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[GaudaNaresh]

i predicted this would happen, because trump does not understand the tarrifs game.
he often cites the US presidents of late 1800s when US had an even tougher tarriff regime than under Trump and 1880s to 1905 is when USA caught up to and surpassed UK in industrial production capacity.

So trump's logic is ' murrica became superpowwa under tariff regime, so time to level up again'

Except he forgot one thing - that supply chains of 1880s is not supply chains of 2025. Back then, supply chains were ALL localized unless dealing in exotic goods that cannot be made everywhere ( ie, buy cotton from india/usa, process it elsewhere). Back then, when Ford sold model T to UK, every single thing about the ford T was made in USA- from nuts and bolts to the engine to even the raw steel.
Same when UK sold its trains to USA - every single component was made in-house in UK.

So when you said '50% tarriff on your trains, muahahaha' you are just tarrifing british/foreign industrial production and not hurting your own.

Today, the supply chains are too integrated globally. That means, it doesnt matter if you are making stuff in USA or CHina or India, reality is, your steel will come from china, your nut will come from sri lanka, the bolt will be made locally, etc etc.

This spider-web of interdependencies in supply chain makes tarrifs a 'i shoot you AND me' move - because there is no way to tarriff a nation today without having part of your OWN industry screwed coz they are part of THAT country's supply chain in that industrial sector.

Long story short, Trump came prepared this time, reading all the brilliant moves of Hannibal Barca and mastering them. Too bad this isnt 200 BCE and tanks and drones dont give a shit about hannibals double-envelopment move, so u still lose.

 

[crazywithmath]

I was comparing Tesla to Disney.
If Tesla is worth 60-80, then Disney should be selling for a dollar, considering how bad the last few years has been for the company.

That US$ 60-80 mark I came up with is not a random estimate. Other EV makers (yes, tesla is still a car company and not a tech giant; irrespective of their tall claims) with better products and favorable indicators are valued at < US$ 50. Tesla, right now, is worth more than the next 8 most valuable carmakers combined; that valutaion makes no sense.

They had the first mover's advantage but have been sitting quietly on those laurels for years now. The latest products are uninspiring and not to mention that the chong and the European carmakers have started coming up with better products - which is why their sales have started crashing globally. Additionally, Elmo's tantrums have started upsetting the EV buyers (who lean left) across those gora nations - this probably will not end well for him because the average MAGAtard is not going to buy an EV.

Tesla stocks have long been compared with memecoins and for good reasons. If you look carefully, the wise money (institutional investors) has started deserting Tesla and the stupid money (retail investors) has joined in on instead - if the usual market dynamics are to hold, this is not really an encouraging sign.

Interestingly, that company has crazy high insider shareholding and even they have started offloading in the markets. Ergo, if you are an investor in American equities, stay away from Tesla.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

That US$ 60-80 mark I came up with is not a random estimate. Other EV makers (yes, tesla is still a car company and not a tech giant; irrespective of their tall claims) with better products and favorable indicators are valued at < US$ 50. Tesla, right now, is worth more than the next 8 most valuable carmakers combined; that valutaion makes no sense.

They had the first mover's advantage but have been sitting quietly on those laurels for years now. The latest products are uninspiring and not to mention that the chong and the European carmakers have started coming up with better products - which is why their sales have started crashing globally. Additionally, Elmo's tantrums have started upsetting the EV buyers (who lean left) across those gora nations - this probably will not end well for him because the average MAGAtard is not going to buy an EV.

Tesla stocks have long been compared with memecoins and for good reasons. If you look carefully, the wise money (institutional investors) has started deserting Tesla and the stupid money (retail investors) has joined in on instead - if the usual market dynamics are to hold, this is not really an encouraging sign.

Interestingly, that company has crazy high insider shareholding and even they have started offloading in the markets. Ergo, if you are an investor in American equities, stay away from Tesla.

This i agree with.
I am no financial expert, but i will say this - those who are thinking of shorting Tesla - DO NOT.

Tesla is one of the most overvalued stocks on the planet, which defies even MBA+ CMA holding financial planners- i know coz i have asked MY planner about tesla before and his comment was 'would you buy a shoe-box designed to look like 1995 tombraider Angelina Jolies triangle tits for a car at 70K ? No, right ? Yet tesla made that and their stock rose in value. If even Rolls Royce made that, they woldnt sell more than 4 cars of that model. So dont ask me about tesla, its like its got an antigravity field around it or something'.

