CI/CT Operations

[Noob]

They didn’t find yet,area cordon kr rkha agr toh they don’t get ogw or any kind of support from outside consider them dead they are hit pretty hard we caught them off guard they have nothing to survive for too much time on top of that they are injured

Is the area complety cordoned off?

 

[Mr.Evil]

Is the area complety cordoned off?

Afaik yes

 

[Noob]

Sooo are the narrowing down on the entire militant module?

Seems like that everything is blurry rn from the sources on group tg groups like war&gore have gone silent I say let them cook

 

[Noob]

Afaik yes

Yea pigs are fucked now

 

[Noob]

View: https://t.me/goreunit/4910?single

 

[Mr.Evil]

View: https://t.me/goreunit/4910?single

That is one of the weapon left behind by 3 pigs who ran because we recovered an ak from the dead the pigs yesterday already

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Assar Doda encounter:Updated -Security forces are tracking 3 injured trts.Meanwhile-Cpt Deepak sustained injuries when he was leading patrol twrds hiding trts on Tuesday night and kept “engaging trts in a firefight twice in the night”. The militants were hiding in a riverine.
@mist_consecutive @Airborne22

Capt Deepak was no 3 in assault team..first two being scouts..everyone knows in the world that no 3 is the highest ranking guy specially in British system.

Why to take these risks?

 

[mist_consecutive]

View: https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1823998771090387019

 

[Suryavanshi]

Fellas listen.
Is oue situation and circumstances unique to us.
This terrain, the demographic, the Ideology of militants and the neighborhood country is this unique to us?
Suppsoe had this been other counties militaries in our shoes, would they have done any better?

Perhaps 1:5 or 1:6 kill ratio is the optimum for these circumstances?

 

[Screambowl]

Suppsoe had this been other counties militaries in our shoes, would they have done any better?

There are so many who do not want to be posted in Kashmir and North East, jacks lagatey rehte hai. 80% time postings and transfer arrange karney mein nikal jata hai. In other countries this does not happen they are professional.

 

[VictorDelta4]

If needed we can use Rudra gunships as well. We don't because of the same reasons we can't use drones in thick forest.

Technically FLIR can look through foliage right? or is it that dense up there that even a FLIR mounted on a Rudra would fail?

 

[Screambowl]

No intelligence money or informers killed. They just became obsolete as terrorism in Jammu died down. Your accusations are vile and corrupt.

There is intelligence failure. Multiple times security forces were trapped. Either due to leak or wrong input or wrong processing.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Fellas listen.
Is oue situation and circumstances unique to us.
This terrain, the demographic, the Ideology of militants and the neighborhood country is this unique to us?
Suppsoe had this been other counties militaries in our shoes, would they have done any better?

Perhaps 1:5 or 1:6 kill ratio is the optimum for these circumstances?

1:5 to 1:6 kill ratio was the standard back in early 2000s.

You also have to understand lill ratio doesn’t tell the whole story. Kill ratio includeS ALL forces including JKP and CRPF and BSF who aren’t trained to deal with insurgencies.

For the Indian army alone, the kill ratio should be and always has been from 5-7:1 as indian soldiers arwnt using any significant firepower like US in Afg or Iraq.

As for your question, i doubt it.

Taliban had a postive kd ratio against combined U.S. and Afg forces.

Russians barely have a 2:1 kd ratio against militants who are poorer trained (bare in mind we are in a proxy war facing hardcore operatives)

Lashkar has faced US in Afg and overran them in Wanaat 200

US chickened out of UNSOM as it failed to hold itself in infantry predominant environment, and only their SOF could achieve any noticeable success.

We are doing decent in comparison to others but as indians we need to hold ourselves to high standards

 

[mist_consecutive]

Fellas listen.
Is oue situation and circumstances unique to us.
This terrain, the demographic, the Ideology of militants and the neighborhood country is this unique to us?
Suppsoe had this been other counties militaries in our shoes, would they have done any better?

Perhaps 1:5 or 1:6 kill ratio is the optimum for these circumstances?

• Terrain - Dense, thick hilly temperate rainforest.
• Demography - Hostile to semi-hostile.
• Ideology - Islam (highest motivation).
• Warfare type - Guerrila.

The closest example I can think of is - Vietnam ? Myanmar rebels ?

 

[KumaoniReborn]

• Terrain - Dense, thick hilly temperate rainforest.
• Demography - Hostile to semi-hostile.
• Ideology - Islam (highest motivation).
• Warfare type - Guerrila.

The closest example I can think of is - Vietnam ? Myanmar rebels ?

Not to mention, kit and gear wise we don’t have a singficant advantage over the enemy. Also we aren’t using overwhelming firepower.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Technically FLIR can look through foliage right? or is it that dense up there that even a FLIR mounted on a Rudra would fail?

To an extent yes. Not like x-ray. Depth of foilage matters. Tangoes hidden in caves won't be picked up by FLIR.

Btw Heron drones searched frantically after Doda encounter with FLIR but we got nothing.

There is intelligence failure. Multiple times security forces were trapped. Either due to leak or wrong input or wrong processing.

Did that happen because Army killed informers for medals or because Army gobbled up informer money ? My reply was to the accusations.

OGWs lured Army into traps, that's what happened. OGWs working for militants and Islamic cause.

 

[VictorDelta4]

Tangoes hidden in caves won't be picked up by FLIR.

Btw Heron drones searched frantically after Doda encounter with FLIR but we got nothing.

Yup, when it comes to mountains and looking for Tangos in caves, you either push more bodies in or drop a LGB to flatten it out and then later go collect the pieces.
Eg- Tora Bora
For our issue, superior firepower and proper actionable intelligence based ops is the way out.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Yup, when it comes to mountains and looking for Tangos in caves, you either push more bodies in or drop a LGB to flatten it out and then later go collect the pieces.
Eg- Tora Bora
For our issue, superior firepower and proper actionable intelligence based ops is the way out.

We also need to remember despite Afghanistan having a barren terrain ideal for air-support & helicopter gunship unlike J&K, USA achieved little with overwhelming air power.

When population is hostile, HUMINT is nonexistent, and at worse, dangerous.

 

[Screambowl]

OGWs lured Army into traps, that's what happened. OGWs working for militants and Islamic cause.

Pakistanis don't hesitate to throw money on intelligence.

Did that happen because Army killed informers for medals or because Army gobbled up informer money ?

The intelligence flow is multiple spectrum not only army.

 

[VictorDelta4]

We also need to remember despite Afghanistan having a barren terrain ideal for air-support & helicopter gunship unlike J&K, USA achieved little with overwhelming air power.

Also add the abundance with shoulder fired anti aircraft weapons, they were largely made redundant for any bombing campaign. Their air power was largely limited to CASEVAC and CAS. Warthogs and Apaches did their jobs to support the troops on ground while the jets dropped LGBs but it was usually a ground element that did the main task and achieved the target.