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Russian car market dominated by Chinese brands including Li Auto


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Mark Andrews

April 7, 2024



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Chery is one of 9 Chinese brands dominating Russian market



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March sales figures from Russia show that Chinese brands now dominate the market holding nine out of the top ten best-selling brand positions with only homegrown champion Lada outselling them. Even more surprising is that one of those brands is Li Auto, which up until now was widely believed not to export cars.

Russia last year was China’s largest car export market with sales of 841,000 from January to November 2023. According to figures from China Automotive Digital Research Institute this wave shows no sign of abating.

Although sales of Lada far exceeded sales of any Chinese brand, and were up by 64.5% in March and by 43.2% YOY for the first three months, the increases from some Chinese brands were much higher.

Great Wall’s Haval brand along with Geely, and Chery all achieved quite close results with sales of 16,045, 15,004 and 13,159 respectively in March.


Haval Xiaolong Max PHEV on display at the 2023 Shanghai Auto Show.

Both Geely and Chery in fact did even better as they appeared on the top ten list more than once. In the case of Geely they also gained the number 9 position thanks to Geely Belgee which is a joint venture mainly controlled by Belarusian state automaker BelAZ (51.5%) and Geely (33.5%) with the remainder held by other Chinese entities. It should be noted though that these cars are actually made in Belarus rather than China.

Chery on the other hand also had entries from the Exceed brand at number 6, Omoda at number 7 and Jetour at number 10. Omoda is an export only brand for various Chery cars first debuting with a renamed version of the Chery Omoda 5 and initially used as a brand in Russia and Kazakhstan.


Chery Exeed Lanyue (VX) range extended EV (PHEV) on display at the 2023 Shanghai Auto Show.

The biggest news however on the list is Li Auto a brand which is generally thought of as operating only in China. Li sold 3,617 cars in Russia during March which was a 14971% increase YOY and the brand sold 8.049 in the first quarter up by 19532%.​

The full results can be seen in the table below. These indicate that Russia will likely remain China’s key export market and that sales in Russia should be well up on last year and likely will amount to well over a million cars in 2024.

PositionBrandMarch salesIncrease YOYQ1 salesIncrease YOY
1Lada39,90864.5%90,87043.2%
2Haval16,045134.0%37,639135.!%
3Geely15,004185.4%36,264202.7%
4Chery13,15963.7%31,89356.4%
5Changan9,330805.8%20,2161023.7%
6Exeed4,66438.4%10,84349.1%
7Omoda4,63293.9%10,42392.8%
8Li Auto3,61714971%8,04919532%
9Geely Belgee2,7324,260
10Jetour2,6165,081

Top 10 brands by sales in Russia March 2024

Source: Fast Technology
who do you want to joke?
No options simply like that no Japanese brands not European brands and no Americans brands only Russian brands.

Chinese cars are not cheap, since quality costs, any country to make a good car needs lots of money.

Chinese cars usually have low quality to become cheap, it is well known, and are dumped, do you think they are cheap because what?

Answer low salaries, reduced safety standards, dumping, and subsidies.

To stop is easy tariffs, and the consumer will not lose simply because people need to buy local and made at home, and brands have to be plentiful but salaries have to be good. Exported cars do not benefit Russia.



The americans know it and the Europeans Know it, so relax, China can produce world class cars but they will be expensive, and if Chinese consumers can buy them, better salaries are needed, subsidies can only help for a while, but most countries with some car industry will ask higher tariffs,

Chinese cars made in other countries will face the same troubles they will need local providers so they will need to share the cake or their products will become expensive.


Sale of Chinese cars affects Puebla's industry
In 2023, a total of 22,494 new cars will be purchased in Puebla, of which 10.2 percent are Chinese.

Javier Zambrano / El Sol de Puebla

The growth in demand for Chinese automobiles has affected the productivity of the manufacturing sector in the state of Puebla, specifically the automotive sector, reported the National Chamber of the Manufacturing Industry (Canacintra).
 
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who do you want to joke?
No options simply like that no Japanese brands not European brands and no Americans brands only Russian brands.

Chinese cars are not cheap, since quality costs, any country to make a good car needs lots of money.

Chinese cars usually have low quality to become cheap, it is well known, and are dumped, do you think they are cheap because what?

Answer low salaries, reduced safety standards, dumping, and subsidies.