Tesla is loooooooong overdue for a correction and this is the inevitable slide of tesla from being Ford of ford Model T era to being just another name that may or may not make it past 2040.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

"No!!! why you retaliate? just take it lying down, THANK YOU"

 

[Corvus Splendens]

And here is the other screeching in impotent rage. If there's one good thing to come out of this shitfest, it's this massive slap in the face to choinse economy. Now stack on tariffs and counter tariffs till one side (preferably the chowman) loses all economic growth, stagnates and then regresses. Trump's tariff diplomacy is also an encouragement for international manufacturers to get out of choina.

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[The Juggernaut]

View: https://x.com/AryamanBharat/status/1909265951423414312

 

[Corvus Splendens]

They might actually do it. They'll strike facilities from a stand-off range. No way they tasked 6 B-2s to just strike the Houthis.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

They might actually do it. They'll strike facilities from a stand-off range. No way they tasked 6 B-2s to just strike the Houthis.
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At this point, i am not even sure if Iran doesnt welcome some outside bombing - their society is severely collapsing from inside due to the world's worst water crisis.

This is a closely guarded secret inside Iran, but reality is, their population is dying of thirst or will soon : they have also over-engineered their dam building ( dam builders in Iran are part of IRGC, so they are like paki military owning cement company - massive corruption and substandard quality).

heck, they fucked up their MAIN river - karun river- by building a dam RIGHT ON A SALT FLAT part of the karun river - turning the reservoir into a salt water reservoir that not only cant be used to irrigate, its actually poisoning the groundwater around it.

They are in such dire straits that they are seeking a new capital coz Tehran is running dry and they are planning on diverting Aras river in the north to meet Tabriz's water requirements. Only one problem : Aras river is one of the top 10 rivers in the world for heavy metal contamination ( blame the Armenians - they run soviet style factories that dump straigh arsenic, molybdenum etc into the river untreated).


So at this point Iran might actually see some bombing from the great satan as a good thing - gives them a reason to rally the population AND get rid of some of them to solve the water crisis.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

They might actually do it. They'll strike facilities from a stand-off range. No way they tasked 6 B-2s to just strike the Houthis.
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The six B-2s staged at Diego Garcia

 

[spindrift]

View: https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1909404854222528731

 

[johny_baba]

At this point, i am not even sure if Iran doesnt welcome some outside bombing - their society is severely collapsing from inside due to the world's worst water crisis.

This is a closely guarded secret inside Iran, but reality is, their population is dying of thirst or will soon : they have also over-engineered their dam building ( dam builders in Iran are part of IRGC, so they are like paki military owning cement company - massive corruption and substandard quality).

heck, they fucked up their MAIN river - karun river- by building a dam RIGHT ON A SALT FLAT part of the karun river - turning the reservoir into a salt water reservoir that not only cant be used to irrigate, its actually poisoning the groundwater around it.

They are in such dire straits that they are seeking a new capital coz Tehran is running dry and they are planning on diverting Aras river in the north to meet Tabriz's water requirements. Only one problem : Aras river is one of the top 10 rivers in the world for heavy metal contamination ( blame the Armenians - they run soviet style factories that dump straigh arsenic, molybdenum etc into the river untreated).


So at this point Iran might actually see some bombing from the great satan as a good thing - gives them a reason to rally the population AND get rid of some of them to solve the water crisis.

it's also a thing that lots of youthia there is turning their heads away from Islam, many are secretly getting baptised to one or other sects of Christianity, so if any big scale invasion happens, they may find some part of their population actually supporting the invaders for just these things

 

[Cheepek]

Unraveling so quick already


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1909671966748913883?t=oxiuph2eenFJNUzmeROWgg&s=19

 

[crazywithmath]

Unraveling so quick already


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1909671966748913883?t=oxiuph2eenFJNUzmeROWgg&s=19

Such a punchable face tho, lol. I wonder how the media folks control the urge...

To be perfectly honest tho, even Biden had a very annoying spokeswoman.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

it's also a thing that lots of youthia there is turning their heads away from Islam, many are secretly getting baptised to one or other sects of Christianity, so if any big scale invasion happens, they may find some part of their population actually supporting the invaders for just these things

those are baiscally western propaganda on iran.
Muslims dont convert to Christianity. And why would they ? Christianity is literally the same religion with even more inconsistent dehati nonsnse. At least the koran doesnt contradict itself every 3 pages like the Bible does ( eg: humans come from Adam and Eve, yet the two sons fo Adam and Eve - Cain and Abel, went to the land of nod to find wives. This is in genesis WTF. who are these Nod-ians and how are we from JUST adam and eve if these Nod-ians exist ??)

