Russian Ukrainian War

[Akim]

If that is the case why have 51,000 Ukrainian soldiers deserted this year alone?

About 51,000 Ukrainians Have Deserted Armed Forces This Year | The Libertarian Institute

The Ukrainian prosecutor's office has opened 51,000 cases of desertion through the first nine months of 2024. The number of soldiers abandoning their posts is likely to double last year's total. The Times of London reported data from the Ukrainian government showing that "51,000 criminal cases...

libertarianinstitute.org

Even more. 60 thousand criminal cases have been opened. Experts say there are 80 thousand cases. So what? There are always deserters. Even in peacetime, there are hundreds a year. There are such cases in any conscription army.
Average desertion rate in peacetime: 15/1000.
In the US Army, during the Vietnam War, tens of thousands of deserters a year.
Vietnam, on another continent, not the same intensity of war, not the same level of information and still, many were afraid. This is normal. People are all different.

 

[Soldier35]

Russian military personnel spoke about their experience of using the Molniya aircraft-type FPV drone in Ukraine.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYMq5qAVy1g

 

[Vishnugupt]

Akim is following a fix pattern to reply all questions

Ignorance + a stupid analogy + a irrelevant example + a favourite fantasy

Example :

So what if Ukraine lost the war + a great war never ends like North Korean and South Korea. May be It appears Ukraine has lost but war will continue + Germany also lost WWII but now it's manufacturing superpower + in next thousand years, where Putler will be no more, Russia will be weak enough then Ukraine will take all territory back .

 

[Corvus Splendens]

4chan generals are hard at work

 

[Blademaster]

4chan generals are hard at work
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Living in La La land. Yeah right this is ever gonna happen not even ordinary Russians will allow this to happen even if Putin and his group were somehow to be wiped off the earth.

Russians are gonna keep grinding until Ukraine literally runs out of bodies.

 

[Akim]

Akim is following a fix pattern to reply all questions

Ignorance + a stupid analogy + a irrelevant example + a favourite fantasy

Example :

So what if Ukraine lost the war + a great war never ends like North Korean and South Korea. May be It appears Ukraine has lost but war will continue + Germany also lost WWII but now it's manufacturing superpower + in next thousand years, where Putler will be no more, Russia will be weak enough then Ukraine will take all territory back .

If Ukraine lost, then why are the fighting continuing at the front?
If you give the example of WW2, then how did the Germans end up at Stalingrad?
We now know the outcome, but back then (in 1942) no one knew the outcome of the war.
By the way, only in 1943, Soviet fighters were able to match the German ones. The Yak-1 could not even match the Me-109G because it was wooden. Only when the Allies established supplies of duralumin, the Yak-9 appeared.
And now something similar is happening with the transition to Western-type aviation.
I do not see a loss. I do not see strategic successes for the enemy. There is a slow push through our defense in exchange for the waste of military resources. Banzai attacks on motorcycles did not appear for nothing.

 

[Akim]

If Ukraine lost, then why are the fighting continuing at the front?
If you give the example of WW2, then how did the Germans end up at Stalingrad?
We now know the outcome, but back then (in 1942) no one knew the outcome of the war.
By the way, only in 1943, Soviet fighters were able to match the German ones. The Yak-1 could not even match the Me-109G because it was wooden. Only when the Allies established supplies of duralumin, the Yak-9 appeared.
And now something similar is happening with the transition to Western-type aviation.
I do not see a loss. I do not see strategic successes for the enemy. There is a slow push through our defense in exchange for the waste of military resources. Banzai attacks on motorcycles did not appear for nothing.

View: https://x.com/markito0171/status/1850175953000960440

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Even more. 60 thousand criminal cases have been opened. Experts say there are 80 thousand cases. So what? There are always deserters. Even in peacetime, there are hundreds a year. There are such cases in any conscription army.
Average desertion rate in peacetime: 15/1000.
In the US Army, during the Vietnam War, tens of thousands of deserters a year.
Vietnam, on another continent, not the same intensity of war, not the same level of information and still, many were afraid. This is normal. People are all different.

US desertion rates in Vietnam was quite low. We are talking in less than a thousand for the entire duration of the 20+ years of war.
They definitely did not have thousands of active deployed personnel abscond. What they had, are draft dodgers. People who'd just drive to Canada and remain or go into mountains of wyoming and live off the land and make farmstead with MUH GUNZZ - **THAT** murrica had in thousands, the moment they got draft papers in the mail. Everyone in murrica has a car and getting a gun is ez pz.

