DRDO and PSU's

Some updates​

1.Tender is out by army for Upgradation/Akash (Qty-408).​

2.astra mk2 is tested agnaist an aerial target in 2023
3.last time it was the canister now tender is out for refurbishment of the main luncher, may be user wants of akash ng.
4.bdl is making mpatgm , 70 nos
5.m1 missile also known as pglrsam , exists from 2023
6.2 su 30s are modified for rudram 3 trial, they were previously modified for ngarm.
 
fire starter said:
Genrols & babus are our biggest bane.

View: https://x.com/Indrani1_Roy/status/1891544774542344673?t=tU6sWDfFT4kp2lPJgBEmoQ&s=19

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This is the issue when ex-genrols, defence exfart saying we will import SU-57, F-35, Rafales. It is simply pain to integrate the range of weapons we are developing and we need OEM support to do this. Till now we did not able to integrate Astra in Rafale, We cannot touch anything in US jet, coming to SU-57 we will get an airframe and do the avionics.

Lot of time is getting wasted on doing an simple integration itself. If we go with Imported route, we will force to buy everything that will be compatible with that only. Our defence products will be in brochures and expo only.
 
fire starter said:
Their intention is very clear that's why rudram 1 is stuck in trials. Same old modus operandi. .

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1782792458344218809?t=HssrtfJYL5umWVtq93VlNQ&s=19

View: https://x.com/SourovSurya/status/1891531071629525158?t=vGhupi4m9kaRrOB5kTd7kw&s=19

Jitni gaali di jaaye in madarchodo ko utna kam hai.

All their perks & promotion must be stopped until an unless they order indigenous systems.
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View: https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/1891545398331711850
 
fire starter said:
Their intention is very clear that's why rudram 1 is stuck in trials. Same old modus operandi. .

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1782792458344218809?t=HssrtfJYL5umWVtq93VlNQ&s=19

View: https://x.com/SourovSurya/status/1891531071629525158?t=vGhupi4m9kaRrOB5kTd7kw&s=19

Jitni gaali di jaaye in madarchodo ko utna kam hai.

All their perks & promotion must be stopped until an unless they order indigenous systems.
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Yt2211 said:

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Let me clarify the game in case you haven't seen through the obvious yet. India lacks mass mfg cos for armaments across the board. This is an important point to consider as we're going up against China.

The idea behind getting Foreign OEMs ( F-OEMs) to set up shop here is killing 2-3 birds in one stone viz - MII , exports , building redundancies besides supplementing our domestic armament production.

It's for the same reason we're integrating armaments from multiple countries onto the Tejas & MKIs. On the face of it we're developing these capabilities on the Tejas with a view to enhance its exports potential . It's only partially true .

The real reason is we don't have to integrate external stores in case of a war like we did in Kargil.

Some of these weapons will also go into the Jaguars , Mirage-2000 & the MiG-29s. Then there's the Rafales with ISE.

As far as Israel goes , the recent war has made clear they lack strategic depth plus there are manpower issues if they get into an all out war situation with Iran.

India offers the best bet for them to mfg their weapons here for both their & our usage. Plus it's more economical to mfg here as compared to Israel.
 
Does anyone know what would DRDO and MoD do with a space object tracking radar?

Aren't analysis of presence of space debris in close proximity to orbits of our satellites, debris catalogue generation and these type of stuff done by ISRO through their own Multi object tracking radar? FPZlYWAacAUPCrJ.webp

Why would DRDO want to have its own radar for space object tracking purpose unless space object tracking is euphemism for something entirely different 😸.

Or is it because we are planning on launching 50+ satellites exclusively for defence purposes over the next few years and the space object tracking radar will play it's role there ? But even that doesn't make sense since all these sats will be launched by ISRO and hence ISRO can take care of the presence of debris and related matter ?

The ISRO Multi Object tracking radar itself is a very capable radar with 800 km range for 0.01 sqm.
 
www.eletimes.com

DRDO Trinetra UAV Advancing India’s Indigenous Drone Capabilities

The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) of India has been instrumental in advancing indigenous unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) technologies to meet the diverse operational requirements of the Indian Armed Forces.
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The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) of India has been instrumental in advancing indigenous unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) technologies to meet the diverse operational requirements of the Indian Armed Forces. Among its notable developments is the Trinetra UAV, a cutting-edge drone system designed to enhance surveillance, reconnaissance, and tactical operations.

Design and Development

The Trinetra UAV, aptly named after the Sanskrit term for “Three Eyes,” signifies a comprehensive surveillance capability. This UAV is engineered to be lightweight and highly portable, primarily constructed from advanced composite materials that ensure structural integrity while minimizing weight. Its compact design facilitates rapid deployment across various terrains, making it an invaluable asset for field operations.
 
Azaad said:
MMRCA failed coz Dassault walked back on their word. If Dassault had reservations about HAL it's should have issued a dissenting note or a note of no conformance when submitting their technical & commercial bids.They did no such thing.
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NO, NO and NO.
Indian top brass wanted Dassault to give a full warranty on the birds assembled by HAL.
Dassault explained that it was only possible if HAL agreed to have some Dassault quality engineers inside HAL to be sure the components were built the correct manner and the jets assembled according to Dassault Standards. HAL absolutely refused. Dassault never agreed to relax on it.
And if it wasn't Dassault the L1, the answer would have been the same. All known the HAL lower quality tracks.
 
Bengaluru:
Adani Defence and Aerospace in collaboration with DRDO unveiled India's Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System at Aero India here on Tuesday.

Dr B K Das, Director General (Electronics & Communication System) of DRDO launched the platform in the presence of defence experts, and industry partners.

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.

