Russian Ukrainian War

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[craigs]

any idea on what peace deal will look like ?

Ukraine gives back kursk land , Russian keeps all area it captured . Ukraine cant join NATO , EU/US/neutral state troops guarding the border ?

if this is case , imho very good for ukraine/russia , no ?

No NATO/EU troops in Ukraine. All War Crimes by Nazis and Mercenaries will be prosecuted by military tribunal and the guilty punished. Ukraine has to forget about Kursk and the four oblasts where referendum has already taken place in addition Ukraine will have to severely limit their military and give autonomy to Odessa and Nikolaev oblasts.

 

[trombone]

View: https://x.com/JDunlap1974/status/1891830368459792863

he is the european paki - begging and threatening.

 

[Akim]

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View: https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/1892181153999704214

 

[Akim]

No NATO/EU troops in Ukraine. All War Crimes by Nazis and Mercenaries will be prosecuted by military tribunal and the guilty punished. Ukraine has to forget about Kursk and the four oblasts where referendum has already taken place in addition Ukraine will have to severely limit their military and give autonomy to Odessa and Nikolaev oblasts.

F.y.

 

[Soldier35]

Another rare footage of the strike of the Russian FAB-3000 bomb equipped with the UMPK module on a Ukrainian temporary deployment point. The FAB-3000 bomb was dropped by a Russian Su-34 aircraft. The video was filmed near the village of Kurilovka, Sudzhansky District, Kursk Region of Russia. According to the media, there was a Ukrainian temporary deployment point in the forest, with underground utilities. The aftermath of the FAB-3000 bomb strike was not filmed.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEwhPQb7u8

 

[WW2historian]

You know what is coming.. If Trump abandons Ukriane.EU will cling to Ukraine even more forcefully.. The only scenario where EU would have abandoned Ukriane, would be when US military would be fully behind EU militaririly.. With Trump now talking lightly of Article 5, and now abandoning Ukraine.. EU will now fully back Ukraine financially and with military supplies.. Because Ukraine Army is a million man mammoth Army that is still standing, and still fighting Russia after 3 years.. UK, Germany and France can hardly deploy 10 brigades together.. Only Ukraine and Turkey have the conventional forces to fight Russia..
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AFTER kicking Russia out of Syria, I now see Turkey gaining a lot of economic concessions as well from a scared EU [ Fast track EU accession ? ]

@Akim Interesting times ahead, and Russia will not have a cake walk, even if Trump wants it..

Between, Erdogan..



View: https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1891929741608862140?t=tIAVmrJQq_MPcc4qb6l_YA&s=19

You really don't understand the difference between state and private factories. The former has no great interest in accumulating big profits. So the version about Russian "arms barons" is not valid.

On the list of countries with the most billionaires, Russia ranks 5th with 120. I'm sure none of those 120 are in the military arms business. You're embarrassing yourself once again.

Countries With The Most Billionaires: Check India's Rank!

The number of billionaires worldwide reached 2,781 in 2024, with the U.S. leading. Explore the wealth distribution across top countries.

www.jagranjosh.com

 

[WW2historian]

You know what is coming.. If Trump abandons Ukriane.EU will cling to Ukraine even more forcefully.. The only scenario where EU would have abandoned Ukriane, would be when US military would be fully behind EU militaririly.. With Trump now talking lightly of Article 5, and now abandoning Ukraine.. EU will now fully back Ukraine financially and with military supplies.. Because Ukraine Army is a million man mammoth Army that is still standing, and still fighting Russia after 3 years.. UK, Germany and France can hardly deploy 10 brigades together.. Only Ukraine and Turkey have the conventional forces to fight Russia..
I
AFTER kicking Russia out of Syria, I now see Turkey gaining a lot of economic concessions as well from a scared EU [ Fast track EU accession ? ]

@Akim Interesting times ahead, and Russia will not have a cake walk, even if Trump wants it..

Between, Erdogan..



View: https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1891929741608862140?t=tIAVmrJQq_MPcc4qb6l_YA&s=19

If Trump abandons Ukraine? He not only abandoned Ukraine he killed, burned and buried it's ashes. There is no going back now for Trump. He committed himself fully. Can he really say if Putin doesn't negotiate that he will go all out and supply Ukraine to the maximum? I don't think so. What could he say? I changed my mind, Ukraine is great again and so is Zelensky? Trump has turned his attention to China. And that's means that Putin will has his way in Ukraine and won't stop until he takes Kiev and Odessa.

 

[Akim]

On the list of countries with the most billionaires, Russia ranks 5th with 120. I'm sure none of those 120 are in the military arms business. You're embarrassing yourself once again.

