Russian Ukrainian War

[Anants]

You seem to have a bad history. The first empires did not have overseas colonies. So stop crying about the past. You live TODAY.
And it was not India that defeated Nazism. It was the Anglo-Saxons and the USSR. So it is not your nation to characterize this.

Without Volunteer Indian Armed soldiers in British Army axis powers would have had tough time. French, African and even Italian Alpine battles that got won because of sheer Indian component tenacity. Even Japs faced defeat in attacking India during ww2. Once that volunteer Indian Army refused to corporate INA, Naval revolts Britain had to pack bags.

India bolstered the Allied war effort with over 2.5 million troops, vast material resources, and strategic support, significantly aiding victories in multiple theaters, including Europe. Over 2.5 million Indian soldiers served. Indian troops were pivotal in the Italian Campaign, notably at Monte Cassino and the Gothic Line, contributing to Allied successes in Italy. Around 87,000 Indian soldiers died in European theatres alone. India’s role extended beyond Europe, with major contributions in North Africa (e.g., against Rommel’s Afrika Korps) and Southeast Asia (e.g., the Burma Campaign), but I primarily focussed European theaters.

 

[Blademaster]

You seem to have a bad history. The first empires did not have overseas colonies. So stop crying about the past. You live TODAY.
And it was not India that defeated Nazism. It was the Anglo-Saxons and the USSR. So it is not your nation to characterize this.

You conveniently left out the fact that the British Indian Army was the one that routed Rommel’s forces in North Africa and seized Italy and took Italy from Nazis and was on the frontlines in the Western European theater.

And you are distorting history to fit your false BS narrative.

 

[Akim]

You conveniently left out the fact that the British Indian Army was the one that routed Rommel’s forces in North Africa and seized Italy and took Italy from Nazis and was on the frontlines in the Western European theater.

And you are distorting history to fit your false BS narrative.

Britain dropped 900K tons of bombs on Germany. How many of them were produced in India?
The bravery of a Ukrainian soldier will not stop a T-90 if there is nothing in his hands.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

You seem to have a bad history. The first empires did not have overseas colonies. So stop crying about the past. You live TODAY.
And it was not India that defeated Nazism. It was the Anglo-Saxons and the USSR. So it is not your nation to characterize this.

it was russians who defeated nazism. not anglo saxons. and if you include anglo saxons, you have to include indians too, coz we did almost as much as the anglo saxon - which is also next to nothing compared to russians.

 

[Cyclops]

Have you personally entered a brothel and seen that there were only Ukrainian women there? I can tell you similar words from propaganda about Russian women in Turkey.
It is probably because there is no demand for Indian women and just don't say that you all ride on golden elephants and there are no prostitutes in India.

Now, he shouldn't have generalized but that wasn't the own you think it is.
Rightly so, in India all of that bs is relegated to the dregs of society and general depravity is either marginalized or policed, unlike in the occident where it is to a significant degree, glorified.
And I don't know about you but I would rather be unwanted than be wanted for death and degeneracy, which unfortunately a portion of men and women of Ukraine are going through.
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Now onto ontopic discussions.

Trump "requests" Putin to spare Ukrainian soldiers and the Brits bombast the "coalition of the willing" rhetoric.

• British Prime Minister Keir Starmer says a “coalition of the willing” of Western nations will draw up plans to help secure Ukraine “on the land, at sea, and in the sky” in the event of a peace deal with Russia.
• Russian forces retake control of two settlements in Russia’s Kursk region as military advances continue against invading Ukrainian troops.
• Russia and Ukraine have traded heavy aerial blows with both sides reporting more than 100 enemy drones over their respective territories.
• Ukraine’s largest private energy provider says Russian air strikes damaged its energy facilities in the Dnipropetrovsk and Odesa regions.

Russia-Ukraine updates: ‘Coalition of the willing’ vows Ukraine protection

 

[KrishRus]

Correct. Any Nazi supporting population deserves to be insulted.

Not really, i want this current world order which is feminine to collapse and be repalced by a masculine one where people and tribes are judged by their strength than some false god of equality and diversity.

