Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Please refrain from giving excess attention to Foreign RW and engagement farming twitter posts.

This thread should solely revolve around the development at our border.

I will be deleting a few posts now.

Check IP also of ((( new members ))) who only bhosdapill in this thread
Like the recent pilla of Cheeni abba
 
I have always had two concerns with an actual war.

Once the cost escalates, Indians will start crying and demanding ceasefire.

China will not miss the opportunity to roll in and capture more land.

Im not so bothered about the 0.5 front as it could be q good opportunity to neuter them.
With regards to your first concern, I share it too. But this time, the public emotion is running higher than before. Moreover, India will be able to draw international support to manage the economic ramifications of a War.
Your second concern would be generally true, but in the current geopolitical scenario, China doesn't want to sour relations with India in the wake of Trump's tariff War.
 
Your overestimate Indians and underestimate China.

There is no reason for China to not take advantage in case of any serious conflict.

I'm not arguing to not invade Porkland but be ready for all situations.

If you are trying to be a realist then here is a reality for you. Like before this attack, we were not focussed on porkies and kept an eye on China, similarly China doesn't factor us in and cares more about USA.

They are looking to emerge as the global superpower and a fight will India, no matter how costly for us, will leave them with a broken bloody nose as well. And poof goes all dreams of replacing USA.

If people are worried about our economy tanking in the aftermath of this porki war, what do you think will happen to China's economy after a war with India?

Also, re-unification of Taiwan is more important to them than solving whatever border issues we have. That's small peanuts in their larger national scheme of things. They poke us occasionally to drain our resources, test us, or divert us from the west but I don't see any logical reason why they will fight us as of today.

China will stay mum, or help porkies behind the scenes. No way they are meddling directly any which way.
 
With regards to your first concern, I share it too. But this time, the public emotion is running higher than before. Moreover, India will be able to draw international support to manage the economic ramifications of a War.
Your second concern would be generally true, but in the current geopolitical scenario, China doesn't want to sour relations with India in the wake of Trump's tariff War.

Obviously the emotions are high right now. The question is will it sustain in the case of a sustained conflict.

Let's be real, for any US support, we will need to make concessions in the trade deal. China has every incentive to try and pressureize us for preventing trade deal with the US. The only tool they really have is threat of taking advantage of us being involved in a conflict on the western front.

No one knows for certain, my point is merely it's prudent to be aware and prepared.
 
If you are trying to be a realist then here is a reality for you. Like before this attack, we were not focussed on porkies and kept an eye on China, similarly China doesn't factor us in and cares more about USA.

They are looking to emerge as the global superpower and a fight will India, no matter how costly for us, will leave them with a broken bloody nose as well. And poof goes all dreams of replacing USA.

If people are worried about our economy tanking in the aftermath of this porki war, what do you think will happen to China's economy after a war with India?

Also, re-unification of Taiwan is more important to them than solving whatever border issues we have. That's small peanuts in their larger national scheme of things. They poke us occasionally to drain our resources, test us, or divert us from the west but I don't see any logical reason why they will fight us as of today.

China will stay mum, or help porkies behind the scenes. No way they are meddling directly any which way.

I would largely agree in case our attention was solely focused on China. If we go for an actual invasion of PoK, that will not be the case.

It will be cost benefit analysis of how much China will need to lose to gain more Indian territory.

The question is not of cost to China, its of the potential cost of us.

Are we ok potentially losing more land in the east to gain PoK back?

What's our plan in case China does try mischief while we are focused on Porkland?

Do we have enough for both fronts?

I have never gotten a clear answer to this.
 
I would largely agree in case our attention was solely focused on China. If we go for an actual invasion of PoK, that will not be the case.

It will be cost benefit analysis of how much China will need to lose to gain more Indian territory.

The question is not of cost to China, its of the potential cost of us.

Are we ok potentially losing more land in the east to gain PoK back?

What's our plan in case China does try mischief while we are focused on Porkland?

Do we have enough for both fronts?

I have never gotten a clear answer to this.

