Akash-NG (Next Generation)

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Akash NG system components:-
- Multi Function Radar (MFR)
- Command & Control Unit (CCU)
-Mobile Launcher Vehicle (MLV)

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Credits-Aditya Krishna Menon on Twitter
 
Akash NG details from DRDO website
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Either the solid rocket motors used in Akash NG are really shitty or the range is being artificially capped.
My conspiracy theory is that Yahoodi lobby felt threatened that their MRSAM sales could plummet so they did what lobbies do best sabotage the program with the help of Armed Forces, nothing else explains the reason as to why the same DRDO who used to mention the range to be 80km, now says Akash NG has a range of just 30 km.
 
Max Speed 3 mach flight time 90 second
Let Speed be 2 mach it's 660 mtr / second
Distance - 660 *90 = 59400 mtr = 60 km approx
Though there are other factors, still 30 km not acceptable
 
Pundit Pikachu said:
Akash NG Brochure
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View: https://x.com/Indrani1_Roy/status/1890148843578355765/photo/1
Missile Specifications
Length - 4.7m (4680 mm)
Diameter - 0.25m (250mm)
Weight - 336 kg (340kg)
Range - 30 km
Altitude - 30m - 14 km
Top speed- 3 Mach
Flight time - 90 secs
Propulsion - Two Pulse Solid Rocket
Guidance - INS with active RF seeker

Status - Under User Trials
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Mach 3 for 90 second would translate into 92km range.
Given its top speed being mach 3 means it's a sustained boost motor which then makes it more believable that Akash Ng will have 100km+ range.
 
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Satish Sharma Ji said:
Mach 3 for 30 second would translate into 92km range.
Given its top speed being mach 3 means it's a sustained boost motor which then makes it more believable that Akash Ng will have 100km+ range.
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Exactly even with a sustainable average speech of Mach 2 with a flight time of 90 sec the missile can cover 65+ km range.... The range is purposely displayed less... I'm thinking what is the reason for such things... Anything related to export to a particular country?
 
BHARAT KA BETA said:
Exactly even with a sustainable average speech of Mach 2 with a flight time of 90 sec the missile can cover 65+ km range.... The range is purposely displayed less... I'm thinking what is the reason for such things... Anything related to export to a particular country?
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Kike Lobby.
 
Satish Sharma Ji said:
Mach 3 for 30 second would translate into 92km range.
Given its top speed being mach 3 means it's a sustained boost motor which then makes it more believable that Akash Ng will have 100km+ range.
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I am 100% sure those tiny ass radars of Akash NG system can't guide the missile to 80+ km.

The missile itself seems capable of doing 80+ km but the system as a whole seems to indicate otherwise.

If we want to extract the full potential of Akash NG pair it with DRDO MPR Arudhra

But then again Yahoodi lobby will never allow it
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Satish Sharma Ji said:
Mach 3 for 30 second would translate into 92km range.
Given its top speed being mach 3 means it's a sustained boost motor which then makes it more believable that Akash Ng will have 100km+ range.
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Na.
30 seconds? I think you meant 90 seconds.
It's doesn't fly for mach3 at most of it flight.

Let's do more realitistic(
Internet noob level realistic deduction ) deduction
And assume target is close to the max distance it's flight time and top speed gives us idea about.

For simplicity I will break it's flight( total ~90 second) into 3 phase.
1, 1st 10 seconds( 0s-10s) it accelerates from 0 to mach 3.
IRL missiles accelerates non linearly and distance covered in that time should be 5km.

2, 2nd 60 second phase(10s-70s).
I assume constant mach 3 speed( sustained motor)
Distance covered= 60km.

3, 3d 20 second phaee( 70-90s) I assume missile stops it's motor( glides or only uses fuel for maneuverability) and decelrates to mach2 to hit the target.
15-20km distance for terminal maneuvering.

So max range of akash ng 80- 85km in its current form.
Which also is in similar category as 70+km max range shown earlier by drdo.

By adding a booster 100+km max range is quite easy to get.

Now this is the capability of the missile and not the entire system.
Don't know if the radars can guide it beyond 30km

But if this missile is limited to 30km then it's no escape zone will be massive.
 
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BHARAT KA BETA said:
Exactly even with a sustainable average speech of Mach 2 with a flight time of 90 sec the missile can cover 65+ km range.... The range is purposely displayed less... I'm thinking what is the reason for such things... Anything related to export to a particular country?
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You never reveal the real capabilities unless brochuregiry has to be done.
However in the case of alash they previously had mentioned 100km range now downed to 25 who knows why.
 
