No government after Narendra Modi will be able to reverse the precedent set by Narendra Modi. Any government that comes to power will be compelled to respond even more aggressively than Modi in the event of a terrorist attack on India.
only, Talwar, Shivalik, Nilgiri, Kolkata, Vizag all these ship classes run it.
What about the 2 x Agosta 90B submarines that were in service during that time?Yes 1 EMB-145 and 1 saab2000
This is result from this scenario
- HQ9BE was not available so gave them HQ9B, which performed better than I expected and scored multiple MIG-29K and a UAV kill. MIG29K only had R77 in this simulation, it was subpar v/s AIM120C5 and P15E.
- MIG-29K tried to challenge first PAF counter attack but 2 of them were shot down (1 by PL-15E and 1 by AIM-120C5). Rest were shot down by HQ9B during initial defense and later Rampage attacks. I avoided defense by MIG-29K subsequently and let PAF launch their volleys.
- 12x Jaguar were used too and none were downed/damaged. Harpoon claimed 2x ships.
- SU30MKI were used for CAP and
- Klubs (ship launched) and KH-35 were not that effective. But they were heavily used in the first volley. They got depleted and were not really available for later rounds.
- 1
- 1 Babur SSM regiment (total 16 missiles) SSM regiment was placed around Karachi. It launched all 16 missiles at Jamnagar refinery. Made it past S400 which didn't launch on it, all 16 missiles were intercepted (most of them close to Jamnagar) by AD guns & Spider SAM (python 5) placed next to refinery and Akash (from Jamnagar Airbase) to a limited extent.
- Both IAF and PAF used AAM missiles to shoot down subsonic missiles like Babur & KH35.
- IN opening volley was not as effective as I would have thought. There was no surprise as Pakistan MPAs and AEW&CS (also ELINT) detected launches pretty quickly. Quite a bit of interceptions happened in the first round and only 1 PN ship was sunk in this. It was the second round and later where more and more brahmos started leaking through and sinking ships.
- Submarine units were added but I wasn't able to make them launch anti-ship or land attack missiles.
- IN MH60R were performing ASW operations.
- KA31 AEW was effective
Conclusion
- PN surface fleet sunk
- Karachi port destroyed
- Ormara port hit and likely destroyed (I messed up by not setting medium/large pier size)
- Karachi refinery destroyed
- Karachi HQ9B regiment destroyed
- Hits on Karachi and Bholari airbases. Was not able to launch Rampages on Pasni as MIG29K didn't have enough fuel range.
- IN CBG and SAGs were able to intercept all threats. Still have around 40% of Barak8/MRSAM left.
- In terms of terminal velocity:
CM400 = 2.4 mach when diving down (not ideal flight profile for Ashm, it is more akin to KH22)
This was the setup
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So no Su57, then what's our plan?
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Could be that there are many "Congressiya" babus still in govt trying to sabotage it by being deliberately sloppy? Only eternal vigilance (like in this case) will prevent things like this.
All modern air to air missile exceed mach 4+ in top speed, some going hypersonic in top speed.
This you sure? Not debating or defending BJP or anyone but on realistic scale goras are not able to save their own lesbian daughter's from Islamists what makes you sure about them saving yours? Congress is anything but Hindu, they have deviated so much from Hindus that whatever they do or think will always be in support of Islamists.
Mist Dada. We are not getting F-35 even with the Pappu-et leader. Wake up from dream about 120+ F-35s and drink water. All we will have is more Bofors and MRCA hangama. Under UPA it's not like foreign procurement were superfast. Just look at the delays in MRCA, Vikramaditya, AgustaWestland scandal, etc. This government atleast fast-tracked the Rafale purchase. And atleast brought a comprise between IAF and HAL to give a lifeline to Tejas under Parikar. Otherwise Tejas was in eternal limbo under previous government. They also tried bringing reforms to defence sector as whole which has helped IAF as well with DAP 2016, DAP 2020, etc. The private drone manufacturing industry didn't came out of thin air. While yes this government certainly has failed to solve many problems of IAF, it certainly hasn't been as worse as UPA.
I garuntee it will most certainly not happen, even when there was enormous pressure and will to strike pakistan, Indian govt. chose to only target terror camps risking IAF assets with a disadvantageous ROE & no SEAD/DEAD.
What bide your time? See we need to put cost on Lumber1 that any misadventure would cost them more than just staying silent. Things shouldn't escalate to point it where its optimized to sit between Inaction and Skirmish. Biding you time doesn't work out when you have monthly terror attack. You need to strike their AF bases to take out their planes every now and then.
