Russian Ukrainian War

I don't see the war ending. It's just creating information noise and the US stopping sponsorship. The financial burden will be redistributed to Europe and we will have more Turkish shells because Europe has money but few weapons. A 155mm shell from Turkey is cheaper than one from the US.
I can see why Blackrock wants this war to end. If Ukraine loses most of it's territory they are going to lose their contracts to rebuild. It's getting very complex. However I don't see why Putin should end the war because they are going to win big time. I don't trust Trump and if I don't why should Putin? Brian B. from the new Atlas had a very interesting take on all of this. Russia's military complex and it's oligarchs don't want this war to end because there is big money to be made. We only talk about western military profits.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgjIok4Cfk&t=246s
 
I can see why Blackrock wants this war to end. If Ukraine loses most of it's territory they are going to lose their contracts to rebuild. It's getting very complex. However I don't see why Putin should end the war because they are going to win big time. I don't trust Trump and if I don't why should Putin? Brian B. from the new Atlas had a very interesting take on all of this. Russia's military complex and it's oligarchs don't want this war to end because there is big money to be made. We only talk about western military profits.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgjIok4Cfk&t=246s

Name at least one private military enterprise in Russia? Stop transposing your American view onto others. This is exactly why Vence was sent to ass when he decided to teach Europe.
 
Footage of an attack by Russian VT-40 FPV drones, controlled via fiber optic cable, on a Ukrainian Leopard 1A5 tank. The video was filmed in the Kursk region of Russia, near the village of Novosergeevka. The Leopard 1A5 tank was created in Germany in 1987, it is a modernization of the first Leopard-1 tank. The Leopard 1A5 tank is maneuverable, it weighs 42.2 tons. But it has thin armor, in Germany it was decommissioned in 2010. The Leopard 1A5 tank was attacked by two Russian FPV drones.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9do9Mg6DkKU
 
Name at least one private military enterprise in Russia? Stop transposing your American view onto others. This is exactly why Vence was sent to ass when he decided to teach Europe.
"Stop transposing my view"? or what? You will report me for stating my views? Well I'm scared now. You think you're some expert on Russia, but if you Ukrainians knew so much, why did it surprise you that Russia attacked? The only thing that surprised me was how long it took. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The big defense companies in the US are all publicly traded companies. There isn't much difference between a private company and one that is traded on the stock exchange. Both are run by multi millionaires and billionaires.
 
.trump should make a deal with zelensky , allow him to continue as president
.he will inturn agree to ceasefire and frozen border
. Europe and uk while try to be seen as important they will largely be iconsequential, unless possibly one of the European leader sticks his neck out to face wrath of trump the great
.whatever putin wants zelenzky could have avoided the bloodshed, or more importantly,people should have had common sense to guess the trajectory of any armed conflict with Russia.
 
You know what is coming.. If Trump abandons Ukriane.EU will cling to Ukraine even more forcefully.. The only scenario where EU would have abandoned Ukriane, would be when US military would be fully behind EU militaririly.. With Trump now talking lightly of Article 5, and now abandoning Ukraine.. EU will now fully back Ukraine financially and with military supplies.. Because Ukraine Army is a million man mammoth Army that is still standing, and still fighting Russia after 3 years.. UK, Germany and France can hardly deploy 10 brigades together.. Only Ukraine and Turkey have the conventional forces to fight Russia..
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AFTER kicking Russia out of Syria, I now see Turkey gaining a lot of economic concessions as well from a scared EU [ Fast track EU accession ? ]

@Akim Interesting times ahead, and Russia will not have a cake walk, even if Trump wants it..

Between, Erdogan..



View: https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1891929741608862140?t=tIAVmrJQq_MPcc4qb6l_YA&s=19
 
You know what is coming.. If Trump abandons Ukriane.EU will cling to Ukraine even more forcefully.. The only scenario where EU would have abandoned Ukriane, would be when US military would be fully behind EU militaririly.. With Trump now talking lightly of Article 5, and now abandoning Ukraine.. EU will now fully back Ukraine financially and with military supplies.. Because Ukraine Army is a million man mammoth Army that is still standing, and still fighting Russia after 3 years.. UK, Germany and France can hardly deploy 10 brigades together.. Only Ukraine and Turkey have the conventional forces to fight Russia..
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AFTER kicking Russia out of Syria, I now see Turkey gaining a lot of economic concessions as well from a scared EU [ Fast track EU accession ? ]

@Akim Interesting times ahead, and Russia will not have a cake walk, even if Trump wants it..

Between, Erdogan..



View: https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1891929741608862140?t=tIAVmrJQq_MPcc4qb6l_YA&s=19

EU + Turkey doesnt have production capacity to match Russia.
No USA = checkmate Ukraine. its just that simple.
Ofcourse Turkey will back ukraine - Turkey and Russia are geopolitically like France and UK - destined to be enemies.
 