Do you think in a world where India is growing we, would want to look at our lessers as equals.

When we are strong we should construct and support a morality and worldview that is favourable to the strong.

Most of the western countries (read european) are going through its sunset phase. Eventually we will be among the top ranks of the Leaderboards in terms of power. Do you want a zeitgiest of weakness worship like we have now(wokeness, equality,diversity,etc) because it will not support our situation at that time.

Lions should not support the morality of deers, We are slowly turning into lions.

In that context I dont want supremacist groups to be seen in a bad light. ESPECIALLY THE CONCEPT OF SUPREMACY. SUPREMACY IS A NATURAL FACT OF LIFE. SOME GROUPS AND PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS WHETHER IT BY THEIR ACTIONS - COLLECTIVE OR INDIVIDUAL, GENES,ETC.

If you hate supremacy today and support Stupid equality, tomorrow a paki can claim asylum in india and say that he deserves the reputation and largesse of India because of the principle of equality and tolerance which is the GOD OF THE WEAK.

The russia-ukraine war weakens this order of liberal-democracy and equality worship the more it goes in favor of russia - So I support Russia. Because eventually it will result in an order that is favorable to more capable people like our own who are growing stronger. But at the same time I am silent on actual supremacist groups because supremacy as a concept should be wiped out. Supremacy is good meme to have if you are country going to be strong in the future like us.

 

[Psacha123]

You conveniently left out the fact that the British Indian Army was the one that routed Rommel’s forces in North Africa and seized Italy and took Italy from Nazis and was on the frontlines in the Western European theater.

And you are distorting history to fit your false BS narrative.

A simple fact,
Out of the total 181 Victoria crosses given by the British, 28 (or ~16%) were awarded to Indians.
The military contribution itself is much more than 16% as we know there would be a clear bias in handing out these awards.
On the North Africa front, Indians were literally used as cannon fodder to clear out the mines resulting in massive casualties.

And I didn’t even mention the huge material, grains and logistical support.

Anyone who says Indians didn’t contribute in WW2 is a disgusting PoS.

 

[Cyclops]

Not really, i want this current world order which is feminine to collapse and be repalced by a masculine one where people and tribes are judged by their strength than some false god of equality and diversity.

Do you think in a world where India is growing we, would want to look at our lessers as equals.

When we are strong we should construct and support a morality and worldview that is favourable to the strong.

Most of the western countries (read european) are going through its sunset phase. Eventually we will be among the top ranks of the Leaderboards in terms of power. Do you want a zeitgiest of weakness worship like we have now(wokeness, equality,diversity,etc) because it will not support our situation at that time.

Lions should not support the morality of deers, We are slowly turning into lions.

In that context I dont want supremacist groups to be seen in a bad light. ESPECIALLY THE CONCEPT OF SUPREMACY. SUPREMACY IS A NATURAL FACT OF LIFE. SOME GROUPS AND PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS WHETHER IT BY THEIR ACTIONS - COLLECTIVE OR INDIVIDUAL, GENES,ETC.

If you hate supremacy today and support Stupid equality, tomorrow a paki can claim asylum in india and say that he deserves the reputation and largesse of India because of the principle of equality and tolerance which is the GOD OF THE WEAK.

The russia-ukraine war weakens this order of liberal-democracy and equality worship the more it goes in favor of russia - So I support Russia. Because eventually it will result in an order that is favorable to more capable people like our own who are growing stronger. But at the same time I am silent on actual supremacist groups because supremacy as a concept should be wiped out. Supremacy is good meme to have if you are country going to be strong in the future like us.

Seems like you've been hanging around WESTERN dissident right wing circles for too long.

Problem with that kind of binary is one ends up thinking there'll be no demographic transition ever, that end of history is nigh and that one has the final say or something. And what that usually amounts to is what's happening to Europe at this point in time and a lot of eventual cope.

Bharat doesn't really need to be reactionary, liberal or progressive, we'll do our own thing our own way, find shit out as we go along and hopefully provide a better alternative to ideologies and lifestyles arising from western-atomisation. The rest can seethe.

