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Do you guys even know how much waste an American generates compared to an Indian? All this talk about proper disposal but zero talk about sustainability. If you actually observe Indians they have a significantly smaller carbon footprint. We tend to buy vegetables when we need them. Avoid heavily processed and packaged things which require huge cardboard boxes and cooling apparatus. Americans have groceries delivered via subscription boxes which consumes huge cardboard boxes. In fact Mysore has better trash Disposal than most American sanitation programs because they separate biomass from other trash, not just what’s thrown into the compost. But no American is aware of that because they are too stupid to learn anything past the narrative fed to them.


Instead of being proud of such Indian origin systems, we are too ashamed to even acknowledge that we can be better or cleaner.

Rather than shitting on Indians and aping the west, we should look within India for examples of cleanliness and models that are working in cities like Indore and Mysore.
 
The average American carbon footprint is estimated to be around 16 tons per year
 
The average carbon footprint of an Indian citizen is around 1.6 tonnes per year

There is no reason for an Indian to feel guilty with a 10x smaller footprint.
 
Electrified railways are nice but electricity prices seem to be extraordinarily high in India. Some people have AC, but the price of AC is too high for people to use regularly. Everybody has this strange electric water heater, but nobody wants to leave it on as it consumes too much electricity. Infrastructure is again, more than just roads and bridges. Btw the roads in India at least where I was were not even nice. Very bumpy ride on dangerous mountain roads. Scary and nauseating.
Septicemia is a life threatening emergency & it's treatment would leave you broke in US . Healthcare system is a total fraud in US/UK/Canada as I've seen many citizens of aforementioned nations come to India for elective surgeries which demand a waiting period of upto 2-5 years over there.
 
while you are upset about sem2sem, are you not recognising that there are cracks in "murican exceptionalism" and soft underbelly being exposed to outside world. this conversation that happened in previous pages could not have happened 10 years ago, when there were tight controls over western narratives.
Bhaisab this thread is 'chit chat' thread.
There are 100 other threads dedicated to pointing out American Exceptionalism, this I believe is not one of them. There must be at least one thread where we can let loose and talk about our issues in a infronal way. I could have done Randi rona about prachand vs ATAk on the prachand thread but I specifically chose to do it in this thread. Why is that? Because in this thread we can talk down and get informal about our own selfs.
It's not my fault that too insecure NRIs who have chosen to take the discussion out of context.

Calling India filthy is outrageous in the way its delivered and of course it will offend us but equating US conditions with India and saying it's sem2sem is just as outrageous. This makes us look like Pakis who talk in a absurd manner, how justified is comparing Indian living space Infra with America when we know we will come worse off?
Do those NRI not know there is no point? But they gotta talk their absurdity because they don't get the point of this thread.
We should at least leave this thread to talk about our houses dirty laundry or we might as well move back to discord.
 
Fine @srev2004

America is a shithole. I don't care.

I want India not to be a shithole.

All Indian cities and towns must do what Indore has done. I was in Indore for 2 weeks last year and can confirm that the city is extremely clean.
 


Notably, the 10 dirtiest cities with a population of over 1 lakh are all from West Bengal.
Kalyani, Madhyagram, Krishnanagar, Asansol, Rishra, Bidhannagar, Kanchrapara, Kolkata and Bhatpara are the dirtiest cities in the country after Howrah in the category, the survey found.
 


Notably, the 10 dirtiest cities with a population of over 1 lakh are all from West Bengal.
Kalyani, Madhyagram, Krishnanagar, Asansol, Rishra, Bidhannagar, Kanchrapara, Kolkata and Bhatpara are the dirtiest cities in the country after Howrah in the category, the survey found.
Perhaps we need to create a buddy system where the top ten are paired with the bottom ten to improve cleanliness each year.
 
It has to start from the people. Indians by average are too desensitized to trash at public places. Only takes 10 people to start littering in an area, and a 1000+ follows because of sheer reflex.
 
Septicemia is a life threatening emergency & it's treatment would leave you broke in US . Healthcare system is a total fraud in US/UK/Canada as I've seen many citizens of aforementioned nations come to India for elective surgeries which demand a waiting period of upto 2-5 years over there.

Theres no waiting period in the US. I don't know about Canada. You cannot diagnose septicemia without an adequate workup. I will tell you that Indian healthcare is not nearly as good as for some fee that many villagers cannot afford, doctors will see patients for only 5 minutes where they wanton prescribe medications. We have this to some extent here, but not nearly as bad as what I experienced. People go to India for elective surgeries because it is cheaper, for now. But as I mentioned, western PE companies are gobbling up Indian hospitals. This will harm Indians long term. Indians have a big problem: Long term, strategic thinking. Short term money seems to trump long term for you people.
 
Prices aren't high just the average income is too low.

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One cannot just spend 5 to 8% of his income in electricity bill.

For most people even a dustbin isn't affordable let alone thrash bag which costs 500 for 100 to 150 rolls.
People who earn more adopt to better standards but they are merely 10% of the population.

Tbh I believe electricity prices can be cheaper in India than anywhere else if a surgical precision is made to make nuclear plants
 
This was about a decade back.

Every street had 1 large bin where you sent your trash to. Garbage collection would be done twice a week.

She felt it was too much work to take the trash 200 M away from her home and would dispose it in the empty plot of land.

Thats the fault of municipal authorities for failing to catch her and fine her heavily. The reason why nobody pollutes in my neighborhood is because once they catch you the fines are steep and they make an example out of her. Someone needs to make an example out of her.
 
The average carbon footprint of an Indian citizen is around 1.6 tonnes per year

There is no reason for an Indian to feel guilty with a 10x smaller footprint.

Yes but the average amerian citizen put all of his/her trash in the appropriate places whereas the average Indian don't. That's the key difference. America has excellent infrastructure for disposing trash while India doesn't. Look at that huge mountain of trash on the outskirts of Delhi that caught fire. You won't see that thing happening a lot in America. Sure there have been incidences but America usually figure out the problem and tackle it. India doesn't. Its more of a chaltai hai attitude.
 
Thats the fault of municipal authorities for failing to catch her and fine her heavily. The reason why nobody pollutes in my neighborhood is because once they catch you the fines are steep and they make an example out of her. Someone needs to make an example out of her.
Her Husband was a mid level Police guy.

No municipal guy would dare to fine them.
 

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