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[Waanar]

So, bombing guerilla/terrorist groups in Iraq who have no Air defense systems is the biggest achievement of Turkish Air Force?

He doesn't seem to grasp how pathetic that is.
I'll show you something that'll blow your mind-

2012 Turkish F-4 Phantom shootdown - Wikipedia

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These guys lost an aircraft to Syria while they were busy fighting the civil war at it's peak.
This is the kind of shit-tier pilots they have who lose to some of the most antiquated weapon systems on the planet.
This is a "Real Air Force".


Any country with a semblance of Anti Air capability give these guys a hard time.
Just look at the apple of their eye's performance when actually facing any resistance-

Turkey’s Best Drones Are Being Shot Down Over Middle East And Africa

These recent losses over Iraq Kurdistan and Mali may be bad news from a sales perspective.

www.forbes.com

I'll remind you- This is a "Real Air Force", apparently.

Here's some more heartburn, just in case-

View: https://x.com/NotWoofers/status/1901641225540661567

This is PKK btw. Not some nation state.

"Real Air Force".

 

[yasincsoy]

So, bombing guerilla/terrorist groups in Iraq who have no Air defense systems is the biggest achievement of Turkish Air Force?

Your air force may not fly at that area!! It is with high mountains and caves!
You may check Turkish air force in Serbian air campaign! As well

 

[yasincsoy]

He doesn't seem to grasp how pathetic that is.
I'll show you something that'll blow your mind-

2012 Turkish F-4 Phantom shootdown - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These guys lost an aircraft to Syria while they were busy fighting the civil war at it's peak.
This is the kind of shit-tier pilots they have who lose to some of the most antiquated weapon systems on the planet.
This is a "Real Air Force".


Any country with a semblance of Anti Air capability give these guys a hard time.
Just look at the apple of their eye's performance when actually facing any resistance-

Turkey’s Best Drones Are Being Shot Down Over Middle East And Africa

These recent losses over Iraq Kurdistan and Mali may be bad news from a sales perspective.

www.forbes.com

I'll remind you- This is a "Real Air Force", apparently.

Here's some more heartburn, just in case-

View: https://x.com/NotWoofers/status/1901641225540661567

This is PKK btw. Not some nation state.

"Real Air Force".

USA also loses UAVs to yemeni forces! So what?? It only shows that PKK has Iranian systems !

 

[Waanar]

Your air force may not fly at that area!! It is with high mountains and caves!
You may check Turkish air force in Serbian air campaign! As well

LOL. Average elevation of Zagros mountain is 3611 metres and Karakoram (Where our AF flies pretty regularly) is 8611 metres. You're so desperate to win the argument, you're starting to straight up lie.

And since when is flying at high altitudes become a test of a pilot's skill? It's when you're close to the ground that skill really comes into play.
How old are you, Yasin?

 

[Waanar]

USA also loses UAVs to yemeni forces! So what?? It only shows that PKK has Iranian systems !

LOL! So now USA's track record is a relevant benchmark?

When we mentioned US loses aircrafts regularly in peacetime, you were being snobbish but now it's a fair excuse for your "Real Air Force"?

 

[yasincsoy]

A real Air Force? Attacking people with zero counters to aircraft?

I've seen your Air Force's track record. You guys are very dangerous against people without any Air Defense, otherwise you get F16s shot down by Greek Mirages.

Don't come here blabbering about a "Real Air Force" when you have zero history of warring against a country with proper Air Defense or fleet of aircraft. I also love how you posted a few music videos of Turkish AF with very cool edits like that is the proof for being a "real Air Force".
No, that is proof for good video editing skills. ISIS also had those. Didn't give them a good Air Force.
Our Aircraft bombed enemy sites under heavily contested airspace. Meanwhile you're here bragging about bombing a few tunnels with zero threat to your own aircraft.

You should consider thinking once. Not about your claims but just in general. Thinking is a skill you seem to lack.

That aircraft was even with out missiles. It was in training mission. 1 week later same Greeks tasted their own medicine by losing f-16.
Latest taste of their medicine

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhIi-5DzoQ&pp=ygUcVHVya2lzaCBmLTE2IGJ1enogZ3JlZWsgZi0xNg%3D%3D

 

[yasincsoy]

LOL! So now USA's track record is a relevant benchmark?

When we mentioned US loses aircrafts regularly in peacetime, you were being snobbish but now it's a fair excuse for your "Real Air Force"?

They are losing UAVs against a 'force'. Not losing fighters regularly in peacetime!
You actually loses aircraft regularly in war times.

 

[Vinash]

Your air force may not fly at that area!! It is with high mountains and caves!
You may check Turkish air force in Serbian air campaign! As well

Qandil mountains are 3,500 mts high i.e less than half as tall as the Himalayas.

India's Jammu and Kashmir is located at higher altitudes than anything in Turkey and it's surrounding areas.

Turkey topographic map, elevation, terrain

Average elevation: 487 m • Turkey • Turkey's topography is a diverse tapestry of mountains, plateaus, and coastal plains that create a strikingly varied landscape. The country is predominantly characterized by the Anatolian Plateau, a semi-arid highland that stretches across central Turkey, with...

en-gb.topographic-map.com

Frankly, I'm disappointed. I expected Turks to be intelligent. Sadly it seems you are the same as Pakis i.e absolutely no idea about the adversary's capabilities just self-boasting with no data to back up achievements.

