Chit Chat

[Atheist]

Yes, but again it is easier to say than to do it. A city ruined by mass migration, lack of urban planning and generally being in a lower-middle income country would be a shithole. No cope will change the reality.

How do you judge a person to be educated?

Opportunities don't pop up out of thin air, what next? "Oh Saudi discovered lot's of oil what's stopping us".

Yeah a city is comparable to a large country like India. "Do this do that" yawn.

That's precisely the problem

They got rich a long time ago, you surely can't grasp the difference between a low income and high income country.

People aren't voting for religion lmao, BJP literally lost Ayodhya seat last year despite Ram Mandir inauguration. World doesn't work according to the fictional assumptions LeLi's cook in their minds.


Yeah sure, you certainly have large sample sizes and surveys to prove that.

Yes it’s easier said than doing, but start addressing these issues first! We are even failing to do that.
Let me ask, is it even a topic of discussion among Indians? I mean about urban planning, discipline on roads and traffic, cleanliness? No.
We are used to ignore them. That’s the problem.

Educated- I don’t want to play with words here. But those who do job and earn moderate or good.

Opportunities- I told u an example-
Bihar, important place for Buddhism. We could have earned millions from many eastern and south eastern countries. That alone could have generated revenues and many job opportunities. Do I need to talk about how Bihar is performing!

Why not?

That’s why I showed you examples like Rwanda. You should do a little more research on that country, especially their capital Kigali.

 

[Atheist]

due to 78% hindus nd additional 2% (sikh, buddhist nd jain)...they r all called hindus by constitution. so 80% people r paying taxes...in india economic activities most happened in hindu festivals. beside this many hindus temple donation money goes to government budget. now tell me indian atheist contribution...

People save for festivals.
If not, they would have distributed their spending’s throughout the year.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Yes it’s easier said than doing, but start addressing these issues first! We are even failing to do that.
Let me ask, is it even a topic of discussion among Indians? I mean about urban planning, discipline on roads and traffic, cleanliness? No.
We are used to ignore them. That’s the problem.

Educated- I don’t want to play with words here. But those who do job and earn moderate or good.

Opportunities- I told u an example-
Bihar, important place for Buddhism. We could have earned millions from many eastern and south eastern countries. That alone could have generated revenues and many job opportunities. Do I need to talk about how Bihar is performing!

Why not?

That’s why I showed you examples like Rwanda. You should do a little more research on that country, especially their capital Kigali.

why u should earn from buddhist place??? make ur own athiest temple nd earn revenue .

 

[FalconSlayers]

You know the challenge one person took in Rwanda?
Find any piece of paper on road there. And he failed.


View: https://youtu.be/t-Edpqe_ri0?si=qMfjYIcZS-ybg8E9
Also look at the slabs there. Broken, pieces of papers.

Yeah I'm supposed to be jealous because some random city in India has some more pieces of paper than the largest and wealthiest city of a country's poshest areas lol.

That's like a kid bragging of keeping his hostel room clean as his biggest achievement while failing exams mocking another guy with a dirtier hostel room but scoring atleast above average.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

People save for festivals.
If not, they would have distributed their spending’s throughout the year.

only for high price things like cars, bikes etc...not for most things they buy in festivals. my middle class family never save money for specific festivals. that i see with most people around us.

 

[Atheist]

why u should earn from buddhist place??? make ur own athiest temple nd earn revenue .

Looks you still didn’t get my point since the beginning.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Yes it’s easier said than doing, but start addressing these issues first! We are even failing to do that.
Let me ask, is it even a topic of discussion among Indians? I mean about urban planning, discipline on roads and traffic, cleanliness? No.

Who are you to decide whether it is or not? Did you have a survey with a large sample size?

We are used to ignore them. That’s the problem.

Educated- I don’t want to play with words here. But those who do job and earn moderate or good.

Did you ask their salaries

Opportunities- I told u an example-
Bihar, important place for Buddhism. We could have earned millions from many eastern and south eastern countries. That alone could have generated revenues and many job opportunities. Do I need to talk about how Bihar is performing!

Those who want to come, they come. People don't want to visit Bodh Gaya much despite what most people think. Bihar can't force Buddhists to visit Bodh Gaya, can they?

Why not?

That’s why I showed you examples like Rwanda. You should do a little more research on that country, especially their capital Kigali.

Why should I? Kigali has like 13% of entire Rwandan population, our biggest city is barely 1.2% of India's population. It is obvious the city holds far more importance for them than any individual city would for us. And anyways much of it resembles a village, @crazywithmath even posted images from there.

 

[Atheist]

Yeah I'm supposed to be jealous because some random city in India has some more pieces of paper than the largest and wealthiest city of a country's poshest areas lol.