Decision paralysis
 
Also, re-unification of Taiwan is more important to them than solving whatever border issues we have. That's small peanuts in their larger national scheme of things. They poke us occasionally to drain our resources, test us, or divert us from the west but I don't see any logical reason why they will fight us as of today.

China will stay mum, or help porkies behind the scenes. No way they are meddling directly any which way.

Yes, Taiwan is their Numba Wan goal and after it is removing US from Japan, SoKo and Pinoypines

Those peddling "Cheeni abba will come to save Pakistan inshallah" are literally piglets pretending to be indians, piglets who never left or librandus high on some substance
 
Someone had posted about a DRDO test bed plane flying near Kashmir.

Maybe some kind of testing was a success?

It's only some of them. Many are still against India and posting anti-India stuff.
It must be because of Indian H1- B workers, Indian immigrants plus outsourcing of jobs to India. Indians are getting more noticeable in many places.
 
India will go kinetic this time. I can sense it in the air. India will secure US support, keeping China at bay. It's 1971 redux.

In 71, Soviet Union didn't only help with the US/UK but keeping China back.

Can we rely on Russia today? Is it even able to?

Decision paralysis

Not really, all this should have been war gamed years ago. We don't know what plans are in place as per today's reality.

As the leader of a nation, can you go in for a major conflict without considering all scenarios?

We are merely discussing with the info in public domain. It has no impact on what the leaders will decide.

However, dismissing the China factory completely seems silly to me.
 
Nobody in the air force says there was a miss. The evidence there was a success were the holes in the ceiling of the terror facility.
Let me add the link to the article ( from Praveen Swami’s article above) that analyses how and why IAF missed those targets.
 
Don't give vote & let the nation's enemy win.
Very climatic & misplaced! Sad of what happened but she's talking like the govt has made deals with the killer or something.
Govt isn't your personal bodyguard. Sometimes others have accountability as well.
As usual Indians are very deficient to understand the real problems.
Well went cant fathom her grief , one stupid thing the media and political class has to seriously do is visiting the families the very next day come on man give them some time , i know opposition will cry saying Govt didn't visit but then emotions are so high its always better to avoid visiting them . i was seeing the video of indian navy officer father in haridwar dropping the ashes in ganga . come on its private moment you don't need to capture it and use it for your emotional propaganda , you have the videos of the head shot that is enough to run the story till you strike .

you remember even on Feb 27th 2019 when politician visited the IAF chopper crash personnel funeral his wife also shouted same i don't need your visit i need my husband back you killed him for your elections .. few TVs captured it and used it against White beard Gandalf and he scrapped through the election luckily .
 
Can members use brain and stop posting old news again and again. Already 30% of the content is recycled old news.

1. Stop posting baba banaras post.
2. Stop posting some random influenza or feminazi opinion from Twitter. (none of them useful for nation)
3. Stop posting about DRDO threads.
4. Kindly post the official MEA, HM and Armed forces related accounts news only.
5. Kindly post relevant post related GO passed in border states bordering Pakistan.
6. Stop whining like idiot.
 
Don't give vote & let the nation's enemy win.
Very climatic & misplaced! Sad of what happened but she's talking like the govt has made deals with the killer or something.
Govt isn't your personal bodyguard. Sometimes others have accountability as well.
As usual Indians are very deficient to understand the real problems.
she will itself come and vote in 2019 , if the govt address her future concerns like funding her kids education and assuring a medical seat or engineering seat in some CM or MP Quota .. Right now she is not in a mind to think anything sensible ..
 
In 71, Soviet Union didn't only help with the US/UK but keeping China back.

Can we rely on Russia today? Is it even able to?
You overestimate the role Soviet Union played.. Neither the US/UK nor the Soviet's were serious about entering the 1971 war.. It was just posturing..
Hell.. China didn't even agree to amass a few divisions of troops on India border for posturing, when US begged it to do so..

Now, hundreds of thousands of Indian / Chinese troops are already amassed.. China will have to act, not just posture.. And they might act if India makes any major incursion into POK threatening to cut off CPEC..
 

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