With the increasing use of drones in modern warfare for both reconnaissance and offensive operations, the need for a robust anti-drone mechanism has become imperative.


fire starter said:
It is a 30kw system.
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Azaad said:
It was only once negotiations commenced after they were declared the winner that they reneged on their word making excuses blaming HAL . That's the long & short of it.
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The full warranty request only occur when the bargaining begun.

And if Dassault was so unfriendly, why not make a deal for MMRCA or for a GtoG deal with L2 ???
 
Patriots said:
Bengaluru:
Adani Defence and Aerospace in collaboration with DRDO unveiled India's Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System at Aero India here on Tuesday.

Dr B K Das, Director General (Electronics & Communication System) of DRDO launched the platform in the presence of defence experts, and industry partners.

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.

With the increasing use of drones in modern warfare for both reconnaissance and offensive operations, the need for a robust anti-drone mechanism has become imperative.
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Adani Defence & Aerospace, DRDO Unveil Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System​

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.​

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Bengaluru:
Adani Defence and Aerospace in collaboration with DRDO unveiled India's Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System at Aero India here on Tuesday.

Dr B K Das, Director General (Electronics & Communication System) of DRDO launched the platform in the presence of defence experts, and industry partners.

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.

With the increasing use of drones in modern warfare for both reconnaissance and offensive operations, the need for a robust anti-drone mechanism has become imperative.


"The Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System ensures long-range protection, agility, and precision, making it a formidable asset for modern defence forces. It offers seamless protection through advanced sensor capabilities, including automatic detection, classification, and neutralisation of drones," it said in a statement.

According to the statement, Integrated onto a single 4x4 vehicle, the system provides a highly mobile, agile, reliable, and self-sufficient counter-drone solution. It features a high-energy laser system for precise drone neutralization, a 7.62 mm gun for aerial threat engagement, and advanced radar, SIGINT, electro-optical sensors, and jammers for real-time target acquisition, tracking, and neutralisation within a range of 10 km.

The integration of multiple counter-drone technologies into a single platform ensures rapid response and operational flexibility, making it a critical asset for securing India's defence infrastructure.

Ashish Rajvanshi, CEO of Adani Defence and Aerospace said, "This unveiling is a testament to the success of India's defence innovation ecosystem, driven by DRDO's world-class R&D and the Transfer of Technology (ToT) framework. Adani Defence and Aerospace is proud to translate DRDO's cutting-edge technology into an operationally ready solution that strengthens our armed forces' ability to counter evolving drone threats." "By leveraging our advanced manufacturing capabilities, we are committed to ensuring that our armed forces have access to the most advanced, indigenous defence technologies to safeguard the nation's strategic interests," he said.
 
Patriots said:
Bengaluru:
Adani Defence and Aerospace in collaboration with DRDO unveiled India's Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System at Aero India here on Tuesday.

Dr B K Das, Director General (Electronics & Communication System) of DRDO launched the platform in the presence of defence experts, and industry partners.

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.

With the increasing use of drones in modern warfare for both reconnaissance and offensive operations, the need for a robust anti-drone mechanism has become imperative.
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Patriots said:
Bengaluru:
Adani Defence and Aerospace in collaboration with DRDO unveiled India's Vehicle-Mounted Counter-Drone System at Aero India here on Tuesday.

Dr B K Das, Director General (Electronics & Communication System) of DRDO launched the platform in the presence of defence experts, and industry partners.

According to the company, this state-of-the-art system marks a significant step in enhancing India's defence preparedness against evolving aerial threats.

With the increasing use of drones in modern warfare for both reconnaissance and offensive operations, the need for a robust anti-drone mechanism has become imperative.
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View: https://youtu.be/TYscmseksZQ?si=tQqqFF3VtHgzi0MK
at 2:12, he says this system is already being procured by BSF
 
BON PLAN said:
NO, NO and NO.
Indian top brass wanted Dassault to give a full warranty on the birds assembled by HAL.
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The issue of the OEM GUARANTEEING the product workmanship & quality was in built within the tender. Granted it was a stupid clause but why did Dassault have to accept it then only to renege later?

It could have issued a non conformance letter clearing its stand on the issue . It did not . Had that been the case, Dassault would've come out in the open once negotiations collapsed in public with such a letter stating they were opposed to this clause from the beginning . Did you see or hear of it? No you didn't because Dassault played dirty .


BON PLAN said:
Dassault explained that it was only possible if HAL agreed to have some Dassault quality engineers inside HAL to be sure the components were built the correct manner and the jets assembled according to Dassault Standards. HAL absolutely refused.
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HAL didn't refuse anything . Dassault also wanted machineries of its own selection worth hundreds of millions installed in HAL claiming the man hours to construct such a system woult be much more on account of decreased automation .

This is similar to the Naval Group's approach which qualified local vendors for work on the Scorpene program to be effect local supplies after ToT to them & then backed off from certifying the product resulting in cost over runs in millions of USD / Euros & time.

Ever wonder why the IN never bothered to invite NG to bid for the Project 75 (I) framing the requirements such that NG never qualified in spite of repeated requests to the GoI / MoD & the IN by NG to consider them from everyone from Macron downwards ? Now you know.

Seems to me it's a le francais hustle. The Malaysians, the Australians, the Norwegians & now the Indians had pretty much the same story to report about NGs tactics .

If the IN wasn't in such a dire shape regarding the submarine strength, the additional 3 nos Scorpenes wouldn't have materialised too.
BON PLAN said:
Dassault never agreed to relax on it.
And if it wasn't Dassault the L1, the answer would have been the same.
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If Dassault wasn't L1 why would they even be called?

BON PLAN said:
All known the HAL lower quality tracks.
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Precisely. Which brings us back to the original question - so why's SAFRAN sub contracting mfg forged parts to HAL ? Is it part of their CSR activities?
 
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