but not least,
age of marriage during post '47 India till at least early 70 here was 16; which was raised to 18 for both sexes and then raised to 21 for men in late 80s i think (need to check dates) - all of that got supplemented by education for women for muh literacy rates or whatever; now two-three generation down with similar outdated education system that keeps young emerging people closeted inside chaar diwaare of classrooms for good 10+ hours a day has further ostracised them from basic interactions with womenfolk while the other party is...mostly indifferent or pursuing things for employment or muh 'freedumb' or whatever reasons...long run me we're seeing birthrates dropping below replacement levels in many states here

BUT but, who is at the blame ultimately? There was a nice twitter poster somewhere, a lady living in korea, she pointed out that when SoKorea was getting their prosperity times with rise of economy their society was given an option, whether to preserve 'honour' of their womenfolk by keeping them in traditional family system or allowing them to go into workforce for kamaai...it was obvious that most opted for second option and long result is already apparent there - and frankly you can see it happening almost everywhere

^so yeah, feminism is just one facet of this entire complex scenario, there are so many things behind whatever we are seeing happening here, and we are still at beginning stage of it, all i can say to my brethren here is to brace for more impacts

Insightful post.
Didn't know many facts about Japan. Much appreciated.

 

[johny_baba]

Insightful post.
Didn't know many facts about Japan. Much appreciated.

there was a thread on Japan at good ol' D F I where i put many things regd japs and goreans too, also on that ever famous Firangistan thread; but it all got purged as the good ol' phorum got put in freezer

 

[Magadha Naresh]

Insightful post.
Didn't know many facts about Japan. Much appreciated.

Konichiwa spikey360 san
Johnny baba san is absolutely right as he is on jap telegram groups
Plus there are various channels on youthoob ( wrongly spelled as YouTube) where this is covered.
Main reason , or catalyst is that in Nihon , the bubble of economy did go boom in 90s, well and what a burst it was .
Under pressure from domestic republicans and factory workers class of usa , a movement was launced where they burned jap goods etc , hence japan was forced to agree to some economic measures, which I do not remember.
The awam e amrika thought it will help them, instead it helped Chyna.
See for yourself, in 90s all east asian nations called tiger economies had a economic crises except Chyna .
Well whatever it was , the wages however have not risen up since 90s , the lost decade but mehangai is increasing.
Believe I was shocked when I discovered that japanese payed for things in thousands of yens .
7000 yen for some consumer item
Salary is at 90 decade era.
You are wise , do the math you see it has brought a crisis.
Those who work , work super long hours , well known thing .
Hence , apart from reasons mentioned by Johnny baba san , the above is the catalyst for present day situation of japan
For more insight see vedio ( wrongly spelled as video ) on youthoob ( wrongly spelled as YouTube) of a man called rom rom ji, he is a harayanvi living in japan for years , he makes vlogs about every damn thing from daily life to office rajneeti , to samaj me lafde to any thing more , plus he is a fluent nihongo speaker, also his travel vlog around japan is superb . You will understand what I say when you see his vedios ( wrongly spelled as videos ).
Sayonara .

 

[Magadha Naresh]

Incumbent is doing great deal for women empowerment for reason unknown to us comman man. If it wasn’t for such shitty band of parties who makes opposition BJP will come out as quite bad.

For vote , he is doing it for vote .
His cms are doing this too .

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

why do you need empowerment in cities is beyond me the main places which need w-empowerment is backward areas and areas where education is low

but women empowered are already empowered in most cases (my opinions)

 

[spikey360]

why do you need empowerment in cities is beyond me the main places which need w-empowerment is backward areas and areas where education is low

but women empowered are already empowered in most cases (my opinions)

And what is the definition of empowerment anyway? 33% quota in LS-RS, this is empowerment?
This is the same kind of a marriage he ran away from in his youth.

 

[FalconSlayers]

And what is the definition of empowerment anyway? 33% quota in LS-RS, this is empowerment?
This is the same kind of a marriage he ran away from in his youth.

Empowerment basically means votebank politics. You "empower someone" in lieu for votes, not as some sort of societal reforms.

 

[spikey360]

Empowerment basically means votebank politics. You "empower someone" in lieu for votes, not as some sort of societal reforms.

It is odd that women, who consider themselves as equals need a different kind of empowering as opposed to men.
So education is not empowering enough these days?

Anyone read Pygmalion? This whole feminism thing and its aftereffects had been deftly predicted by GB Shaw long long ago.

