Indian Special Forces

na Britain was never kinda trash at this....it's their bread and butter
Britian now isn’t the same Britian as GWOT era I reckon. Britian now are a bunch of woke Pakis.
Have to agree to an extent. Israelis are pretty good but the gold standard are U.K./US and French (Germans only really on the HR side but not DA or long range offensive stuff). Russians might be interesting to have feedback from given they have fought a peer conflict but maybe more so in just what not to do

The issue is again the Indian system is so poorly structured that lessons can never be learned and institutionalised. One team might train with x, another with y and when they get back they apply those lessons for a few years then they leave/promote. India needs a permanent dedicated SOF C&C with permanent structures, already all the lessons from the surgical strikes of 2016 are likely gone out of the para battalions, 26/11 knowledge was gone By the early 2010s from NSG etc

All good getting foreign instructors but if you can’t even learn your own lessons you’re constantly going to be starting from square one
Israelis, no offense, are an incomparable country. The Indian military has to deal with both conventional and counter insurgency threats. The French are a pretty good standard whom I’d view as a “big brother” to us in that regard given their actions in Africa we can learn a two or thing from.

Americans are must. One thing that has not gone woke in the U.S. army is the special forces. The operators, while probably not as violent as Indian ones, are still experienced and technically advanced. They can instill that “operator” mentality and shift Indian SF from that commando mentality. Not to mention many of them have sympathy for Indian forces given the Pak China threat and mutual intretests.
 
Britian now isn’t the same Britian as GWOT era I reckon. Britian now are a bunch of woke Pakis.

Israelis, no offense, are an incomparable country. The Indian military has to deal with both conventional and counter insurgency threats. The French are a pretty good standard whom I’d view as a “big brother” to us in that regard given their actions in Africa we can learn a two or thing from.

Americans are must. One thing that has not gone woke in the U.S. army is the special forces. The operators, while probably not as violent as Indian ones, are still experienced and technically advanced. They can instill that “operator” mentality and shift Indian SF from that commando mentality. Not to mention many of them have sympathy for Indian forces given the Pak China threat and mutual intretests.
Britain SF modernisation plan of 2024 is what Para SF cant even dream of even in their worst days and our best budget till now.
 
Have to agree to an extent. Israelis are pretty good but the gold standard are U.K./US and French (Germans only really on the HR side but not DA or long range offensive stuff). Russians might be interesting to have feedback from given they have fought a peer conflict but maybe more so in just what not to do

The issue is again the Indian system is so poorly structured that lessons can never be learned and institutionalised. One team might train with x, another with y and when they get back they apply those lessons for a few years then they leave/promote. India needs a permanent dedicated SOF C&C with permanent structures, already all the lessons from the surgical strikes of 2016 are likely gone out of the para battalions, 26/11 knowledge was gone By the early 2010s from NSG etc

All good getting foreign instructors but if you can’t even learn your own lessons you’re constantly going to be starting from square one
US in terms of anything Special Operations, military tech and aviation related >>>>>>>
All of the other things you wrote are true to the core.
 
Just shows had lackluster the Indian Military is, nothing else. Even southeast asian militaries have superior modernization plans to whatever the hell Para SF has
Humble them in their low budget Dear Para SF…Humble them they are poor and have lesser budget…humble them for their time is gone and ours has come…

Haha we are self bragging jokers



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IMO This was not really "Infantry" the Unit Defended the bridge showing outstanding Small unit tactics against an Mech Opfor - was classic Commando action.
In this battle another infantry (7 kumaon) unit literally fought from unprepared positions as their mortars had been wiped by aritllley and the enemy assault came as soon as they deployed.

Horrible failure on the side of the Pakistanis they got absolutely destroyed by A battalion and a company.
 
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Britian now isn’t the same Britian as GWOT era I reckon. Britian now are a bunch of woke Pakis.
bhai GWOT abhi khatam hua hai legit

UKSF comprises of 22 SAS, SBS, 18 UKSF (Signals) and SRR

It all together including support personnel the combined strength of UKSF is roughly 2000 (less than the entire Para SF, let alone SOCOM)

And these 2000 or so people, count about a quarter are busy in United Kingdom only for domestic support, other than that these few guys have been operating in over 19 countries over the past decade, that being said 19 is what we know of, could be more

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bhai GWOT abhi khatam hua hai legit

UKSF comprises of 22 SAS, SBS, 18 UKSF (Signals) and SRR

It all together including support personnel the combined strength of UKSF is roughly 2000 (less than the entire Para SF, let alone SOCOM)

And these 2000 or so people, count about a quarter are busy in United Kingdom only for domestic support, other than that these few guys have been operating in over 19 countries over the past decade, that being said 19 is what we know of, could be more

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Do you understand what this means, they are busy as fuck all the time.

I really admire their deployment cycle.

For example, American SOF units outside of JSOC typically follow an 18-month pre-deployment training cycle, followed by a 6-month deployment.

JSOC, however, operates differently. Their cycle runs on a 3-month rotation: 3 months of pre-deployment, 3 months deployed, then 3 months on standby.

This model is possible because of their larger budget and greater manpower—they can delegate SOCOM units for conventional and sub-conventional tasks while reserving JSOC primarily for counter-terrorism.

UKSF, by contrast, handles all of it under one roof. Their model is incredibly streamlined—so much so that it’s often considered close to perfect.

6-months pre-deployment
6-months deployment
6-months standby/contingency
6-months domestic counter terrorism duties
 
Britian now isn’t the same Britian as GWOT era I reckon. Britian now are a bunch of woke Pakis.

Israelis, no offense, are an incomparable country. The Indian military has to deal with both conventional and counter insurgency threats. The French are a pretty good standard whom I’d view as a “big brother” to us in that regard given their actions in Africa we can learn a two or thing from.

Americans are must. One thing that has not gone woke in the U.S. army is the special forces. The operators, while probably not as violent as Indian ones, are still experienced and technically advanced. They can instill that “operator” mentality and shift Indian SF from that commando mentality. Not to mention many of them have sympathy for Indian forces given the Pak China threat and mutual
Maybe not that woke but they have got a bit softer as the tail end of GWOT approached- see the story of Eddie Gallagher effectively being mutinied by younger SEALs on their first deployment whilst he was on his 7/8th.

If India could get a few dozen tier 2 (forget tier 1) US SOF who had served 2005-2012 in GWOT they could transform the entire SF community in India- tactically that is, organisationally and strategic equipment requires an institutional overhaul like I mentioned above and no one is even attempting this, only after more SF privileges
Britain SF modernisation plan of 2024 is what Para SF cant even dream of even in their worst days and our best budget till now.
There’s a Para modernisation plan? A few squads (not even battalions) using discretionary funding to buy some off the shelf combat t-shirts for foreign exercises is not modernisation


US in terms of anything Special Operations, military tech and aviation related >>>>>>>
All of the other things you wrote are true to the core.
And it’s not even close. As I said before CAG and JSOC in general are league above anything in existence, they are arguably more capable and powerful than most of the militaries in the world

CAG’s setup and raw performance is on another planet compared to what anyone else has, even from what is publicly available their assets are absurd.

PSO's have relaxed grooming standards?
‘Special’ forces for PSO roles in peacetime in the interior of your country, talk about role creep.
 

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