 

[Akim]

Now, he shouldn't have generalized but that wasn't the own you think it is.
Rightly so, in India all of that bs is relegated to the dregs of society and general depravity is either marginalized or policed, unlike in the occident where it is to a significant degree, glorified.
And I don't know about you but I would rather be unwanted than be wanted for death and degeneracy, which unfortunately a portion of men and women of Ukraine are going through.
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Now onto ontopic discussions.

Trump "requests" Putin to spare Ukrainian soldiers and the Brits bombast the "coalition of the willing" rhetoric.

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• British Prime Minister Keir Starmer says a “coalition of the willing” of Western nations will draw up plans to help secure Ukraine “on the land, at sea, and in the sky” in the event of a peace deal with Russia.
• Russian forces retake control of two settlements in Russia’s Kursk region as military advances continue against invading Ukrainian troops.
• Russia and Ukraine have traded heavy aerial blows with both sides reporting more than 100 enemy drones over their respective territories.
• Ukraine’s largest private energy provider says Russian air strikes damaged its energy facilities in the Dnipropetrovsk and Odesa regions.

Russia-Ukraine updates: ‘Coalition of the willing’ vows Ukraine protection

I have already said that Putler is good at selling fear. There is no encirclement - our General Staff says so. I am generally surprised that Trump trusts Putler more than the CIA. Although I would not be surprised if it was the Trump Administration that passed on the data on the location of our troops to the Kremlin. The Russian troops were advancing too harmoniously, and only when our troops took up new positions and did not share the information with the Pentagon, the Russian offensive stalled.

 

[Vishnugupt]

That's why I'm sending you to the genital area. An Indian talks about Nazism. Ha-ha.

Why can't Indian talk about Nazism ?? Is West or Ukrainian got exclusive right to talk about Nazism??

Another thing, Why do you feel so offended if someone talk about Nazism???

 

[spikey360]

You seem to have a bad history. The first empires did not have overseas colonies. So stop crying about the past. You live TODAY.
And it was not India that defeated Nazism. It was the Anglo-Saxons and the USSR. So it is not your nation to characterize this.

Hello history distortion expert! Time again to call you out.
Nazis were routed with the help of Indian soldiers, hundreds of thousands of them in Europe. Memorials for them exist till date.
Maybe visit your own adopted continent for a change.
We have as much, if not more authority to speak against Nazism, than Europoids.

 

[spikey360]

Britain dropped 900K tons of bombs on Germany. How many of them were produced in India?
The bravery of a Ukrainian soldier will not stop a T-90 if there is nothing in his hands.

See, you can't even respect your own countrymen. Such a vile self loathing Nazi supporting pro Zelensky scum.

 

[spikey360]

I have already said that Putler is good at selling fear. There is no encirclement - our General Staff says so. I am generally surprised that Trump trusts Putler more than the CIA. Although I would not be surprised if it was the Trump Administration that passed on the data on the location of our troops to the Kremlin. The Russian troops were advancing too harmoniously, and only when our troops took up new positions and did not share the information with the Pentagon, the Russian offensive stalled.

Of course you are surprised. You live in a world of illusions, courtesy cocaine snorting Zelensky, who will be hanged any day now by Ukranians more patriotic than yourself.
Trump believes CIA. He doesn't take his inputs from Putin, unlike your favourite cocaine snorter, who doesn't have any intel on ground.
I find it strange that you know troop movement has been done, and it has not been shared with Pentagon. And you claim that Pentagon (or Russia) with eyes in the sky do not know about troop movement. Seriously, which country is your cocaine manufactured in??

 

[spikey360]

Not really, i want this current world order which is feminine to collapse and be repalced by a masculine one where people and tribes are judged by their strength than some false god of equality and diversity.

Do you think in a world where India is growing we, would want to look at our lessers as equals.

When we are strong we should construct and support a morality and worldview that is favourable to the strong.

Most of the western countries (read european) are going through its sunset phase. Eventually we will be among the top ranks of the Leaderboards in terms of power. Do you want a zeitgiest of weakness worship like we have now(wokeness, equality,diversity,etc) because it will not support our situation at that time.