 

[Nutcracker]

I just came across this old video through a reaction channel.
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We all were discussing how girls are getting doles by big tech; they are getting over representation in job recruitment drive because of DEI. Foreign FAANG etc just have to throw 20K -30k$ total in 3-4 years to keep them onboard and then dump them. "Empowered" woman will be left with experience of Disco pub polyamory , 10-12 lakh in bank, and a sense of fake Pride of empowerment will be etched in their brain; making them worthless for the marriage. Just 20B$ for them and destruction of 1Million prospective Indian families.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iurnkH5Os58

 

[Nutcracker]

there was a thread on Japan at good ol' D F I where i put many things regd japs and goreans too, also on that ever famous Firangistan thread; but it all got purged as the good ol' phorum got put in freezer

Get URL from your history , I dont have Jap thread link , use wayback machine to dig some gold if something is saved there.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://twitter.com/JokerOf_India/status/1826200414858985930

 

[Magadha Naresh]

View: https://twitter.com/JokerOf_India/status/1826200414858985930

The lawyers face is so punchable

 

[Magadha Naresh]

I did not meant judge , she is a virtuous woman

 

[GaudaNaresh]

i'd like to enhance upon this,
the thing with modern era women is, they have their first 'marriage' with 'the state' itself which is making sure they get all the chances at upliftment in name of education, employment opportunities and protection via laws and its implementation through machinery...this kind of environment is necessary for the gender equality that 'the state' is so insistent in bringing out;
however we are seeing the usual 'give them an inch, and they'll take a mile' happening with same; without any checks and balances over FEAR of local and international criticism at least and muh psyops at worst







Reminder,
IT'S NOT THAT WOMEN EARNED IT ALL THROUGH THEIR MOVEMENTS ANYWHERE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CASE OF SOME STRATRA OF 'STRONG MEN*' GIVING OUT TO THEIR (SOMETIMES OUTRAGEOUS) DEMANDS BY SKEWING THE ENTIRE 'GAME' ON THEIR SIDE AND EVENTUALLY RUINING IT FOR NORMAL MEN

*strong men, not necessarily in physical sense but men with position and power of any kind

I recently coined this phrase in some teligram spaces that if things continue to go same way, we shall see it happening that, "INDIA BANEGA JAPAN" - a hyperconsumerist society where despite muh patriarchal setup of basic marriage and family notions actual 'beneficiary' are women; they are fully hypergamous to extent of dragging their own kin to extinction, adultery is RATHER A NORM, society is apathetic to pleas and suffering of the disenfranchised, worst of all these women are so backed by entire state machinery with ~99 percent conviction rate means any minor offence and your life is practically over, what was left was ruined by ever prevalent 'mehengaai' and inflation there, so even if you have a chance at life with somewhat saner woman to start a family it's almost impossible to attempt - unless you both have bank balance to put behind raising a child

in Japan, those men who received these kind of 'kicks' on their guts end up turning alcoholic, or hypermaterialist thinking why bother with family and life when 'returns' at it are so marginal at best; all their hikkimori ('shut-in' homestaying) and otaku culture that's so shunned down upon by others is result of ruined socioeconomical dynamics; and every form of societal interaction et al is hypercommercialised (that thing of 'girlfriend for hire' and what not, so you can just have a chance to go out with a girl if you feel like it )

and this isn't only japan, even china is going same path nowadays; but unlike japs these chinese are ruthless when push comes to shove, there was a news somewhere that nowadays 'human trafficking' of women and outright selling of them to disenfranchised men who simply want wives is becoming an emerging mess in their rural areas; and their police is mostly 'forced' to turn a blind eye at these things over various reasons

so yeah, we are at that crossroads where hypergamy due to all reasons is taking over, and only some strata of 'strong men' are able to get that kind of fulfilment in their lives while most of the womenfolk is simply drugged in their minds with all feminism and all

last but not least,
age of marriage during post '47 India till at least early 70 here was 16; which was raised to 18 for both sexes and then raised to 21 for men in late 80s i think (need to check dates) - all of that got supplemented by education for women for muh literacy rates or whatever; now two-three generation down with similar outdated education system that keeps young emerging people closeted inside chaar diwaare of classrooms for good 10+ hours a day has further ostracised them from basic interactions with womenfolk while the other party is...mostly indifferent or pursuing things for employment or muh 'freedumb' or whatever reasons...long run me we're seeing birthrates dropping below replacement levels in many states here

BUT but, who is at the blame ultimately? There was a nice twitter poster somewhere, a lady living in korea, she pointed out that when SoKorea was getting their prosperity times with rise of economy their society was given an option, whether to preserve 'honour' of their womenfolk by keeping them in traditional family system or allowing them to go into workforce for kamaai...it was obvious that most opted for second option and long result is already apparent there - and frankly you can see it happening almost everywhere