That's like a kid bragging of keeping his hostel room clean as his biggest achievement while failing exams mocking another guy with a dirtier hostel room but scoring atleast above average.

Yeah, instead, show courage to see and accept, that one poor gutter country from Africa which suffered 1.5 million people lose due to ethnic violence 20 years ago has made such progress within such a short span of time, which no Indian city could do till date!

Learn from that bro, take good things. Think what’s stopping us from creating a population that obeys rules and laws in general, behave sane, follow traffic discipline and so on.

Your upper lower middle class is not an excuse here.

 

[Atheist]

Who are you to decide whether it is or not? Did you have a survey with a large sample size?

Did you ask their salaries

Those who want to come, they come. People don't want to visit Bodh Gaya much despite what most people think. Bihar can't force Buddhists to visit Bodh Gaya, can they?

Why should I? Kigali has like 13% of entire Rwandan population, our biggest city is barely 1.2% of India's population. It is obvious the city holds far more importance for them than any individual city would for us. And anyways much of it resembles a village, @crazywithmath even posted images from there.

Every questions asked.
Do some research by yourself.

 

[Atheist]

Who are you to decide whether it is or not? Did you have a survey with a large sample size?

Did you ask their salaries

Those who want to come, they come. People don't want to visit Bodh Gaya much despite what most people think. Bihar can't force Buddhists to visit Bodh Gaya, can they?

Why should I? Kigali has like 13% of entire Rwandan population, our biggest city is barely 1.2% of India's population. It is obvious the city holds far more importance for them than any individual city would for us. And anyways much of it resembles a village, @crazywithmath even posted images from there.

More and. Roe people migrate to cities, importance of cities goes over time. How could you even come up with this excuse for India for not making proper planning and infrastructure?
So our cities are less important here? Meanwhile we project ourselves as world power !

Looks like people want to hide behind excuses than even addressing and trying to improve.

 

[Atheist]

What I understood from replies from many here is that people are not much interested in improving conditions here, they compare India with Pakistan and see we are slightly better if not all and there ends.

Due to our economic activities, yeah things are changing slowly and people are happy with that.

 

[crazywithmath]

Because people get mad instead of accepting and addressing it.
What population density has to do to keep your places clean? Proper planning and people with civic sense can do much. Now tell me how’s it in India?

State of public infra is correlates very well with state capacity (which in turn is a function of GDPPC) and population density. It is precisely why Indian northeast tends to be so clean despite poor social indicators and low PCI.

Ask Balinese and confirm.

You came up with this claim. The onus is on you.

Something something about "burden of proof lies with the ...."?

And why are you this fixated on Bali? indonesia has a lot of provinces. Why not talk about Aceh? Why not talk about North Sumatra? Because it won't suit your agenda? Why not talk about the polluted rivers of indo and Philippines?

How would you react if I start kanging by showing South Goa, Sikkim, Northeast, Kerala and the Andamans?

Most polluted major river is in cuz so we can keep our rivers as dirty?

Because polluted rivers are a feature of rapidly industrualizing economies that take decades to get cleaned up? That they are everywhere across almost all the emerging economies? Because one needs to learn to walk before attempting a sprint?

Not just Hindus but average Indian attitude.

What about opening a thread about comparing ourselves with better world around us?

'Better'?

The countries you are going to compare India with opened their economies decades before us and have been growing their economies for way way longer than us.

So we can se where we are and we can work on to make it better.
Do u want me to bash on that too?

There are bhosdapillars. Then there are batshit crazy bhosdapillars like you folks who do not know a thing and yet won't stop blabbering. Of course your kind needs to be bashed and disciplined. Do not worry tho, there is one other guy on the forum just like you - heck, I even suspect that you two might as well be alts of each other.

Do you think I did not notice how you subtly you were peddling your agenda?

Funny enough, the most polluted river on earth is in indonesia, same country he's kanging upon lol.

Guy is kanging upon Bali, not indonesia. Just like those pakis kang on their northern mountains, not the rest of the country.

 

[Numero]

Why do you keep peddling this same agenda every damn time? What is the population density of Bali? What is their PCI? When was the indonesian economy thrown open? And why pick Bali conveniently? Why not Aceh?

As far as opinions of the Hindus of Bali are concerned, did you do an opinion polling? Or is it just 'dude trust me'?

I honestly do not get you bhosdapillers. The same talking points. The same few pics (exactly the ones those pigskins and MAGAtards pick up). The world's largest and most dense slums are in ASEAN. The most polluted flowing river is in the Philippines. Do you want me to spam pics from all across ASEAN?

And imagine evn talking about this on a thread dedicated to bashing pakis. Are you alt of angryindian, by any chance?

Mods @SKC @LETHALFORCE @Suryavanshi
Thread might need some cleanup.

