TEDBF or ORCA Updates

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Who said angled stealth planform shaping kills lift but curved body doesn't??????
Since say 1950 in just 75 years we have NOT reached the dead end & the zenith of naval jet design with Rafale. Every naval jet doesnt have to be like Rafale or a delta-canard.
But still if we search for "stealth rafale" then we get come good conceptual CADs:

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-rafale-2-stealth-model-2075399

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But the above concept is an inflated stealth Rafale, as big as F-22 or YF-23.

Just like France skipped 5gen with FCAS/SCAF & surprised the world, it can surprise again with stealth naval jet any time. Time will tell soon.

Approximate scaled comparison of the stealth Rafale fan concept Vs current TEDBF design.

 

[randombully]

Approximate scaled comparison of the stealth Rafale fan concept Vs current TEDBF design.

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France has confirmed that fcas is designed with carrier operations in mind, just like rafale was.

Dassault confirms the Future Combat Air System will operate from aircraft carriers - Naval News

In October 2018, during the last edition of Euronaval, Dassault Aviation unveiled a scale model of what could become the Franco-German Future Combat Air System (FCAS) or Système de Combat Aérien Futur (SCAF). This first model displayed a tailless delta-winged aircraft clearly inspired by...

www.navalnews.com

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

France has confirmed that fcas is designed with carrier operations in mind, just like rafale was.

Dassault confirms the Future Combat Air System will operate from aircraft carriers - Naval News

In October 2018, during the last edition of Euronaval, Dassault Aviation unveiled a scale model of what could become the Franco-German Future Combat Air System (FCAS) or Système de Combat Aérien Futur (SCAF). This first model displayed a tailless delta-winged aircraft clearly inspired by...

www.navalnews.com

Yes you shared that earlier. I hope we won't require that if our JV developes 210 KN wet thrust class VCE which would be a lifetime kind of opportunity, now or never.

 

[Spitfire IX]

There is a feature today on Indian Defence Updates suggesting that TEDBF is to be redesigned to become a 5G fighter. Any real chance of that happening?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0rBi67_Vt4

 

[Asmodeus]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1910768126914158713

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Some new poor quality images of TEDBF have emerged.
It looks like modified Rafale.
Even after IN indicating 5gen TEDBF, AFAIK there is no official response from ADA on it.

 

[Gyyaan]

Some new poor quality images of TEDBF have emerged.
It looks like modified Rafale.
Even after IN indicating 5gen TEDBF, AFAIK there is no official response from ADA on it.

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Extra Weapons could be carried by drones imo.
2040ish me 4.5th gen makes no sense unless you are taking the KF-21 route.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Extra Weapons could be carried by drones imo.
2040ish me 4.5th gen makes no sense unless you are taking the KF-21 route.

UCAVs are future but a different matter altogether.

You won't believe that some people on some forums are strictly against 5gen TEDBF & quoting many reasons to justify fleet of 4.5gen for next 40-60 years.
They say that -
- bcoz of supersonic & hypersonic BIG weapons like , Kinzal, etc which cannot be carried internally, a stealth naval jet is pointless. They wan't bomber weapons in a fighter or no 5gen.
- China won't ever send even 1 CBG (Carrier Battle Group), so we won't face J-35, J-50.
- Pakistan Navy doesn't need to be countered by our 5gen TEDBF. So Pakistan will automatically decide our tech progress.
- Apart from these 2 nations ther are no naval threats, so no 5gen TEDBF needed.

They don't wanna understand that enemy SAMs, AAMs also improving.

 

[Ajatshatru]

UCAVs are future but a different matter altogether.

You won't believe that some people on some forums are strictly against 5gen TEDBF & quoting many reasons to justify fleet of 4.5gen for next 40-60 years.
They say that -
- bcoz of supersonic & hypersonic BIG weapons like , Kinzal, etc which cannot be carried internally, a stealth naval jet is pointless. They wan't bomber weapons in a fighter or no 5gen.
- China won't ever send even 1 CBG (Carrier Battle Group), so we won't face J-35, J-50.
- Pakistan Navy doesn't need to be countered by our 5gen TEDBF. So Pakistan will automatically decide our tech progress.
- Apart from these 2 nations ther are no naval threats, so no 5gen TEDBF needed.

They don't wanna understand that enemy SAMs, AAMs also improving.

With the Kaveri engine currently undergoing testing and certification, I am confident that India has already achieved 100% indigenous heavy drone manufacturing capability. As more data becomes available and BrahMos Aerospace works on developing a wet thrust variant of the Kaveri engine for larger drones—beyond the GHATAK UCAV—India will move even closer to developing a fully indigenous turbofan engine for fighter jets.