Russian Ukrainian War

Last night 60 minutes ran a story about the Russian pilot Maxim Kuzminov defecting by flying his helicopter to Ukraine. What the conveniently left out was the fact that his 2 crew members were murdered by Ukraine. Gee, I wonder why? https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-chopper-pilot-who-defected-to-ukraine-found-dead-in-spain/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n7ReAAmr14&t=165s
 
Since when did Telegraph become Trump's mouthpiece?
I don't know why you are riled up , anyway freezing of borders could be an option, unlike you sir I don't have access to primary sources to what trump says, anyway instead of just saying fake news, mouthpiece etc etc pls provide source, or else ignore my so called "fake news" or atleast don't quote me .
 
Even if Trump betrays Ukraine, who told whom that Ukraine will be divided like Czechoslovakia in 1938? I already said: military aid from the US is only a third of military supplies (Europe covers a third and Ukraine produces another third). It will be much worse if the US bans the supply of weapons produced under license. Then we will have to convert our and European AD missiles into American air defense systems and rockets into M142/240. This is a waste of time.
 
I don't know why you are riled up , anyway freezing of borders could be an option, unlike you sir I don't have access to primary sources to what trump says, anyway instead of just saying fake news, mouthpiece etc etc pls provide source, or else ignore my so called "fake news" or atleast don't quote me .
Why are you defending fake news purveyors?
 
Even if Trump betrays Ukraine, who told whom that Ukraine will be divided like Czechoslovakia in 1938? I already said: military aid from the US is only a third of military supplies (Europe covers a third and Ukraine produces another third). It will be much worse if the US bans the supply of weapons produced under license. Then we will have to convert our and European AD missiles into American air defense systems and rockets into M142/240. This is a waste of time.
You guys are fucked from both ends. You just don't know it yet.
 
Even if Trump betrays Ukraine, who told whom that Ukraine will be divided like Czechoslovakia in 1938? I already said: military aid from the US is only a third of military supplies (Europe covers a third and Ukraine produces another third). It will be much worse if the US bans the supply of weapons produced under license. Then we will have to convert our and European AD missiles into American air defense systems and rockets into M142/240. This is a waste of time.
How could Trump betray Ukraine when he never promised them shit? You apparently don't remember him saying years ago that "Ukraine is Europe's problem." The question now is can Ukraine hold out until a neocon is elected president in 4 years? IMO Putin won't stop until Odessa is taken. That is the only way to achieve total victory and assure Ukraine is destroyed both militarily and economically.
 
How could Trump betray Ukraine when he never promised them shit? You apparently don't remember him saying years ago that "Ukraine is Europe's problem." The question now is can Ukraine hold out until a neocon is elected president in 4 years? IMO Putin won't stop until Odessa is taken. That is the only way to achieve total victory and assure Ukraine is destroyed both militarily and economically.

The beauty of Putin's speshul military operashun is that it has Schrodinger's military objectives.
Nobody fucking knows

Odessa and everything east of the Dnieper river is a logical choice for speculators like us but we really don't know what is the Russkie objective after the flop of the expectation that they'd have all Ukraine in a week from Feb 2022

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The whole scheme of the Amerisharts is to BLeEd rUSsiA and that objective is such low hanging fruit they've already Trump-proofed it considering Russkies haven't even taken a major city yet
 
How could Trump betray Ukraine when he never promised them shit? You apparently don't remember him saying years ago that "Ukraine is Europe's problem." The question now is can Ukraine hold out until a neocon is elected president in 4 years? IMO Putin won't stop until Odessa is taken. That is the only way to achieve total victory and assure Ukraine is destroyed both militarily and economically.
Who is Trump - the President of the United States. He represents a country that promised to help us. It was not only Biden's promise, but also both chambers of Parliament.
That's why I talked about betrayal. Personally, I don't give a damn about begging for handouts. If he wants to be shit, let him be. It will be easier for authoritarian regimes to tear apart the lonely United States. Only together can we unite and defend our lives.
 
You quote my phrase and do not understand its meaning. We know who the enemy is.
The US is not the only source of funding. The EU allocates twice as much money. But Europe did not have as many weapons as the US. The US made many promises. We have only one Patriot system of American manufacture (although they promised 5). The rest of the Patriot systems are German-made.
But this is not a reason to end the fight.
The cracks are already appearing. Britain will be next in line. They will also stop aid to Ukraine.

‘It’s not our children who are dying’​

On Friday, George Osborne said it was not realistic for the UK to keep backing Ukraine without US support following Trump’s victory.

“Is it realistic to expect a complete victory for Ukraine, the complete ejection of Russia from Ukrainian territory? And if it’s not, you know, it may suit our vanity in the West to say ‘plucky Ukrainians’, [but] it’s not our children who are dying,” the former chancellor said.

“It’s also totally unrealistic, in my view, to think that Europe alone, including the UK, can go on supporting Ukraine without the support of the United States, even though Joe Biden actually is rushing to spend the $61 billion that Congress recently voted in terms of American aid for Ukraine before he leaves office.”

Naturally idiot Zelensky responded with a Jedi mind trick trying to scare the west. "Details of the plan emerged as Volodymyr Zelensky warned that any attempt to make peace by appeasing Russia would mean “suicide” for Europe."

Some neocons are quoting a plan which would not make the US lose face. I wonder how they will try and spin this to make the US and the west making a deal which would be not interpreted as a Russian victory? By the way Trump just said Mike Pompeo won't be part of the new administration. He's a neocon.
"Mike Pompeo, who served as Mr Trump’s secretary of state during his first term and is now tipped to head the Pentagon, has criticised the Biden administration for providing too little help too slowly and is likely to resist a deal that could be interpreted as a Russian victory.
 
The cracks are already appearing. Britain will be next in line. They will also stop aid to Ukraine.

‘It’s not our children who are dying’​

On Friday, George Osborne said it was not realistic for the UK to keep backing Ukraine without US support following Trump’s victory.

“Is it realistic to expect a complete victory for Ukraine, the complete ejection of Russia from Ukrainian territory? And if it’s not, you know, it may suit our vanity in the West to say ‘plucky Ukrainians’, [but] it’s not our children who are dying,” the former chancellor said.

“It’s also totally unrealistic, in my view, to think that Europe alone, including the UK, can go on supporting Ukraine without the support of the United States, even though Joe Biden actually is rushing to spend the $61 billion that Congress recently voted in terms of American aid for Ukraine before he leaves office.”

Naturally idiot Zelensky responded with a Jedi mind trick trying to scare the west. "Details of the plan emerged as Volodymyr Zelensky warned that any attempt to make peace by appeasing Russia would mean “suicide” for Europe."

Some neocons are quoting a plan which would not make the US lose face. I wonder how they will try and spin this to make the US and the west making a deal which would be not interpreted as a Russian victory? By the way Trump just said Mike Pompeo won't be part of the new administration. He's a neocon.
"Mike Pompeo, who served as Mr Trump’s secretary of state during his first term and is now tipped to head the Pentagon, has criticised the Biden administration for providing too little help too slowly and is likely to resist a deal that could be interpreted as a Russian victory.

Not a single Europoid country can supply Ukraine like US can, after all the donation supplies from Euros themselves depend on American replenishments( or in case of France, domestic production in many cases ) .

This will be a Russian Victory, however the blame will fall on ebul, Ruzzian asset Donald Trump, why do you think they didn't steal the election this time?

The Don is the ultimate fall guy to take the blame for things that would make establishment Dem/Rep lose face
 

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