AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Strange....
I thought low RCS was the alfa and omega.
Seems that Spectra wasn't a bad idea.....

It is collective effort b/w geometry, RAS, RAM, EW.
So Alpha, Beta, Theta, Gamma, Omega, etc have to work together.

 

[Indianhawk]

Strange....
I thought low RCS was the alfa and omega.
Seems that Spectra wasn't a bad idea.....

1+1 =2 .
Physical stealth+ active measures== even more stealth.

 

[high_IQ_bharatiya_sainik]

Strange....
I thought low RCS was the alfa and omega.
Seems that Spectra wasn't a bad idea.....

Can you please explain how active cancellation works?

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Another year, another model.
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We will get that 3000 Black jets before Iron brothers on West.

 

[BON PLAN]

Can you please explain how active cancellation works?

theorically you send the foe emitter a signal in the opposition phase of the one received, and with the right energy level. The two are cancelling each other.

In practice it is all but not easy.
The electronic treatment have to be fast enough (specially against LPI radars).
You have to know exactly what is your RCS for every direction and for every external load (that explain why anechoic chambers are more and more used, and why it is easier on a bird without external load).

It is all my knowledge.

A 2006 training in Scotland between french Rafale and GB EF2000 was interesting : it seems the french pilots at least one time used a "war mode" of Spectra : the EF pilots saw the Rafale but their radars were unable to catch them.

 

[Spacemarine]

Strange....
I thought low RCS was the alfa and omega.
Seems that Spectra wasn't a bad idea.....

India has its own Spectra equivalent its called Mayavi, but seems like passive stealth will not be able to catch up with latest large land based radars networks, both Spectra and Mayavi got fcked up in domestic exercises

 

[Spitfire IX]

KF-21 is in production and ROK has launched a programme to develop an indigenous engine for it;. Deliveries of KF-21 are scheduled to start in 2026.

With the arrival of 1 (or 2?) more prototypes in 2025, TAI KAAN flight testing is expected to start in earnest this year with initial deliveries of the production aircraft expected 2028/2029. A licence production deal with Pakistan is looking imminent. Work is underway on designing an indigenous engine for KAAN.

Su-75 is nearing design completion but shows no signs of ever progressing into production.

What progress has been made with AMCA? I'm not talking of what future fantasies there are for the aircraft. I'm talking about what solid progress has been made.

 

[GodEmperorDoom]

KF-21 is in production and ROK has launched a programme to develop an indigenous engine for it;. Deliveries of KF-21 are scheduled to start in 2026.

With the arrival of 1 (or 2?) more prototypes in 2025, TAI KAAN flight testing is expected to start in earnest this year with initial deliveries of the production aircraft expected 2028/2029. A licence production deal with Pakistan is looking imminent. Work is underway on designing an indigenous engine for KAAN.

Su-75 is nearing design completion but shows no signs of ever progressing into production.

What progress has been made with AMCA? I'm not talking of what future fantasies there are for the aircraft. I'm talking about what solid progress has been made.

I have a doubt, are you schizophrenic? Dude, it's been only like 8-Months that it has been given CCS Approval leading to begining of construction of prototype. Atleast wait for 2 years. Also what's use of a Non-Stealthy 4.5th gen Airframe now that Chinese unveiled tailless sixth gen?

 

[Asmodeus]

KF-21 is in production and ROK has launched a programme to develop an indigenous engine for it;. Deliveries of KF-21 are scheduled to start in 2026.

With the arrival of 1 (or 2?) more prototypes in 2025, TAI KAAN flight testing is expected to start in earnest this year with initial deliveries of the production aircraft expected 2028/2029. A licence production deal with Pakistan is looking imminent. Work is underway on designing an indigenous engine for KAAN.

Su-75 is nearing design completion but shows no signs of ever progressing into production.

What progress has been made with AMCA? I'm not talking of what future fantasies there are for the aircraft. I'm talking about what solid progress has been made.

How does this work?? You could just ask for AMCA progress no need to rant about it..

 

[705-Lira]

KF-21 is in production and ROK has launched a programme to develop an indigenous engine for it;. Deliveries of KF-21 are scheduled to start in 2026.

With the arrival of 1 (or 2?) more prototypes in 2025, TAI KAAN flight testing is expected to start in earnest this year with initial deliveries of the production aircraft expected 2028/2029. A licence production deal with Pakistan is looking imminent. Work is underway on designing an indigenous engine for KAAN.

Su-75 is nearing design completion but shows no signs of ever progressing into production.

What progress has been made with AMCA? I'm not talking of what future fantasies there are for the aircraft. I'm talking about what solid progress has been made.

 

[BON PLAN]

India has its own Spectra equivalent its called Mayavi, but seems like passive stealth will not be able to catch up with latest large land based radars networks, both Spectra and Mayavi got fcked up in domestic exercises

Any stealth fighter can't do nothing against a ground or ship low band radar.
Low band and multistatic radars can't be "jammed" by stealth or electronic counter measures.
It is why all new chise ships for exemples are fitted with low band radars. Sole problem : low band radars are not very accurate.

 

[BON PLAN]

The electronic treatment have to be fast enough (specially against LPI radars).

This why the treatment and the jamming power unit are in the same Spectra cell : to reduce the time of signal treatment.
I can't give more details because not an electronical engineer.

 

[Spitfire IX]

I have a doubt, are you schizophrenic? Dude, it's been only like 8-Months that it has been given CCS Approval leading to begining of construction of prototype. Atleast wait for 2 years. Also what's use of a Non-Stealthy 4.5th gen Airframe now that Chinese unveiled tailless sixth gen?

I see KF-21, except in A2A mode, as an F-16 competitor. I guess that in A2A mode it is stealthier than the other western 4G fighters. But it is an aircraft designed, I think, with enhanced possibilities for redesign into an aircraft with an IWB.

It was good to hear of the launch of the AMCA development programme early 2024. I don't expect prototypes to start rolling out in 6 months. What I do expect is for arrangements to build the production aircraft to be made before completion of testing. Reaching certification quickly benefits IAF not one jot if AMCA is then ready for production but production cannot start because it has not been organised in advance..