Lions should not support the morality of deers, We are slowly turning into lions.

In that context I dont want supremacist groups to be seen in a bad light. ESPECIALLY THE CONCEPT OF SUPREMACY. SUPREMACY IS A NATURAL FACT OF LIFE. SOME GROUPS AND PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS WHETHER IT BY THEIR ACTIONS - COLLECTIVE OR INDIVIDUAL, GENES,ETC.

If you hate supremacy today and support Stupid equality, tomorrow a paki can claim asylum in india and say that he deserves the reputation and largesse of India because of the principle of equality and tolerance which is the GOD OF THE WEAK.

The russia-ukraine war weakens this order of liberal-democracy and equality worship the more it goes in favor of russia - So I support Russia. Because eventually it will result in an order that is favorable to more capable people like our own who are growing stronger. But at the same time I am silent on actual supremacist groups because supremacy as a concept should be wiped out. Supremacy is good meme to have if you are country going to be strong in the future like us.

I agree with all the talk against the current wave of faggot worship.
I do not agree that Nazism can show us any light.
In fact, Nazi is a very watered down and race poisoned version of Kshatriya Dharm, if you think analytically.
They very cleverly eliminated the codes of self discipline of Kshatriya dharm, and took only the ones which involved strength projection. That's Nazism in a nutshell.

So in brief, if we follow Dharma, as given by Bhagwan Krishna, through his life, through his doings, and through his sermon to Arjun in Kurukshetra, it is sufficient to root out all the evils you have talked about (and I fully agree they need to be eliminated immediately)

 

[Akim]

Of course you are surprised. You live in a world of illusions, courtesy cocaine snorting Zelensky, who will be hanged any day now by Ukranians more patriotic than yourself.
Trump believes CIA. He doesn't take his inputs from Putin, unlike your favourite cocaine snorter, who doesn't have any intel on ground.
I find it strange that you know troop movement has been done, and it has not been shared with Pentagon. And you claim that Pentagon (or Russia) with eyes in the sky do not know about troop movement. Seriously, which country is your cocaine manufactured in??

Ты заебал! Ignore

 

[Akim]

Why can't Indian talk about Nazism ?? Is West or Ukrainian got exclusive right to talk about Nazism??

Another thing, Why do you feel so offended if someone talk about Nazism???

It's like a blind man talking about the sun.

 

[Prasad]

I don't see why any Indian has to support Ukraine.

remember, these MoFo's supplied arms to Pakis.
They didn't care about our feelings when they gave us the middle finger.

These are international relationships, not family problems.
We only support Ukraine when they support us - period.

 

[Bleh]

I'm not believe stop fire.

Understandable... When Chinks bitchslapped the Indian army off the Himalayan borders or when Pakistan did the same at Skardu, we too didn't want to stop. But continuing didn't work out for us & i doubt it will for you.

 

[Akim]

Understandable... When Chinks bitchslapped the Indian army off the Himalayan borders or when Pakistan did the same at Skardu, we too didn't want to stop. But continuing didn't work out for us & i doubt it will for you.

Putler has already refused. And any skirmish is a new intensification of hostilities, where the parties will blame each other.

 

[Cyclops]

I have already said that Putler is good at selling fear. There is no encirclement - our General Staff says so. I am generally surprised that Trump trusts Putler more than the CIA. Although I would not be surprised if it was the Trump Administration that passed on the data on the location of our troops to the Kremlin. The Russian troops were advancing too harmoniously, and only when our troops took up new positions and did not share the information with the Pentagon, the Russian offensive stalled.

I don't know.... encirclement seems pretty convincing.



This is from ISW, they are neocon btw, super-hawkish, in denial about Russia kinda winning and generally refuse to correct their maps for a very long time if Russia is making gains too fast or they do it when there is too much OSINT to stay in denial.
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To me it seems like they are only denying it to give people like Zelensky, more space to operate and do the impossible or at the least, not lose face.


There have been signs for some time now, and encirclement seems more likely.