Footage has been published of a strike by a Russian Iskander-M missile on a group of Ukrainian equipment near the village of Boromlya in the Sumy region of Ukraine. The 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade of the Ukrainian Army is reportedly stationed in the forest. The brigade is armed with 300-mm Olkha MLRS and support equipment. The Olkha MLRS were developed on the basis of the Soviet Smerch MLRS and were accepted into service in 2018. The Olkha MLRS can launch 12 missiles in 48 seconds at a range of up to 130 kilometers. For an unknown reason, one Russian Iskander-M air-burst missile was used for the attack. Due to the shooting range, the extent of the damage is unclear, but the military equipment was densely packed. Official reports indicate that eight passenger vehicles, six armored vehicles, two trucks, a multiple rocket launcher, and a transport and loading vehicle were damaged.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr45t8r_gY8
 
EU + Turkey doesnt have production capacity to match Russia.
No USA = checkmate Ukraine. its just that simple.
Ofcourse Turkey will back ukraine - Turkey and Russia are geopolitically like France and UK - destined to be enemies.

Turkey has to be careful about pushing too hard because Russia will surely respond in other ways such as increasing material support for PKK in Turkey and creating more trouble in Syria.
 
Turkey has to be careful about pushing too hard because Russia will surely respond in other ways such as increasing material support for PKK in Turkey and creating more trouble in Syria.
Turkey senses golden opportunity to fuck with Russia in the intermediate future, while hiding under NATO umbrella.
It obviously cant attack Russia directly but it sure as hell can and will back a nation at full war with Russia under NATO shield as much as possible : this is Turkey's golden chance to get back at Russia as much as it can for giving it the fatal kill-shot at world powerhood - as Russia is the prime killer of Ottoman Empire in history, effectively making it dehati moozie middle eastern power by 1900 and not the juggernaut of Suleiman the magnificient's time.

Pretty much all losses of the Ottomans in the Caucasus, black sea littoral and balkans can be attributed directly to Russian Empire, so Turkey has strong historical motive to get back at Russia.

People have to realize a simple power dynamic between Turkey and Russia, aka lands of the Volga-Dneiper people to the lands of people of Turkey : The KEY to people of turkey's power is controlling Byzantion/constantinople/Istanbul, as it controls ALL passage of ships into Black sea, which means it controls ALL of the Turkish black sea cost by default ( and it mostly has, even in its worst days - byzantion had controlled the north turkish coast of black sea) and that is KEY to projecting power into the anatolian heartland of Turkish interior.

The Romans werent fools to set up their capital of the eastern empire on the euro shores when the wealth lied on the Asiatic shores- they fully understood that controlling Istanbul DOES yeild control over most of Asia Minor via this geographical reality.

But this also means, those people who live between the Dneiper and Volga, aka Russians, are hostage to the people of Istanbul, coz that is the only warm water 365 days a year sea trade route for these people and they too must pay the toll to the assholes of istanbul. So they strive for and have through history,succeeded in trimming the power of the asshole of istanbul who can hold their entire year round trade to rest of planet hostage.

Thus we have eternal enemies and this has more or less played out throughout the history of the last 2000 years of the region :the region of Rus kisses ass of Istanbul when Istanbul STRONK, then when Rus region can, sides with or flat out kicks ass of Istanbul region when it is STRONK or istanbul not so Stronk. Coz like demographics, geography is also destiny.
 
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EU + Turkey doesnt have production capacity to match Russia.
No USA = checkmate Ukraine. its just that simple.
Ofcourse Turkey will back ukraine - Turkey and Russia are geopolitically like France and UK - destined to be enemies.
Ukraine has been fighting Russia even if overmatched for 3 years.. It takes much less for the defender to keep fighting while losing some ground..
So, even if US stops all supplies to Ukraine, and EU + TURKEY double down, Ukraine can still fight for many years.. [Of course Ukraine will still be losing ground.But, it can stay in the fight ]
 
Footage has been published of a strike by a Russian Iskander-M missile on a group of Ukrainian equipment near the village of Boromlya in the Sumy region of Ukraine. The 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade of the Ukrainian Army is reportedly stationed in the forest. The brigade is armed with 300-mm Olkha MLRS and support equipment. The Olkha MLRS were developed on the basis of the Soviet Smerch MLRS and were accepted into service in 2018. The Olkha MLRS can launch 12 missiles in 48 seconds at a range of up to 130 kilometers. For an unknown reason, one Russian Iskander-M air-burst missile was used for the attack. Due to the shooting range, the extent of the damage is unclear, but the military equipment was densely packed. Official reports indicate that eight passenger vehicles, six armored vehicles, two trucks, a multiple rocket launcher, and a transport and loading vehicle were damaged.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr45t8r_gY8

Our pralay is like iskander-M right ? short range tactical ballistic missile on a TEL . Its going to crucial against pak fauj to strike deep inside pok and pakjab.
 