To stop is easy tariffs, and the consumer will not lose simply because people need to buy local and made at home, and brands have to be plentiful but salaries have to be good. Exported cars do not benefit Russia.



The americans know it and the Europeans Know it, so relax, China can produce world class cars but they will be expensive, and if Chinese consumers can buy them, better salaries are needed, subsidies can only help for a while, but most countries with some car industry will ask higher tariffs,

Chinese cars made in other countries will face the same troubles they will need local providers so they will need to share the cake or their products will become expensive.

Chinese cars are also highly rated and popular in Western countries

Especially the EV market
 
Chinese cars are also highly rated and popular in Western countries

Especially the EV market
Any country can build high class cars, it is not rocket science.

However to build high quality cars and in large numbers you need lots of money, so the price tag for each car is not Cheap is you have some perception you will understand why Chinese cars brands are getting bankrupted

Subsidies means dumped cars got it? Chinese salaries are lower than in EU and USA thus obviously american cars are at disadvantage, but Chinese workers are paid crap and the R&D is expensive so subsidies can not be paid in China since salaries are low and people can not buy cars so easily so China want to export, basically they want the USA and EU to paid for Chinese subsidies, but western countries are not stupid so they add tariffs, do not be a child, China or any country can built cars, the problem is trade blocks and customs Unions are designed to keep foreign competitors out.
 
Any country can build high class cars, it is not rocket science.

However to build high quality cars and in large numbers you need lots of money, so the price tag for each car is not Cheap is you have some perception you will understand why Chinese cars brands are getting bankrupted

Subsidies means dumped cars got it? Chinese salaries are lower than in EU and USA thus obviously american cars are at disadvantage, but Chinese workers are paid crap and the R&D is expensive so subsidies can not be paid in China since salaries are low and people can not buy cars so easily so China want to export, basically they want the USA and EU to paid for Chinese subsidies, but western countries are not stupid so they add tariffs, do not be a child, China or any country can built cars, the problem is trade blocks and customs Unions are designed to keep foreign competitors out.

Nop, you don't even own a car, you have no idea about auto industry.

Not many nation would produce high tech vehicles with good configuration by reasonable prices. Japan is same population size of Mexico, but Mexicon have no strong brand just assembly facotries.


Check the US pro testing them



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oqv_NRdZic&t=19s

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who do you want to joke?
No options simply like that no Japanese brands not European brands and no Americans brands only Russian brands.

Chinese cars are not cheap, since quality costs, any country to make a good car needs lots of money.

Chinese cars usually have low quality to become cheap, it is well known, and are dumped, do you think they are cheap because what?

Answer low salaries, reduced safety standards, dumping, and subsidies.


Russian rich people still have ways to import luxury cars from Belaurs and other midasia nations, but Chinese luxury cars in good sales now:

1. Li auto is $USD150,000 level, with good sales

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ctZMj2PYuA


2. Zeekr is $USD70,000 - $100,000 level

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baDcyLDMauI


3. BYD YangWang U8 is $USD200,000 to $250,000 level

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27qpqNOo3yg
 
Nop, you don't even own a car, you have no idea about auto industry.

Not many nation would produce high tech vehicles with good configuration by reasonable prices. Japan is same population size of Mexico, but Mexicon have no strong brand just assembly facotries.


Check the US pro testing them



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oqv_NRdZic&t=19s

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True Mexican brands do exist and we do have cars designed in Mexico, do you know what we need to have strong brands? (put Tariffs to exported cars from China) since any car manufactured is not cheap, to build millions you need lots of Money.

Got it? so what do you think Americans will do? kick you out of the american market, same is doing Europe, that is why you are begging and exporting your cars before mexico or Brazil raise tariffs and the indians are kicking you out too, do not be a fool, mexicans and Indians can build cars are cheap as China.
 
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During the war Argentina was supported by Spain and Italy diplomatically, not military, and they were kind of neutral since they are NATO members.

Peru and Bolivia sent weapons.

however you have a little distorted vision, Argentina is a white nation, so it was a fight between white nations.

Nop, it's war between white and Hispanic, or mainly English speaking with Spanish speaking.

It's also a war between a top empire vs fallen empire's last few colony issue.

After this war, the Spanish empire was totally down into pieces, during 1980s, the Spain even not account as G7 members even Canada was only 20 million people, and Latin American totally became back yard of USA.

 
Nop, it's war between white and Hispanic, or mainly English speaking with Spanish speaking.

