No, the point is that these measures (like permanently suspending trade, closing borders, etc.) should've been done long ago during Uri or Pulwama.
These stunts cannot be considered as the sole response when 26 Hindu citizens are shot down.
Anyway, I still believe we will see some tangible military action (maybe this month, maybe in the winter).
How dare you disrespect an armchair Major General?Lol check my previous msg on this thread and this msg you quoted nothing suggest i am paki lover
Bjp it cells are doing low iq stuff calling them out doesn't make me paki lover
I prefer we retaliate to porks in winter let pakistani be in state of high alert and as soon as thier guard is down we bite them
But if someone believe pak will collapse without firing single bullet is stupid or ignorant pakistani will collapse only with war with India as Indian victory
There's a restaurant who keeps saying to visit them whenever I'm hungry because they'll feed me well. One day I am hungry, forgot lunch so I went to there. They charged me full plate and gave me (1) grain of rice.On one hand you want these things done,
on another you call them stunts.
Like I state, few people are absolutely seething in anger with all these actions of BJP against Pakis.
Wonder why so many are hurt when pakis are getting hurt.
The established policy of the Congress party as well as our foreign policy establishment was people to people contact in the hope that our progress will be seen by enough Paxtanis to convince people back home that better trade & people to people ties was the way forward to gradually improve Indo Pak ties.There's a restaurant who keeps saying to visit them whenever I'm hungry because they'll feed me well. One day I am hungry, forgot lunch so I went to there. They charged me full plate and gave me (1) grain of rice.
Technically, they gave me food, fed me.
Contextually, I got scammed, and duped. That (1)grain technically fills me (by 0.0011%) but isn't much use when I'm hungry.
When complaining, people who like the restaurant say others would have given me 1/2 a grain so I should be happy and content. But I didn't go to other restaurants, I went to this one.
GOI should bring in a law to tackle such marriages. One may be having fundamental right for cross border marriages, but the law should state, the moment you marry an immediate western border person (male or female), you will loose your indian citizenship + all benefits you are otherwise entitled to avail. Let them make hue and cry. Citizenship is for govt to grant, not the courts.The established policy of the Congress party as well as our foreign policy establishment was people to people contact in the hope that our progress will be seen by enough Paxtanis to convince people back home that better trade & people to people ties was the way forward to gradually improve Indo Pak ties.
You can go to You Tube & you'd see ample examples of dinosaurs of our foreign policy establishment now doddering around who still espouse such views.
It doesn't take a genius to understand who those people to people contact would benefit & as if on cue now comes news to show what came out of those people to people contacts . We're seeing Indian Muslim women who've retained their Indian citizenship while remaining married to men from across the border & breeding like pigs.
GoI can't ban such marriages as it'd be struck down by the courts on grounds of infringement of fundamental rights. At the same time keeping track of every such marriage is impossible for once again any legislative attempt to list such marriages will be called religious profiling & once again will be likely struck down by the courts.
So what's the solution ? Keep communication down to the absolute minimum . Make it difficult to obtain Indian visas . Make an example out of such women who are stranded here such that others reconsider plans of marriages across the border . Keep hitting people to people contact by closing all avenues. Strike down trade . Keep picking all those low hanging fruits till there are none left .
And as far as retribution in kinetic terms go , let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.
You are just spineless coward bunch. If this was attitude why did govt made war posturing?No, this attitude is called war posturing. As he noted and you conviniently avoided, India planned over six months for war with pakis in 1971.
Tell us what you want - you want a bigger balakot or a serious war. That will make the discussion a lot less cumbersome, as once you are clear on your goals, perspective become clearer.
You want balakot part-2 ? Fine. naacho. cheekho. Aur bolo bhagwaan bharose.
You want 1971 and katua-stan to get another circumcision ? then chup kar baith jao, wait till December and if then nothing happens, FIR naacho aur modi ko gaali do.
You're right, I haven't. I have only heard the one about Revenge being a dish best served cold.let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.
I've checked with people in the field of law . It won't pass judicial review. Besides how will you implement it ? It boils down to declaration. The women wouldn't declare the marriage , keep coming here to deliver her children & keep mum about their marital status & the father.GOI should bring in a law to tackle such marriages. One may be having fundamental right for cross border marriages, but the law should state, the moment you marry an immediate western border person (male or female), you will loose your indian citizenship + all benefits you are otherwise entitled to avail. Let them make hue and cry. Citizenship is for govt to grant, not the courts.
Good. Then what are you grumbling about ? It'd be served cold & tasted accordingly.You're right, I haven't. I have only heard the one about Revenge being a dish best served cold.
It's actually been 1300 years if you want to refer to timescales.If we're talking about long running vengeance and what not, I'm sure some of the crimes by Pakistan have had enough time elapsed so as to be considered for cold revenge. Can't be forever waiting for generations.
We aren't looking for revenge here are we? We're looking for revenge+incentive for this behaviour to not happen again.Good. Then what are you grumbling about ? It'd be served cold & tasted accordingly.
It's actually been 1300 years if you want to refer to timescales.
As far as this particular incident goes I've written earlier if Modi wanted optics he could've targeted any one or more of those religious seminaries / training centres , this time captured on 4k resolution to be broadcast all across the world in gory detail , that everyone & their dogs knew are being used to propagate terrorism in various forms except that the goat phuckers there are all long gone , likely just before the massacre happened.
We'd still see a few casualties here & there likely bye standers or low level functionaries , grunts ... that sort of thing .
Would that have satiated your blood lust ?
And as far as retribution in kinetic terms go , let me guess , you haven't come across the p̶h̶r̶a̶s̶e̶ axiom - Revenge is dish best tasted cold. Ever . I'm willing to bet my last penny on it.
An apocryphal story goes when a Pashtun was asked about generational vendetta he opined 100 years is too soon. And this is a certified illiterate goat phucker we're talking about.
You're not going to prevent them from repeating this behaviour. I mean I'm really amazed that a person with your intellect is actually posing this question. When has the PA not lost a war & when has it ever affected their overall prospects ? In fact they've returned stronger after every such misadventure .We aren't looking for revenge here are we? We're looking for revenge+incentive for this behaviour to not happen again.
For that to happen do you or do you not agree then that some amount of preparation is needed ? Now the quantum of that preparation will entirely be determined by the quality of our response. But logic dictates the longer the wait the more severe the response .For that, hitting some empty shacks won't be enough. People keep trying to rationalize literal execution of citizens on their own soil as something that doesn't require outside response that results in crippling amount of deaths.
Really ? You're saying this even after Asim Munir's now infamous speech ?1400 years is a fight between Hindus and Muslims, not India and Pakistan.
Answered this one above.It is India that has a military, not Hindus, so can't expect the longer fight to continue right now.
I've checked with people in the field of law . It won't pass judicial review. Besides how will you implement it ? It boils down to declaration. The women wouldn't declare the marriage , keep coming here to deliver her children & keep mum about their marital status & the father.
However , there's a law which states that if a parent is from Paxtan or BD , citizenship isn't automatically conferred on such a person even if residential rights are permitted.
OTOH the judiciary has made it possible for a birth certificate to be issued without the father's name on it. That should make the child eligible for Indian citizenship .
However if it is proved that the father is a Paxtani then it amounts to getting citizenship thru fraudulent means which in turn can result in immediate rescinding of the citizenship & deportation.
A very good example of this is Atish Taseer son of Tavleen Singh & Salman Taseer.
However he's a celebrity of some sort so he was easily targeted & mission accomplished . Do you actually think the Indian state has enough resources to track every such case & if need be then go through lengthy judicial proceedings to uphold their decision ?