This is why muslims becoming christians is an extremely rare phenomena in the world - islam is basically a debugged version of Christianity.
Still evil demon worship, but at least it isnt 'system crash every 4 seconds coz its buggy as hell'.

PS: Vancouver has a huge Iranian-Canadian population (approx 75,000) and i have interacted with them, even dated Iranian women. iranians are 10% kattar musalmaan types and 90% Sallu bhai takree types. They will go to mosque for friday prayer and hit liquor store on way back. They also cant stand pakis because they, like the more moderate dubai arabs, HATE that pakis act like thekeydaars of islam.

So if there is a 5th column growing in Iran, its the libbu column, not christian column.

 

[Kedar]

Such a punchable face tho, lol. I wonder how the media folks control the urge...

To be perfectly honest tho, even Biden had a very annoying spokeswoman.

Same as your entitled disapprovals here of a country that you are not citizen of...btw TSLA or anyother stock is worth as much as they are becayse the market says so, pulling some random numbers out of your behind isn't worth shit. Try to restrain your dislikes of something, world doesn't need your approval or mine.

 

[crazywithmath]

Same as your entitled disapprovals here of a country that you are not citizen of...btw TSLA or anyother stock is worth as much as they are becayse the market says so, pulling some random numbers out of your behind isn't worth shit.

Dafuq that is supposed to mean, chud boy? TSLA is down today, not that I care about it anyway.

The first time I suggested a short position (about 3 weeks back) they were trading at $ 270+, seems a very accurate prediction to me.

You are right tho, those 'random numbers' ain't worth shit. So why do you keep getting triggered?

Try to restrain your dislikes of something, world doesn't need your approval or mine.

Lel. The only one seeking approval here is you, constantly responding to my posts despite being politely told to fuck off. I don't get you, do you want me to stomp on you or something, chud boy?

 

[crazywithmath]

those are baiscally western propaganda on iran.
Muslims dont convert to Christianity. And why would they ? Christianity is literally the same religion with even more inconsistent dehati nonsnse. At least the koran doesnt contradict itself every 3 pages like the Bible does ( eg: humans come from Adam and Eve, yet the two sons fo Adam and Eve - Cain and Abel, went to the land of nod to find wives. This is in genesis WTF. who are these Nod-ians and how are we from JUST adam and eve if these Nod-ians exist ??)

This is why muslims becoming christians is an extremely rare phenomena in the world - islam is basically a debugged version of Christianity.
Still evil demon worship, but at least it isnt 'system crash every 4 seconds coz its buggy as hell'.

PS: Vancouver has a huge Iranian-Canadian population (approx 75,000) and i have interacted with them, even dated Iranian women. iranians are 10% kattar musalmaan types and 90% Sallu bhai takree types. They will go to mosque for friday prayer and hit liquor store on way back. They also cant stand pakis because they, like the more moderate dubai arabs, HATE that pakis act like thekeydaars of islam.

So if there is a 5th column growing in Iran, its the libbu column, not christian column.

You say this but there is a very genuine anti-religion movement in Iran. Not all of that is propaganda.

I was reading the ordeal of some American spy the other day - poor fella was working at some nuclear facility in Iran but got abandoned by the burgerboys once his cover got blown. Guy secretly assembled hundreds of 'secularists' (all of whom worked in and around the facility and were directly employed by the Iranian regime) - those guys despised the mulla regime and Islam.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Same as your entitled disapprovals here of a country that you are not citizen of...btw TSLA or anyother stock is worth as much as they are becayse the market says so, pulling some random numbers out of your behind isn't worth shit. Try to restrain your dislikes of something, world doesn't need your approval or mine.

If this guy is related to kapil Sibal, he deserves more than a punch to the face. And i too am saying this as a non indian citizen.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

You say this but there is a very genuine anti-religion movement in Iran. Not all of that is propaganda.

I was reading the ordeal of some American spy the other day - poor fella was working at some nuclear facility in Iran but got abandoned by the burgerboys once his cover got blown. Guy secretly assembled hundreds of 'secularists' (all of whom worked in and around the facility and were directly employed by the Iranian regime) - those guys despised the mulla regime and Islam.

Did you even READ what i posted ? I literally said if there is a 5th column in Iran, its the non religious libbu column....i am disputing the notion that iranians are turning secretly christian. Secularists are not christoids.
Christoids are basically a buggy version of isloos.

 

[crazywithmath]

If this guy is related to kapil Sibal, he deserves more than a punch to the face. And i too am saying this as a non indian citizen.

Haha it was a light hearted comment, nothing too serious. Being a spokesperson is a thankless job, even the BJP spokies are super annoying.