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Do you think a Military response going to happen?.

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username unkown said:
Lol check my previous msg on this thread and this msg you quoted nothing suggest i am paki lover
Bjp it cells are doing low iq stuff calling them out doesn't make me paki lover
I prefer we retaliate to porks in winter let pakistani be in state of high alert and as soon as thier guard is down we bite them
But if someone believe pak will collapse without firing single bullet is stupid or ignorant pakistani will collapse only with war with India as Indian victory
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How dare you disrespect an armchair Major General?

How dare you.
 
Prasad said:
On one hand you want these things done,
on another you call them stunts.

Like I state, few people are absolutely seething in anger with all these actions of BJP against Pakis.

Wonder why so many are hurt when pakis are getting hurt.
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There's a restaurant who keeps saying to visit them whenever I'm hungry because they'll feed me well. One day I am hungry, forgot lunch so I went to there. They charged me full plate and gave me (1) grain of rice.

Technically, they gave me food, fed me.
Contextually, I got scammed, and duped. That (1)grain technically fills me (by 0.0011%) but isn't much use when I'm hungry.

When complaining, people who like the restaurant say others would have given me 1/2 a grain so I should be happy and content. But I didn't go to other restaurants, I went to this one.
 
Sanglamorre said:
There's a restaurant who keeps saying to visit them whenever I'm hungry because they'll feed me well. One day I am hungry, forgot lunch so I went to there. They charged me full plate and gave me (1) grain of rice.

Technically, they gave me food, fed me.
Contextually, I got scammed, and duped. That (1)grain technically fills me (by 0.0011%) but isn't much use when I'm hungry.

When complaining, people who like the restaurant say others would have given me 1/2 a grain so I should be happy and content. But I didn't go to other restaurants, I went to this one.
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The established policy of the Congress party as well as our foreign policy establishment was people to people contact in the hope that our progress will be seen by enough Paxtanis to convince people back home that better trade & people to people ties was the way forward to gradually improve Indo Pak ties.

You can go to You Tube & you'd see ample examples of dinosaurs of our foreign policy establishment now doddering around who still espouse such views.

It doesn't take a genius to understand who those people to people contact would benefit & as if on cue now comes news to show what came out of those people to people contacts . We're seeing Indian Muslim women who've retained their Indian citizenship while remaining married to men from across the border & breeding like pigs.

GoI can't ban such marriages as it'd be struck down by the courts on grounds of infringement of fundamental rights. At the same time keeping track of every such marriage is impossible for once again any legislative attempt to list such marriages will be called religious profiling & once again will be likely struck down by the courts.

So what's the solution ? Keep communication down to the absolute minimum . Make it difficult to obtain Indian visas . Make an example out of such women who are stranded here such that others reconsider plans of marriages across the border . Keep hitting people to people contact by closing all avenues. Strike down trade . Keep picking all those low hanging fruits till there are none left .

And as far as retribution in kinetic terms go , let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.

An apocryphal story goes when a Pashtun was asked about generational vendetta he opined 100 years is too soon. And this is a certified illiterate goat phucker we're talking about.
 
Azaad said:
The established policy of the Congress party as well as our foreign policy establishment was people to people contact in the hope that our progress will be seen by enough Paxtanis to convince people back home that better trade & people to people ties was the way forward to gradually improve Indo Pak ties.

You can go to You Tube & you'd see ample examples of dinosaurs of our foreign policy establishment now doddering around who still espouse such views.

It doesn't take a genius to understand who those people to people contact would benefit & as if on cue now comes news to show what came out of those people to people contacts . We're seeing Indian Muslim women who've retained their Indian citizenship while remaining married to men from across the border & breeding like pigs.

GoI can't ban such marriages as it'd be struck down by the courts on grounds of infringement of fundamental rights. At the same time keeping track of every such marriage is impossible for once again any legislative attempt to list such marriages will be called religious profiling & once again will be likely struck down by the courts.

So what's the solution ? Keep communication down to the absolute minimum . Make it difficult to obtain Indian visas . Make an example out of such women who are stranded here such that others reconsider plans of marriages across the border . Keep hitting people to people contact by closing all avenues. Strike down trade . Keep picking all those low hanging fruits till there are none left .