Pundit Pikachu said:
I am 100% sure those tiny ass radars of Akash NG system can't guide the missile to 80+ km.

The missile itself seems capable of doing 80+ km but the system as a whole seems to indicate otherwise.

If we want to extract the full potential of Akash NG pair it with DRDO MPR Arudhra

But then again Yahoodi lobby will never allow it
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We do have Integrated Air Command and Control System (IACCS) which fuses information from all sensors and forms overall battery picture which then can be relayed to missiles. Basically all radars would be interconnected even of s400. Any radar could relay information to any launcher even if there respective battery radar is switched off. This increases effectiveness against arms as well.

So Akash Ng is already paired with the radars in inventory.
 
randombully said:
Na.
30 seconds? I think you meant 90 seconds.
It's doesn't fly for mach3 at most of it flight.

Let's do more realitistic(
Internet noob level realistic deduction ) deduction
And assume target is close to the max distance it's flight time and top speed gives us idea about.

For simplicity I will break it's flight( total ~90 second) into 3 phase.
1, 1st 10 seconds( 0s-10s) it accelerates from 0 to mach 3.
IRL missiles accelerates non linearly and distance covered in that time should be 5km.

2, 2nd 60 second phase(10s-70s).
I assume constant mach 3 speed( sustained motor)
Distance covered= 60km.

3, 3d 20 second phaee( 70-90s) I assume missile stops it's motor( glides or only uses fuel for maneuverability) and decelrates to mach2 to hit the target.
15-20km distance for terminal maneuvering.

So max range of akash ng 80- 85km in its current form.
Which also is in similar category as 70+km max range shown earlier by drdo.

By adding a booster 100+km max range is quite easy to get.

Now this is the capability of the missile and not the entire system.
Don't know if the radars can guide it beyond 30km

But if this missile is limited to 30km then it's no escape zone will be massive.
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The radar of akash ng is mentioned to be capable of detecting "2m2" targets upto 120km and capable of tracking "2m2" targets upto 80km.
But akash ng is limited to 14km( 45000feet)
And while fighter jets do fly at 40000 feet normally but modern ones are capable of ascending to 50000-65000 thousand feet.
So max altitude of aksah ng is in lower end of normal flight altitude( I said normal because fighter jets do fly lot lower lower regularly to avoid detection) of fighter jets.
And line of sight won't be a problem for a target flying at 30k feet to 40k feet, line of sight Is 300-400km.

So if a fighter jet loaded( 2m2) is flying at 30k-40k feet then akash ng's radar should be capable of detecting it at 120km and tracking and firing the missile( akash ng) at ~80km.
( assuming the fighter jet Is moving towards the system)

As for low flying cruise missiles( whose rcs Is is between 0.1-0.5m2) 30km range( effective range, not max range) seems realistic for akash ng using it's radar and EOTS systems( due to eots having 45km range, stealth cruise missiles can be targeted at a similar ~30km as non stealth cruise missiles).

And primary target akash NG is made for are cruise missiles( subsonic, supersonic), drones, etc.

Though again, given the capabilities of the missile and radar it should be able to get a "firing solution" against a loaded fighter jet/target( 2m2 or more) at ~80km if it's flying at 30kfeet-45k feet.

Now whether it can intercept the fighter jet or not is a separate matters and depends on many other factors, like whether the fighter jet is coming towards the system, or flying laterally or running away from the system, or It's EW capacity, or even if missile gets close it can try to out Maneuver it or try to deplete it's energy, try to climb at higher altitude ETC.

Plus the closer missile gets to its max range, the less fuel and energy it retains for terminal maneuvering to hit the target.


But just getting firing lock is enough to have a decent chance of destroying the target or even if target evades, then target is forced to run away and abandon whatever mission they were assigned to do.

So against a 2m2 target flying at 30k-40k feet akash ng( missile and radar) should be capable of detecting it at 120km and engaging it at 80km.
If target is flying 45k+ feet altitude then it's beyond the capabilities of akash ng.


Another thing, akash NG missile in its current form is solid base for a longer range surface to air missile( ~150km) by adding a booster and some other modifications to bring it's altitude at 65k feet and paring it with batter radar, against fighter size targets
 
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