Not quite the same as soldiers shitting their pants while deployed and deserting in their tens of thousands. But sure, spin more propaganda due to love of your country and tell us we dont know the facts.

 

[Akim]

The Yak-1 could not even match the Me-109G because it was wooden. Only when the Allies established supplies of duralumin, the Yak-9 appeared.

Sorry, I made a mistake and counted incorrectly. In our alphabet, "Ф" is at the end of the list. The Yak-1 could fight the Me-109E, but it could only defeat the Me-109F if it attacked in a crowd.

 

[Boiled_AnDa]

can any anyone of our russian/ukrainian member please confirm what this guy is actually saying, or the X handle just making words up?

View: https://x.com/i/status/1850192917400600663

 

[shade2]

Meanwhile the unholy alliance of W*st and Greens

Russian Rosgvardia convoy attacked in Chechnya - Euromaidan Press

Unknown people shot at Rosgvardia Ural truck, killing one serviceman.

euromaidanpress.com

Jholenskkyyy wants more NATO afsars to join up in the ukranian army

Zelenskyy signs law allowing foreigners to serve as officers in Ukrainian military

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed a law allowing foreigners and stateless persons to serve in Ukraine’s Armed Forces under contract in officer positions.

www.pravda.com.ua

 

[WW2historian]

View: https://x.com/markito0171/status/1850175953000960440

I think these pictures perfectly shows a great strategic victory and this is just one of many examples. Ukraine is once again caught in cauldron and their only supply and escape routs are under complete fire control by Russia. Therefore Ukraine losses are much greater than Russian ones. Over the long run it means Ukraine will lose all it's soldier and equipment and Russia will still have a million soldiers left.

View: https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1848858950701355121

View: https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1850263251684048970

 

[WW2historian]

This clown and many other people like him are once again being as predictable as the sun rising. Russia wins another victory, and they try and distract from that with complete made up bullshit.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LXg43hgl8

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUgBWUAxIu4

 

[Vishnugupt]

Russia has got strong upper hand against the Ukraine.

1) NATO can not give permission to strike deep in fear of Russian retaliation.

2) NATO can't match Russia/NK/Iran weapons production scale

3) Now North Korean soldiers will defend Russian border which will free Russian men for SMO

4) Attacking Russia/BelaRus directly will immediately invite WW-3 and Nuke response as Russian Allies are free to respond.

5) Israel Arab conflicts keep burning as long as it take because Iran control Hizbullah.

6) Ukraine is almost headless chicken, No infrastructure, no finance, No surplus men to fight

7) Recently concluded BRICS summit shows us that BRICS countries have no issue to supply critical material for Russia.

Only luck is if sudden government change in Kremlin or NATO go for all-out war against Russia. Which is something look impossible for now.

 

[shade2]

Russia has got strong upper hand against the Ukraine.

1) NATO can not give permission to strike deep in fear of Russian retaliation.

2) NATO can't match Russia/NK/Iran weapons production scale

3) Now North Korean soldiers will defend Russian border which will free Russian men for SMO

4) Attacking Russia/BelaRus directly will immediately invite WW-3 and Nuke response as Russian Allies are free to respond.

5) Israel Arab conflicts keep burning as long as it take because Iran control Hizbullah.

6) Ukraine is almost headless chicken, No infrastructure, no finance, No surplus men to fight

7) Recently concluded BRICS summit shows us that BRICS countries have no issue to supply critical material for Russia.

Only luck is if sudden government change in Kremlin or NATO go for all-out war against Russia. Which is something look impossible for now.

Russians will always have the upper hand since gora gandus are content with Ukranis (((bleeding))) Russia.
And ukraine has low population as it is, they can't sustain for long.

 

[Akim]

I think these pictures perfectly shows a great strategic victory and this is just one of many examples. Ukraine is once again caught in cauldron and their only supply and escape routs are under complete fire control by Russia. Therefore Ukraine losses are much greater than Russian ones. Over the long run it means Ukraine will lose all it's soldier and equipment and Russia will still have a million soldiers left.

View: https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1848858950701355121

View: https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1850263251684048970

You keep talking about some cauldrons, but you've never shown columns of Ukrainian prisoners. Probably because you simply don't know the definitions and repeat what's been said like a fairground monkey.
"Cauldron" is the encirclement of a large group of enemy troops.
What you're showing is called "pincers" in operational art.
I've already said: The enemy does have tactical successes and several mining towns have fallen, but the whole question is in the price.
I thought that the 37mm 61-K in occupied Mariupol was a temporary solution until the Russian government replaces them, but the ISU-152 shows that they send everything that shoots to the front. Now it's important not to reduce the temp utilization of Russian armored vehicles/artillery.

