are machine gunners present in such combing teams , to serve as a base of fire?Sthe video release by terrorists clearly showed that terrorists have enough time to remove the vest, helmet and bag of the killed soldiers. Also took his weapon and try to mutilate the body
The local gujjar who saved the soldiers, as I said earlier soldiers Panicked after the ambushe, many went missing and get lost just to be found by locals in the morning
Terrorists specially killed the jco (identified by the stars on uniform) after that everyone got lost as no one was their to command
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So they had some sort of sweet time to behead loot weapons and mags
Yeah we have lost 2 officiallywhat's happening here??? i thought we lost 2 in kishtwar 11 RR recently.
When firing begun they all got scatteredare machine gunners present in such combing teams , to serve as a base of fire?
Search op was going on based on int (prob a bait by terrorists)-> soldiers took the old route (used by Gujjars) to navigate the Jungle (anticipated by terrorists) -> terrorists have int about the no of soldiers their weapons profile and id of soldiers -> they hit the senior most soldiers, point man and commanding officer of the squad left the less expensive soldiers in panic -> took weapon mutilation records and vanishedBro can u confirm
People are stating 2 possibilities
1) it was an ambush
2) it was search ops by army but trts had prior intel about it
Which one is true
If army isn't announcing about rest casualties then it means either they are being treated or not found
Who?In name of osnit don't post or forward anything that might get you in trouble no one will save you
Big example is Manish kashyap
How can someone leave their jco to be beheaded? Not downgrading them but I remember 48 rr ke ambush meh bhi trucks se utar ke bhage the, while the gypsy guys got butchered.Search op was going on based on int (prob a bait by terrorists)-> soldiers took the old route (used by Gujjars) to navigate the Jungle (anticipated by terrorists) -> terrorists have int about the no of soldiers their weapons profile and id of soldiers -> they hit the senior most soldiers, point man and commanding officer of the squad left the less expensive soldiers in panic -> took weapon mutilation records and vanished
Some of us talk about it in dms about this because if we make this point people are gonna call us desh drohi..then everyone from fauji kids to ex faujis and twitter experts will come join the party.this is what happens when u don't train your men in combined arms live fire drills on ground .
They panic when thigs go rapid and that's the end . God , this is the situation when they don't even have LMGs .
Yup this has happened since a long time nowSome of us talk about it in dms about this because if we make this point people are gonna call us desh drohi..then everyone from fauji kids to ex faujis and twitter experts will come join the party.
This has happened many times in the last 15 years.
This is not a healthy sign of infantry..this should have been Chinese standard not a volunteer Army standard.
Officer lead Army.
This reaction is expected from fresh non battle hardened troops , once they have some combat experience they will start pumping round instead of running .How can someone leave their jco to be beheaded? Not downgrading them but I remember 48 rr ke ambush meh bhi trucks se utar ke bhage the, while the gypsy guys got butchered.
Lack of proper SOP, exposure to only CASO ops in peace time, barely any combined arms exposure, training system failure and plenty more has weakened the infantry to such an extent that if there was a large scale conflict right now, the casualties will be higher in the initial days before they even get a chance to retreat and regroup!People used to swear by the training and bravery of Indian Infantry but Jammu is proving otherwise.
I was thinking about it a few years ago and i was like wont RR exposure solve this but noThis reaction is expected from fresh non battle hardened troops , once they have some combat experience they will start pumping round instead of running .
But we can't always depend upon such engagements to give our men battle experience and exposure that's where large scale combined arms live fire drills come in .
One of the main reason why USMC is such lethal is coz they do it extensively and thus are very squared away when it comes to SOPs , leadership and reacting to various scenarios , But i am still waiting to see our men try out something even remotely similar .
You are most likely to find the sunken treasure of Davy jones than this.We have to change our training and sops really soon..young officers cant be cannon fodder everytime.