Ukraine has been fighting Russia even if overmatched for 3 years.. It takes much less for the defender to keep fighting while losing some ground..
So, even if US stops all supplies to Ukraine, and EU + TURKEY double down, Ukraine can still fight for many years.. [Of course Ukraine will still be losing ground.But, it can stay in the fight ]
After the end of the Russia EU gas supply deals, Ukraine is fucked. It's energy situation is going to get progressively worse. Until now Ukraine was getting both money and free gas. Now all that has stopped.
 
Ukraine has been fighting Russia even if overmatched for 3 years.. It takes much less for the defender to keep fighting while losing some ground..
So, even if US stops all supplies to Ukraine, and EU + TURKEY double down, Ukraine can still fight for many years.. [Of course Ukraine will still be losing ground.But, it can stay in the fight ]
Kabaab mein haddi is what you call doubling down, is actually trillion-ing down and expanding war industrial capacity in Europe by 250-300% and that is just to keep on pace with Russian arms industry.
Why do you think Trump is so 'hafta-wasool' with his NATO chamchaas ? Because trumpwa knows that no Murrica = no Ukraine. This isnt 1800s or even early 1900s where you can just triple your arms industrial capacity and output in just a couple of years. And even if you attempt to do, like USA itself was doing under Bhidanwaa, you need bottomless money pit to fund this - which Unkil has thanks to USD that Europe doesnt.

Remember, 50% of Unkil's funding to ukraine IS to expand Unkils war industries re-routed on home front.
Unkil has also been the major funder in the war goods department, given that EU spends less on Ukraine than USA and EU spends more on the humanitarian component ( food + tent and shit for displaced peoples of war). And where the Foc is Europe gonna find the money, with most of their right wing parties being anti ukraine war, plus their biggest engine Germany being in recession ?!? They cant just cash inject half a trillion like Unkil and ride it out due to dollar dominance. No one but unkil can. So Unkil underwriting your checks is of critical import if you wish to fund war with hard powers like Russia or Cheen.

So Unkil going bye-bye doesnt hurt Russia - it hurts Ukraine significantly, because by the time EU finds funds and gears up its industries 3 folds to match Russia, everything east of Dneiper would have fallen, Russians would demand kiev as a East Berlin like solution across the Dneiper and freeze conflict or just focus on Odessa and cut off Ukraine from sea permanently if war continues, percipitating Ukrainian surrender.
This is the only logical outcome of Unkil going bye-bye for Ukraine war.
 
"Stop transposing my view"? or what? You will report me for stating my views? Well I'm scared now. You think you're some expert on Russia, but if you Ukrainians knew so much, why did it surprise you that Russia attacked? The only thing that surprised me was how long it took. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The big defense companies in the US are all publicly traded companies. There isn't much difference between a private company and one that is traded on the stock exchange. Both are run by multi millionaires and billionaires.
You really don't understand the difference between state and private factories. The former has no great interest in accumulating big profits. So the version about Russian "arms barons" is not valid.
 
You know what is coming.. If Trump abandons Ukriane.EU will cling to Ukraine even more forcefully.. The only scenario where EU would have abandoned Ukriane, would be when US military would be fully behind EU militaririly.. With Trump now talking lightly of Article 5, and now abandoning Ukraine.. EU will now fully back Ukraine financially and with military supplies.. Because Ukraine Army is a million man mammoth Army that is still standing, and still fighting Russia after 3 years.. UK, Germany and France can hardly deploy 10 brigades together.. Only Ukraine and Turkey have the conventional forces to fight Russia..
I
AFTER kicking Russia out of Syria, I now see Turkey gaining a lot of economic concessions as well from a scared EU [ Fast track EU accession ? ]

@Akim Interesting times ahead, and Russia will not have a cake walk, even if Trump wants it..

Between, Erdogan..



View: https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1891929741608862140?t=tIAVmrJQq_MPcc4qb6l_YA&s=19

This is quite possible. We will probably have to go through a period of absence of American AA missiles and their replacement with Ukrainian analogues (it is already known about the development of a replacement in NASAMS AIM-120 with a modification of R-27), but for now Trump is ready to sell Europe weapons for Ukraine.
 
any idea on what peace deal will look like ?

Ukraine gives back kursk land , Russian keeps all area it captured . Ukraine cant join NATO , EU/US/neutral state troops guarding the border ?

:D if this is case , imho very good for ukraine/russia , no ?
 
any idea on what peace deal will look like ?

Ukraine gives back kursk land , Russian keeps all area it captured . Ukraine cant join NATO , EU/US/neutral state troops guarding the border ?

:D if this is case , imho very good for ukraine/russia , no ?

Add Ukraine calls for elections and Z steps down to the list! :bplease:
 

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