And as far as retribution in kinetic terms go , let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.
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GOI should bring in a law to tackle such marriages. One may be having fundamental right for cross border marriages, but the law should state, the moment you marry an immediate western border person (male or female), you will loose your indian citizenship + all benefits you are otherwise entitled to avail. Let them make hue and cry. Citizenship is for govt to grant, not the courts.
 
GaudaNaresh said:
No, this attitude is called war posturing. As he noted and you conviniently avoided, India planned over six months for war with pakis in 1971.
Tell us what you want - you want a bigger balakot or a serious war. That will make the discussion a lot less cumbersome, as once you are clear on your goals, perspective become clearer.

You want balakot part-2 ? Fine. naacho. cheekho. Aur bolo bhagwaan bharose.
You want 1971 and katua-stan to get another circumcision ? then chup kar baith jao, wait till December and if then nothing happens, FIR naacho aur modi ko gaali do.
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You are just spineless coward bunch. If this was attitude why did govt made war posturing?
Why everyone WA’s saying wait for a day . Kal dekhna parso dekhna.

Then they put whole load on army. Ye log karenge bhai tum kya meeting kar rahe they. People want a swift action specially when whole opposition army corporate artist businessmen. Every one supporting the government.
 
Azaad said:
let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.
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You're right, I haven't. I have only heard the one about Revenge being a dish best served cold.

If we're talking about long running vengeance and what not, I'm sure some of the crimes by Pakistan have had enough time elapsed so as to be considered for cold revenge. Can't be forever waiting for generations.
 
Arkanoid said:
GOI should bring in a law to tackle such marriages. One may be having fundamental right for cross border marriages, but the law should state, the moment you marry an immediate western border person (male or female), you will loose your indian citizenship + all benefits you are otherwise entitled to avail. Let them make hue and cry. Citizenship is for govt to grant, not the courts.
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I've checked with people in the field of law . It won't pass judicial review. Besides how will you implement it ? It boils down to declaration. The women wouldn't declare the marriage , keep coming here to deliver her children & keep mum about their marital status & the father.

However , there's a law which states that if a parent is from Paxtan or BD , citizenship isn't automatically conferred on such a person even if residential rights are permitted.

OTOH the judiciary has made it possible for a birth certificate to be issued without the father's name on it. That should make the child eligible for Indian citizenship .

However if it is proved that the father is a Paxtani then it amounts to getting citizenship thru fraudulent means which in turn can result in immediate rescinding of the citizenship & deportation.

A very good example of this is Atish Taseer son of Tavleen Singh & Salman Taseer.

However he's a celebrity of some sort so he was easily targeted & mission accomplished . Do you actually think the Indian state has enough resources to track every such case & if need be then go through lengthy judicial proceedings to uphold their decision ?
 
Sanglamorre said:
You're right, I haven't. I have only heard the one about Revenge being a dish best served cold.
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Good. Then what are you grumbling about ? It'd be served cold & tasted accordingly.
Sanglamorre said:
If we're talking about long running vengeance and what not, I'm sure some of the crimes by Pakistan have had enough time elapsed so as to be considered for cold revenge. Can't be forever waiting for generations.
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It's actually been 1300 years if you want to refer to timescales.

As far as this particular incident goes I've written earlier if Modi wanted optics he could've targeted any one or more of those religious seminaries / training centres , this time captured on 4k resolution to be broadcast all across the world in gory detail , that everyone & their dogs knew are being used to propagate terrorism in various forms except that the goat phuckers there are all long gone , likely just before the massacre happened.

We'd still see a few casualties here & there likely bye standers or low level functionaries , grunts ... that sort of thing .

Would that have satiated your blood lust ?
 
Azaad said:
Good. Then what are you grumbling about ? It'd be served cold & tasted accordingly.

It's actually been 1300 years if you want to refer to timescales.

As far as this particular incident goes I've written earlier if Modi wanted optics he could've targeted any one or more of those religious seminaries / training centres , this time captured on 4k resolution to be broadcast all across the world in gory detail , that everyone & their dogs knew are being used to propagate terrorism in various forms except that the goat phuckers there are all long gone , likely just before the massacre happened.