Countries With The Most Billionaires: Check India's Rank!

The number of billionaires worldwide reached 2,781 in 2024, with the U.S. leading. Explore the wealth distribution across top countries.

www.jagranjosh.com

How can I argue with you if you don't understand. At least study the structure of their economy. The arms industry in Russia is under state control. This business receives income, but it does not end up in the hands of the directors. Only crumbs, but they do not brag about them.
There are many other ways to become a billionaire in Russia.
For example: Rostec recently nationalized several cartridge and gunpowder factories. They were not built from scratch, they are Soviet factories, but it is more profitable for a private owner to sell their goods abroad. Therefore, they were simply taken away, possibly with compensation. This is because there is no arms lobby there.

 

[WW2historian]

How can I argue with you if you don't understand. At least study the structure of their economy. The arms industry in Russia is under state control. This business receives income, but it does not end up in the hands of the directors. Only crumbs, but they do not brag about them.
There are many other ways to become a billionaire in Russia.
For example: Rostec recently nationalized several cartridge and gunpowder factories. They were not built from scratch, they are Soviet factories, but it is more profitable for a private owner to sell their goods abroad. Therefore, they were simply taken away, possibly with compensation. This is because there is no arms lobby there.

I fully understand. The problem is you think you understand, but you don't. For example; US arms companies appear like the are not under government control, but they really are. So it's the same for both countries. Who buys weapons from US defense companies? Elon Musk? Nope, only the military which is under government control because congress decides who gets the contracts. Military companies in both countries need to be run by smart innovated people that are well paid for their skills. Do you really think Russia is stupid enough to think they can get away with paying with bread crumbs to people and expect great results? Smart, competent people expect to be well paid and if they are not they will tell Putin to shove his deal up his ass. Dude your head has been stuck up your ass since the USSR broke up. They don't do things the old way, but for some stupid reason you think they still do. Plus prove it by showing what these people are paid, you can't so you make up shit like you always do and expect us to eat it.

 

[Akim]

 

[WW2historian]

Who runs Rostec? Putin's good friend Sergei Chemezov. Appearances and perception blinds people like you. Rostec is state owned and this fools you into believing Sergei Chemezov is paid only bread crumbs. The truth is he and his family are incredibly rich. Naturally he denies this, and your dumb ass believes him.

Pandora Leak Again Brings Up A Familiar Russian Name: Rostec CEO Sergei Chemezov

Pandora is not the first time the name of longtime Vladimir Putin insider Sergei Chemezov has been accused of lining the pockets of friends and relatives.

www.rferl.org

 

[craigs]

F.y.

Your are in stage 2 probably. Don't worry things will get better for you:

 

[average indian]

KT Session all US arm sales are fully controlled By State department it is not like they can sell who ever they want without approval

Technical Difficulties

 

[Blademaster]

Ukraine has been fighting Russia even if overmatched for 3 years.. It takes much less for the defender to keep fighting while losing some ground..
So, even if US stops all supplies to Ukraine, and EU + TURKEY double down, Ukraine can still fight for many years.. [Of course Ukraine will still be losing ground.But, it can stay in the fight ]

And Russia can still outlast Ukraine. If EU and Turkey doubles down, Russia has no choice but to go all the way as it has very long memories of invasion of Russia through Ukraine.

 

[Blademaster]

any idea on what peace deal will look like ?

Ukraine gives back kursk land , Russian keeps all area it captured . Ukraine cant join NATO , EU/US/neutral state troops guarding the border ?

if this is case , imho very good for ukraine/russia , no ?

There is nothing for Ukraine to give as it has already lost Kursk.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

any idea on what peace deal will look like ?

Ukraine gives back kursk land , Russian keeps all area it captured . Ukraine cant join NATO , EU/US/neutral state troops guarding the border ?

if this is case , imho very good for ukraine/russia , no ?

Russia cant take peace without controlling all of Kherson, Zapho and Donetsk. Because Russia formally annxed it.
You cant stop a war where you aint losing, when you have just declared contested territory as your INTEGRAL sovereign land and you dont control it yet . Like wot de foc. This is how putin gets assassinated by even more nationalist Putin.

 

[Akim]

Your are in stage 2 probably. Don't worry things will get better for you:
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I'm stopping communicating with Trumpists.

 

[craigs]

I'm stopping communicating with Trumpists.

How is that working for the moderately successful comedian and full time dictator?

 

[MasterChief]

There is nothing for Ukraine to give as it has already lost Kursk.

Ukaine still retains some [[around 35 percent] of initially captured areaof Kursk