Don't ask for ban. Strip em with facts & vulgarity. It's more soothing. Trust me.
He's being pretentious. They roam around as atheists just to cuss on Indians especially Hindus. The first time I encountered him I've understood

 

[FalconSlayers]

Yeah, instead, show courage to see and accept, that one poor gutter country from Africa which suffered 1.5 million people lose due to ethnic violence 20 years ago has made such progress within such a short span of time, which no Indian city could do till date!

Learn from that bro, take good things. Think what’s stopping us from creating a population that obeys rules and laws in general, behave sane, follow traffic discipline and so on.

Your upper lower middle class is not an excuse here.

What progress? World revolves beyond a road and city. They were busy building some fancy streets while we are investing on hard infrastructure and economic growth. Obviously a street would look good when the entire country the size of Delhi in population buys just 600 cars a year, negligible heavy trucks and their biggest flex is some clean roads with a footpath.

What I understood from replies from many here is that people are not much interested in improving conditions here, they compare India with Pakistan and see we are slightly better if not all and there ends.

Due to our economic activities, yeah things are changing slowly and people are happy with that.

We aren't slightly better than them, that's garbage sem2sem LeLi's like you project.

Because polluted rivers are a feature of rapidly industrualizing economies that take decades to get cleaned up? That they are everywhere across almost all the emerging economies?

Funny enough, the most polluted river on earth is in indonesia, same country he's kanging upon lol.

 

[Numero]

Look at Bali, how well they show Hinduism to others. Just ask them about Indian version of Hinduism, they will not be happy to agree, because what people here show it to world is pathetic.
Christianity has moved a lot and they are making progress socially wherever they are except some 5kg rice bag converts who are as cheap as jihadis.

You can draw parallel for every religion likewise.
Pretty cheap trick. Let's stop pretending to be a mouth piece. Been across subcontinents. Never heard/felt such narratives beside the keyboard from our own crypto groups. Cheap converted subhuman & their clownish ruse for validations.
There are like 10% moderate Muslim countries with strict minority protection laws. The rest are literally bloodbath. So they hardly face the demographic change & threat that the average Indian Hindus face daily. 99% global Hindu population are residing in India. Who tf cares about some satellite groups living in concentration & their limited opinions (if there's any as you claim)!?
I ain't saying that India is perfect but you're no different than those Wignats & wannabe Wignats sugar coating in brown attire trying to make yourself look different.
Ideology or no ideology, stupidity has no bound.

 

[Atheist]

You can draw parallel for every religion likewise.
Pretty cheap trick. Let's stop pretending to be a mouth piece. Been across subcontinents. Never heard/felt such narratives beside the keyboard from our own crypto groups. Cheap converted subhuman & their clownish ruse for validations.
There are like 10% moderate Muslim countries with strict minority protection laws. The rest are literally bloodbath. So they hardly face the demographic change & threat that the average Indian Hindus face daily. 99% global Hindu population are residing in India. Who tf cares about some satellite groups living in concentration & their limited opinions (if there's any as you claim)!?
I ain't saying that India is perfect but you're no different than those Wignats & wannabe Wignats sugar coating in brown attire trying to make yourself look different.
Ideology or no ideology, stupidity has no bound.

Look, you don’t know how many muslims r leaving islam worldwide, exception is south Asian countries where they try to be more muslims than even saudis.. Still it’s happening here. And they are becoming biggest criticisers of islam.
Islam by its design, is a violent intolerant political terrorist cult with a fake god tag by fraud muhammad.
When people realise it they literally come against this cult.

Do you think Hindus can act as a catalyst here? No.
Atheists can, ex muslims can.

That’s the only solution here to address islam which u r trying to say indirectly.

 

[Numero]

Yeah, instead, show courage to see and accept, that one poor gutter country from Africa which suffered 1.5 million people lose due to ethnic violence 20 years ago has made such progress within such a short span of time, which no Indian city could do till date!

Learn from that bro, take good things. Think what’s stopping us from creating a population that obeys rules and laws in general, behave sane, follow traffic discipline and so on.

Your upper lower middle class is not an excuse here.

PROGRESS!!?
Can you show some data in regards to compare India's socio-economic metrics with Africa's?

India has lifted 426 million out of extreme poverty in the last 12 years, middle class grew to 34% upto 2022 & grew at the fastest pace in the world in the last 8 years before that. India's industrial output, manufacturing, FDI are almost all time high & are projected to be one of the largest hub in the world in the coming decades.
Extreme poverty has almost diminished at 1.9$ headcut.
Where do Africans stand?