 

[WW2historian]

You keep talking about some cauldrons, but you've never shown columns of Ukrainian prisoners. Probably because you simply don't know the definitions and repeat what's been said like a fairground monkey.
"Cauldron" is the encirclement of a large group of enemy troops.
What you're showing is called "pincers" in operational art.
I've already said: The enemy does have tactical successes and several mining towns have fallen, but the whole question is in the price.
I thought that the 37mm 61-K in occupied Mariupol was a temporary solution until the Russian government replaces them, but the ISU-152 shows that they send everything that shoots to the front. Now it's important not to reduce the temp utilization of Russian armored vehicles/artillery.

I don't mind being wrong and in a way I am because the term cauldron does seem to have different meanings. I also said Ukraine's only escape rout was under complete fire control, but I didn't say encirclement. Plus it seems cauldron to some military site does mean surrounded on three sides. Other say it's 4 sides. Yeah Akim Ukraine is losing hardly any soldiers when they are surrounded on 3 sides and can't get resupplied. "In military theory, a cauldron battle is an operational maneuver to surround the enemy on at least three sides. The idea comes from the German kesselschlacht, in which the goal is to force the enemy into a self-defeating battle of annihilation, surrender, or retreat along a narrow front ceding territory to the attacking force. The maneuver is a variation of a pincer movement, or double envelopment, in which an advancing force attacks both flanks of the defender."

How to Win the Battle in Eastern Ukraine

Russian forces are preparing for a large battle in eastern Ukraine to defeat the Ukrainian army and use terrain as a bargaining chip at the negotiating table. Kyiv should transition from a defensive war and conduct localized counterattacks to limit Russia’s advance.

www.csis.org

 

[WW2historian]

I guess bozo Zelensky didn't consider the signed agreement between Russia and N. Korea when he attacked Russia.

Concerns mount as Russia and North Korea commit to a mutual defense pact​

Updated June 20, 20241:34 PM ET
SEOUL, South Korea — Foreign governments expressed concern about a treaty between Russia and North Korea that commits the two countries to providing military assistance to each other, if either of them is invaded.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un signed the treaty Wednesday, during Putin’s visit to Pyongyang."

"The treaty upgrades the countries' relationship to a “comprehensive strategic partnership.” It specifies that if either side goes to war after being invaded, “the other side shall provide military and other assistance with all means in its possession without delay,” according to a treaty text published Thursday by North Korean state media.

Russia ratifies military pact with North Korea

The pact obliges Russia and North Korea to immediately provide military assistance using "all means" if either is attacked.

www.newsweek.com

I'll say it again, idiot cocaine addict Zelensky is Putin's greatest asset.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DweSJ0WuOLQ&t=16s

 

[Soldier35]

Russian kamikaze drones "Geran-2" began to be used in Ukraine with direct control of operators. To communicate with the operator, a built-in 4G modem and a Ukrainian SIM card are used, and SIM cards from other countries can also be used. A drone in such equipment is capable of operating over the entire territory of Ukraine and any neighboring country where mobile communications work. The video shows the first footage of the attack of the Russian drone "Geran-2" on an electrical substation with transformers in the area of the city of Belopolye in the Sumy region of Ukraine.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknh7nb84kM

 

[Akim]

I don't mind being wrong and in a way I am because the term cauldron does seem to have different meanings. I also said Ukraine's only escape rout was under complete fire control, but I didn't say encirclement. Plus it seems cauldron to some military site does mean surrounded on three sides. Other say it's 4 sides. Yeah Akim Ukraine is losing hardly any soldiers when they are surrounded on 3 sides and can't get resupplied. "In military theory, a cauldron battle is an operational maneuver to surround the enemy on at least three sides. The idea comes from the German kesselschlacht, in which the goal is to force the enemy into a self-defeating battle of annihilation, surrender, or retreat along a narrow front ceding territory to the attacking force. The maneuver is a variation of a pincer movement, or double envelopment, in which an advancing force attacks both flanks of the defender."

How to Win the Battle in Eastern Ukraine

Russian forces are preparing for a large battle in eastern Ukraine to defeat the Ukrainian army and use terrain as a bargaining chip at the negotiating table. Kyiv should transition from a defensive war and conduct localized counterattacks to limit Russia’s advance.

www.csis.org

It's called "operational encirclement". I don't understand at all what kind of moron made his senior fellow. A stupid friend is worse than a smart enemy.