 

[Waanar]

Your air force may not fly at that area!! It is with high mountains and caves!
You may check Turkish air force in Serbian air campaign! As well

This is the difference between your "Real Air Force" and our Indian Air Force.

Your peak was a campaign where the entirety of NATO was attacking Serbia. Our AF's peak are attacking peer to peer forces one-on-one and coming out on top like in Kargil, 71 or today.

There's a WORLD of difference between piggybacking on the biggest military alliance on earth and actually fighting one to one.

Do you understand?
I'm actually still in awe that you compared flying through Zagros to Karakoram. That is so uninformed, I'm appalled. I used to think Turks are actually way smarter than the Pakistanis but you're either super young or actually the same level of intellect.

 

[yasincsoy]

LOL. Average elevation of Zagros mountain is 3611 metres and Karakoram (Where our AF flies pretty regularly) is 8611 metres. You're so desperate to win the argument, you're starting to straight up lie.

And since when is flying at high altitudes become a test of a pilot's skill? It's when you're close to the ground that skill really comes into play.
How old are you, Yasin?

Not flying, but bombing the caves from their entries in deep mountains is

 

[Waanar]

They are losing UAVs against a 'force'. Not losing fighters regularly in peacetime!
You actually loses aircraft regularly in war times.

Are you serious? USA loses fully functional F35s in peacetime in regular sorties. You should actually google before saying stuff like this.

 

[yasincsoy]

This is the difference between your "Real Air Force" and our Indian Air Force.

Your peak was a campaign where the entirety of NATO was attacking Serbia. Our AF's peak are attacking peer to peer forces one-on-one and coming out on top like in Kargil, 71 or today.

There's a WORLD of difference between piggybacking on the biggest military alliance on earth and actually fighting one to one.

Do you understand?
I'm actually still in awe that you compared flying through Zagros to Karakoram. That is so uninformed, I'm appalled. I used to think Turks are actually way smarter than the Pakistanis but you're either super young or actually the same level of intellect.

Civilian aircrafts also fly so high!! They should be perfect pilots right!! First try to get what I say!! Hitting targets(cave entries etc.) which are well hidden in mountains and doing this with low flying in taht terrain is the pilot skill! Not just flying above them!
Are you able to comprehend now?

 

[yasincsoy]

Are you serious? USA loses fully functional F35s in peacetime in regular sorties. You should actually google before saying stuff like this.

USA with so many aircraft loses less than 10 aircraft per year. It was less than 5 before f-35 got operational.
F-35 uses so many software for it's control etc. it is not due air force but due nature of that fifth gen aircrafts with ai.

 

[Waanar]

Not flying, but bombing the caves from their entries in deep mountains is

Our planes go in and bomb heavily guarded Pakistani airbases (not terrorists hiding in caves) through Karakoram and you are comparing a high altitude bombing in literally uncontested airspace in mountain ranges which are literally less than HALF the elevation of Karakoram to our AF's work. See, all those cool edits of Turkish AF have gone to your head.

You should actually go and read about some operations of both Indian and Turkish Air Force and compare. You will be shocked how good our Air Force is and how little yours has actually achieved in recent memory.

Or you could continue arguing like a child without providing any sources.


Comparing Zagros to the mountains of Uttarakhand and Kashmir lol. What a joke.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Your air force may not fly at that area!! It is with high mountains and caves!
You may check Turkish air force in Serbian air campaign! As well

Serbia, the one where you guys fought with NATO?

 

[Waanar]

Civilian aircrafts also fly so high!! They should be perfect pilots right!! First try to get what I say!! Hitting targets(cave entries etc.) which are well hidden in mountains and doing this with low flying in taht terrain is the pilot skill! Not just flying above them!
Are you able to comprehend now?

And I am saying the same thing. Your pilots have zero reason to fly close to the ground. All of their bombings are high altitude in Iraq or Syria.
They are not threatened by SAMs and MANPADs are effective the closer they are to the ground.
Here you are again, comparing fighting a country with the newest SAMs to bombing some miltias in the middle of nowhere with zero counters to aircraft.

So either your pilots are suicidal unprofessional cockpit dwellers who don't understand the basics of air warfare or you're lying and they actually know what they're doing and weren't flying close to the ground on real operations.

 

[yasincsoy]

Serbia, the one where you guys fought with NATO?

Your guys asked about an adversary with air defense system!!

 

[chnvipgz]

Right, you have standards that is why you destroy so many of your planes

Your own tharki airforce bombed your own country and killed many ,such is the indiscipline in your defence force.
After the coup by turkish airforce pilots your whole airforce is down and hardly any sorties are flown hence erdo sold his daughter to baykar to add baykar drones out of fear from indiscipline and low skill turk pilots but baykar drones are really bekar and failed in contested battlefield hence used on rag tags in Kurdistan and syria.

 

[Waanar]

Serbia, the one where you guys fought with NATO?

He's comparing some 20 countries attacking a single small, sparsely populated Eastern European nation (of which his Air Force was a part) to our AF attacking a full fledged nuclear state with new Chinese toys and at full alert.
This, according to him, is peak Turkish Air Force performance. This also happened some 35 years ago.

Grasping at straws but the straws are rotten too.

Man, Turks are just like Pakistanis.... I always thought you guys were exaggerating in the other thread.

 

[yasincsoy]

Your own tharki airforce bombed your own country and killed many ,such is the indiscipline in your defence force.

We bombed them thinking as PKK members. They are smugglers. So we are not so sorry for them.