^so yeah, feminism is just one facet of this entire complex scenario, there are so many things behind whatever we are seeing happening here, and we are still at beginning stage of it, all i can say to my brethren here is to brace for more impacts

There are two main drivers for and against polygamy. Most men want to fuck as many women as possible but only elite men have the ability to run a harem ( where you fuck many women AND support the numerous kids you pop out).
Most evolutionary biologists believe that Islamic style polygamy but for elites is the original mating system of humans, as we have far greater diversity of older mtDNA ( clone we get from mother) that is older than 30,000-40,000 years but very few y-chromosomal DNA ( you get from your dad) that are that old.
Which is only possible in the Islamist polygamy model -if a few elite men hog all the women, the male genetic diversity goes down the toilet, while the female ones survive ( this may be the reason why y-chromosome is slowly dying in humans and is far less varied than x-chromosome).


The force AGAINST polygamy, are, ironically, women and the not elite men.
For not elite men, its pretty straightforward - we wanna pass along our genes and we dont want one dude to hog 100 women to make 100 copies of his genes.
Why are women against polygamy, especially when the same elite men give them what they want the most- luxury and safe life ? Not 'muh HYOOMAN RIGHTS'.

Its because of OTHER women in the harem. Ever wonder why we Indians transitioned from harem of the Magadh empire days (where chandragupta, ashoka, everyone had 100s of women wives) to the gupta period of 1-3 wives max ( exclusively for alliances) and then straight down to 1 wife even for king ?

Its because women are extremely motivated to harm infants and babies who pose a threat to THEIR babies. Read about the Mughal, Ottoman, etc. harems that survived till relatively modern times and the answer is clear- if you are isloo rajaputra, your chances of dying due to harem politics of one of your father's many concubines is astronomically higher than you dying in battle or later on your brother killing you in civil war as adults while your dad is old dying man.

So women actually do not prefer elite male polygamy, because their progeny are at risk from the OTHER women in the polygamy circle.

But the woman's motivation of rejecting polygamy EXCLUSIVELY revolves around the threats to her kids.
If you remove kids from the equation, BOOM, women now want elitist polygamy, because they get the benefits ( rich, privileged secure life) without the risks ( muh baby is gonna be murdered by that skank over there so her baby can become next king, coz we dont want babies).

THIS is the reason elitist men have slowly but silently pushed women's liberation and hypersexualisation of women, with constant barrage of anti-family message. Because this is the only way ( childless coupling) where you can sustain elitist polygamy without 12/15 of your kids dying before they are 10 coz they 'ate something bad/fell off a horse/suddenly drowned while taking a bath, choked on a rosgolla' etc.

So you can argue 'but elitist men still wanna pass their genes mostly, so how do THEY get to do this in this model' ?
Simple - with modern technology, you can have your cake and eat it too - get a harem of 100 women, of which 99 are your fuck slaves, while there is 1 that you will breed with and you only need to make 2-3 kids to pass ur genes successfully coz infant & child mortality rates have hit practically zero compared to pre-modern times.

THIS is the game that is being played. And most women are completely unaware of this.

 

[SlayingHell]

why do you need empowerment in cities is beyond me the main places which need w-empowerment is backward areas and areas where education is low

but women empowered are already empowered in most cases (my opinions)

Empowerment is needed in STEM. See Women Scientists in ISRO or DRDO(less horny unkuls) who don't put this "Muh Feminism" attitude. But all we got is Liberal& Humanities who are always on the Wrong Path. Their contribution is 0 to Nation Building and it is these type of idiots that make the most Noise and dominate the "Feminist" circles because the real Feminists are working hard for Nation. Its always these Non-STEM, Film, Bollywoodia, Social Media Thots and Celebrities dominating the spaces.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Empowerment is needed in STEM. See Women Scientists in ISRO or DRDO(less horny unkuls) who don't put this "Muh Feminism" attitude. But all we got is Liberal& Humanities who are always on the Wrong Path. Their contribution is 0 to Nation Building and it is these type of idiots that make the most Noise and dominate the "Feminist" circles because the real Feminists are working hard for Nation. Its always these Non-STEM, Film, Bollywoodia, Social Media Thots and Celebrities dominating the spaces.

That is because non-STEM the world over has always had the lowest IQ people amongst the educated ones get in it. Ever since uni became a thing, its always been first priority engineer/doc, 2nd priority pure sciences/bussiness management and only last priority for arts.

Arts grads wont ever say it, but they all acutely feel the distress of dropping 100K on an education that got them a paper but no actual real life working skills, unless they wanna slog another 5-7 years, drop another 100K and become professors/teachers.