We'd still see a few casualties here & there likely bye standers or low level functionaries , grunts ... that sort of thing .

Would that have satiated your blood lust ?
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We aren't looking for revenge here are we? We're looking for revenge+incentive for this behaviour to not happen again.

For that, hitting some empty shacks won't be enough. People keep trying to rationalize literal execution of citizens on their own soil as something that doesn't require outside response that results in crippling amount of deaths.

1400 years is a fight between Hindus and Muslims, not India and Pakistan. It is India that has a military, not Hindus, so can't expect the longer fight to continue right now.
 
Azaad said:
And as far as retribution in kinetic terms go , let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.

An apocryphal story goes when a Pashtun was asked about generational vendetta he opined 100 years is too soon. And this is a certified illiterate goat phucker we're talking about.
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Most are worried that will the Pakis be served this dish if at all.

And no, appetizers delivered by TTP and Balochi doesn't count.

I would prefer the dish best served cold retaliation

For now they are all fired up and doing exercises, eventually out of kangali or "kuch nhi hoga" they will get complacent.

Then, hopefully during night your plan is implemented of hitting PN and PAF assets
I want in addition their karachi port and any oil storage facilities to also be hit
Then we call a unilateral Cease Fire after fighting any Swift Retreats they may manage.
See if they're willing to de-escalate or not
This should be a punitive strike with small land-grabs of daggers and bulges across the LoC and IB

Shame and humiliation of the Fauji Foundation is the primarily goal, destruction of their assets is secondary.


There are no consequences for inaction so this would be purely on Leaderji's pleasure if he wishes to do so.
 
Sanglamorre said:
We aren't looking for revenge here are we? We're looking for revenge+incentive for this behaviour to not happen again.
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You're not going to prevent them from repeating this behaviour. I mean I'm really amazed that a person with your intellect is actually posing this question. When has the PA not lost a war & when has it ever affected their overall prospects ? In fact they've returned stronger after every such misadventure .

I won't even refer to their eternal shame going all the way back to 1971. Let's consider something more recent. The most recent example is Kargil . PA perpetrated it . Their PM went on his knees to Washington to bail them out & was promptly dethroned in a coup for all his pains. It's his good fortune he survived coz talks going around then was he'd be made into another Bhutto.

Sanglamorre said:
For that, hitting some empty shacks won't be enough. People keep trying to rationalize literal execution of citizens on their own soil as something that doesn't require outside response that results in crippling amount of deaths.
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For that to happen do you or do you not agree then that some amount of preparation is needed ? Now the quantum of that preparation will entirely be determined by the quality of our response. But logic dictates the longer the wait the more severe the response .
Sanglamorre said:
1400 years is a fight between Hindus and Muslims, not India and Pakistan.
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Really ? You're saying this even after Asim Munir's now infamous speech ?

Are you telling me the umbilical cord was severed during partition ? That what happens in one country usually stays there especially as far as Hindu Muslim relations go.

Do explain why the jokers in the MEA raised objections to the killings of Hindus in BD recently or the reason we intervened in what was then East Pakistan in 1971 .
Sanglamorre said:
It is India that has a military, not Hindus, so can't expect the longer fight to continue right now.
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Answered this one above.
 
Azaad said:
I've checked with people in the field of law . It won't pass judicial review. Besides how will you implement it ? It boils down to declaration. The women wouldn't declare the marriage , keep coming here to deliver her children & keep mum about their marital status & the father.

However , there's a law which states that if a parent is from Paxtan or BD , citizenship isn't automatically conferred on such a person even if residential rights are permitted.

OTOH the judiciary has made it possible for a birth certificate to be issued without the father's name on it. That should make the child eligible for Indian citizenship .

However if it is proved that the father is a Paxtani then it amounts to getting citizenship thru fraudulent means which in turn can result in immediate rescinding of the citizenship & deportation.

A very good example of this is Atish Taseer son of Tavleen Singh & Salman Taseer.

However he's a celebrity of some sort so he was easily targeted & mission accomplished . Do you actually think the Indian state has enough resources to track every such case & if need be then go through lengthy judicial proceedings to uphold their decision ?
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