World's largest slums are scattered across ASEAN contries, highest poverty RATE, displaced population, religious wars are scattered across SE Asia, Middle East & the whole African subcontinent beside the territory of India's.
I don't know what metrics is at the play here in your mind.
As you couldn't bring any data in your 100s of response you've always tried to divert to pollution & civic sense.

Do you even know that world's most polluted river is in Indonesia called Citarum?

Nevertheless, India is a rapidly growing economy. China went through it as well. When a fastly growing low income country couldn't happen to manage the unorganised growth there will always be mismanagement. Check China's data during 2000's. China led the world in pollution as well. There used to be smog throughout the year all over there big cities. The pace of industrialisation was impossible to be held by their infra back then but it saturated eventually.

So much unneeded criticism & whining. Trying to paint it like the last destination on earth.
Get a life hobbit. You're just yapping hollow essays & complaining like a diaper kid.

 

[crazywithmath]

What progress? World revolves beyond a road and city. They were busy building some fancy streets while we are investing on hard infrastructure and economic growth. Obviously a street would look good when the entire country the size of Delhi in population buys just 600 cars a year, negligible heavy trucks and their biggest flex is some clean roads with a footpath.

We aren't slightly better than them, that's garbage sem2sem LeLi's like you project.

Funny enough, the most polluted river on earth is in indonesia, same country he's kanging upon lol.

Imagine being so unhinged that you piss off some of the most ardent and firebrand critics of India's hard infra set-up on this forum, my atheist nibba.

Hard infrastructure and economic growth, where people behave like what?
I didn’t even start posting the associated videos here to support my claims and arguments.


View: https://youtu.be/Be-QX2fkb30?si=Bx-MH2rpbF3biNtu

Here people’s fragile ego gets bursted when issues are discussed.

Piece of advice: Do not post videos featuring Mangal, Dhruv Rathee, Akash Banerjee et al.

Bohut galiya padne wali hai. Memeberans here barely tolerate Couptaji.

 

[Atheist]

What progress? World revolves beyond a road and city. They were busy building some fancy streets while we are investing on hard infrastructure and economic growth. Obviously a street would look good when the entire country the size of Delhi in population buys just 600 cars a year, negligible heavy trucks and their biggest flex is some clean roads with a footpath.

We aren't slightly better than them, that's garbage sem2sem LeLi's like you project.

Funny enough, the most polluted river on earth is in indonesia, same country he's kanging upon lol.

Hard infrastructure and economic growth, where people behave like what?
I didn’t even start posting the associated videos here to support my claims and arguments.


View: https://youtu.be/Be-QX2fkb30?si=Bx-MH2rpbF3biNtu

Here people’s fragile ego gets bursted when issues are discussed.

 

[Atheist]

View: https://youtu.be/VhCO3kvL2PI?si=m2Ih-kaZtHmBXOWU

PROGRESS!!?
Can you show some data in regards to compare India's socio-economic metrics with Africa's?

India has lifted 426 million out of extreme poverty in the last 12 years, middle class grew to 34% upto 2022 & grew at the fastest pace in the world in the last 8 years before that. India's industrial output, manufacturing, FDI are almost all time high & are projected to be one of the largest hub in the world in the coming decades.
Extreme poverty has almost diminished at 1.9$ headcut.
Where do Africans stand?

World's largest slums are scattered across ASEAN contries, highest poverty RATE, displaced population, religious wars are scattered across SE Asia, Middle East & the whole African subcontinent beside the territory of India's.
I don't know what metrics is at the play here in your mind.
As you couldn't bring any data in your 100s of response you've always tried to divert to pollution & civic sense.

Do you even know that world's most polluted river is in Indonesia called Citarum?

Nevertheless, India is a rapidly growing economy. China went through it as well. When a fastly growing low income country couldn't happen to manage the unorganised growth there will always be mismanagement. Check China's data during 2000's. China led the world in pollution as well. There used to be smog throughout the year all over there big cities. The pace of industrialisation was impossible to be held by their infra back then but it saturated eventually.

So much unneeded criticism & whining. Trying to paint it like the last destination on earth.
Get a life hobbit. You're just yapping hollow essays & complaining like a diaper kid.

View: https://youtu.be/V-inR_Z05ME?si=X5v6NpMQs4XLPQyk


Watch above video. Yes it is progress. Progress made in 20 years if not 15 years!
Progress made in people’s mind and culture to keep streets clean, plan properly, follow rules and so on.

How about us?


View: https://youtu.be/wWYK6IVszPk?si=XiaCT4JOxb5GGEu9

Manila, yes there are many issues but
They do have better infra and planning than us.

India is rapidly growing economy. And what we are doing for our coming generations to make them good citizen to represent this growing economy which will be in a better position by then?
Dude u need to give them good education that can make them a better responsible citizen. Look around you and see how today’s young generations are growing.
China also addressed this issue at least a decade ago.