It's also a war between a top empire vs fallen empire's last few colony issue.

After this war, the Spanish empire was totally down into pieces, during 1980s, the Spain even not account as G7 members even Canada was only 20 million people, and Latin American totally became back yard of USA.

You do not know nothing about latin america, that book for starters is old, got it?

And by the way that book is made by the latin american left (I know them very well) why do not you read about Mercosur and why Brazil is building AESA radars, Submarines, and has a top agro Industry and a top aircraft industry.

Your view is of a guy who knows nothing of Latin America and pretends to know who confuses WASPs with Europeans and do not know Europeans exist in Latin America and if you see them in the USA you think they are WASPs
 
You do not know nothing about latin america, that book for starters is old, got it?

And by the way that book is made by the latin american left (I know them very well) why do not you read about Mercosur and why Brazil is building AESA radars, Submarines, and has a top agro Industry and a top aircraft industry.

Your view is of a guy who knows nothing of Latin America and pretends to know who confuses WASPs with Europeans and do not know Europeans exist in Latin America and if you see them in the USA you think they are WASPs

You do not know nothing about auto industry, that web news for starters is superficial, got it? ^_^


Like:

Brazil raise tariffs and the indians are kicking you out do not be a fool, mexicans and Indians can build cars are cheap as China.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NecRrB2bOgU



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcSYsudwlZA
 
Nop, it's war between white and Hispanic, or mainly English speaking with Spanish speaking.

It's also a war between a top empire vs fallen empire's last few colony issue.

After this war, the Spanish empire was totally down into pieces, during 1980s, the Spain even not account as G7 members even Canada was only 20 million people, and Latin American totally became back yard of USA.

Argentina has the largest Italian population outside of Italy, with around 1.1 million Italians residing in the South American country as of 2022. This community represented almost one fifth of all citizens residing outside the Republic, 6.7 million.Jul 4, 2024

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obviously you are right Messi is a Chinese last name and messi looks Chinese
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Another Chinese looking guy Bolsonaro with obviously Chinese ancestry Bolsonaro is a Chinese last name

They ask to remove Bolsonaro's honorary Italian citizenship after an assault on the Brazilian government
The Bolsonaro family has full Italian ancestry,
and a part of German, who arrived in Brazil during the 1880s.
EUROPA PRESS | D. MARTINEZ | 01-12-2023

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Obviously the soccer national team of Argentina looks pretty Chinese

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what! Argentina is full of Chinese like Rockdog, they have more Italains in Argentina than in the USA?

wow obviously you know a lot.

The surname Messi is of Italian origin and comes from the Recanati commune, located in the province of Macerata. However, there are other theories that indicate that it could also have emerged in the Lombardy region.
 
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Argentina has the largest Italian population outside of Italy, with around 1.1 million Italians residing in the South American country as of 2022. This community represented almost one fifth of all citizens residing outside the Republic, 6.7 million.Jul 4, 2024

For pretty long time, Italians were not considered as White in USA history.


 
For pretty long time, Italians were not considered as White in USA history.


and Chinese were? Obviously Chinese have blue eyes like Bolsonaro and Blond hair like Messi yes I am sure you were looked as a Superior race in the USA, yes Italy is in Asia and not europe, they are not European you are pretty right


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP-_YZLwGTM&t=23s

Giorgia Meloni obviously not European
 
Any country can build high class cars, it is not rocket science.

However to build high quality cars and in large numbers you need lots of money, so the price tag for each car is not Cheap is you have some perception you will understand why Chinese cars brands are getting bankrupted

Subsidies means dumped cars got it? Chinese salaries are lower than in EU and USA thus obviously american cars are at disadvantage, but Chinese workers are paid crap and the R&D is expensive so subsidies can not be paid in China since salaries are low and people can not buy cars so easily so China want to export, basically they want the USA and EU to paid for Chinese subsidies, but western countries are not stupid so they add tariffs, do not be a child, China or any country can built cars, the problem is trade blocks and customs Unions are designed to keep foreign competitors out.
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As usual, we have dozens of Chinese EV makers selling cheap, poor quality, "use and throw" cars (exactly similar to their bike industry).

Japanese makers are famous for their reliability and quality, Germans for over engineering and luxury.

What's the USP of Chinese brands? Cheap and looks like knockoffs of luxury German cars.

Let's see if any of these last for 10 years. In harsh weather conditions like India, these toy like cars will fall apart in 20k km.
 

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