DRDO and PSU's

[Suryavanshi]

That handle quoting Chinese achievements is an anti Chinese handle . Was Perma banned from PDF for getting into scraps with Chinese members there. As far as the content of his tweet goes , I recall seeing it same time 2 years ago. He must have tweeted this just as a reminder of Chinese capacities.

We should made preparations much before news like this came out in public domain to scale up in case of emergencies . Are we ? Will we ? I'm not too sanguine about it.

Only adani ambani and tata can do this


View: https://youtu.be/tGOiduX5T1g?feature=shared

The above factory was inaugurated in February and is already producing ammunition.

Adani has a ammunition factory operating with just 18 workers.

Sure they can Also build missiles and bombs as well if gormint gives the go ahead.

You cannot hope for PSUs and OFBs to scale, that's next to impossible, they are 2 decades behind in technology.

of course this will cause some people to chug cyanide pills like the comment below.

 

[Azaad]

Only adani ambani and tata can do this


View: https://youtu.be/tGOiduX5T1g?feature=shared

The above factory was inaugurated in February and is already producing ammunition.

Adani has a ammunition factory operating with just 18 workers.

Sure they can Also build missiles and bombs as well if gormint gives the go ahead.

You cannot hope for PSUs and OFBs to scale, that's next to impossible, they are 2 decades behind in technology.

of course this will cause some people to chug cyanide pills like the comment below.

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View: https://twitter.com/vaimaniki/status/1606222393680068609?s=19

THREAD !

The quoted tweet is the OP of a long thread on Chinese capabilities as far as their rocket / missile force goes . The sheer variety it contains is mind boggling including the numbers

Mind you since they've NFU as a declared policy they've also conventionally armed IRBMs & SRBMs apart from N armed ones . That's another reason both arsenals are controlled by their Rocket Force unlike our N weapons which is under the SFC. Of course , everybody takes Chinese claims of NFU at face value.

OTOH , we come up with the Shaurya missile with a range between 750 - around 1200 kms & promptly put it under the SFC.


View: https://twitter.com/CollinSLKoh/status/1678868725804699648?s=19

For those interested in a deep dive into the PLARF , this tweet is for you. Please note these tweets are 2 yrs old & all the data it contains is at least 2 yrs old if not older for obvious reasons. I'd posted all these on DFI .

It's good to reminded of what we're going up against every now & then , for the battle on the LAC is only part of the larger war which will involve extensive usage of drones / counter drones , ISR not restricted to land & air systems but also space , air warfare where we're up sh!t creek without a paddle , cyber warfare where how prepared are we is anybody's guess & finally the rocket / missile force where this could well be used to target our hinterland & as I've stressing since a long time our deterrent capabilities are woefully inadequate whereas all the building blocks required are available to us & all we've to do is utilise them to build up a force & scale it up.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

In Magahi(Magadhi) language there's a saying... used to describe people who have fallen in distress... "tehuna se lor chuna"... meaning "bleeding tears from knees"... this is exactly what will happen to this nation in case of war.

Gandhian chuitiyagiri, socialist politics & blood sucking demented bureaucracy has brought us on the doorsteps of doom and now it's too late.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/idrwalerts/status/1848554842635333995

 

[jaijaganath]

View: https://x.com/Tej_Intel/status/1849077466377105681
Nachooooo!

 

[Ayan Barat]

View: https://x.com/Tej_Intel/status/1849077466377105681
Nachooooo!

A serious question...what exactly would be the use case of a 250km ranged, 100kg payload, LOS UAV?
A worst Shahed-238!?

 

[Mr.Evil]

View: https://x.com/connect_rishav/status/1849050948783555009

 

[Ayan Barat]

View: https://x.com/connect_rishav/status/1849050948783555009

> The deal was signed more than two years ago in 2022 when there was no indigenous counterpart.
> Fun fact, even today we don't have a 1:1 counterpart. Gautham is a 500kg guided bomb and Gaurav is a 1000kg glide bomb. JDAM-ER is a glide bomb in 250-1000kg class.
> It's my theory so take it at your own risk. JDAM-ER is a "kit" which you can attach to any compatible Mark-80 serious bomb according to the requirement but Gaurav seems to be more like a custom build munition.

> Another interesting fact;
Gautam is made by Gautam...hehehe

 

[Mr.Evil]

> The deal was signed more than two years ago in 2022 when there was no indigenous counterpart.
> Fun fact, even today we don't have a 1:1 counterpart. Gautham is a 500kg guided bomb and Gaurav is a 1000kg glide bomb. JDAM-ER is a glide bomb in 250-1000kg class.
> It's my theory so take it at your own risk. JDAM-ER is a "kit" which you can attach to any compatible Mark-80 serious bomb according to the requirement but Gaurav seems to be more like a custom build munition.

Your theory makes sense to me

 

[jaijaganath]

A serious question...what exactly would be the use case of a 250km ranged, 100kg payload, LOS UAV?
A worst Shahed-238!?

Are bhai jab indigenous drones main itne lale pade ho toh kuch bhi induct ho chalega
Atleast we will use manik instead of saturn engine
Atleast kuch to industry develop ho

 

[truthsoldier]

> The deal was signed more than two years ago in 2022 when there was no indigenous counterpart.
> Fun fact, even today we don't have a 1:1 counterpart. Gautham is a 500kg guided bomb and Gaurav is a 1000kg glide bomb. JDAM-ER is a glide bomb in 250-1000kg class.
> It's my theory so take it at your own risk. JDAM-ER is a "kit" which you can attach to any compatible Mark-80 serious bomb according to the requirement but Gaurav seems to be more like a custom build munition.

> Another interesting fact;
Gautam is made by Gautam...hehehe

Any idea of cost of JDAM Er kits vs Gaurav glide bombs? If comparable I don't see any rationale in giving orders to US military industrial complex

 

[ezsasa]

> The deal was signed more than two years ago in 2022 when there was no indigenous counterpart.
> Fun fact, even today we don't have a 1:1 counterpart. Gautham is a 500kg guided bomb and Gaurav is a 1000kg glide bomb. JDAM-ER is a glide bomb in 250-1000kg class.
> It's my theory so take it at your own risk. JDAM-ER is a "kit" which you can attach to any compatible Mark-80 serious bomb according to the requirement but Gaurav seems to be more like a custom build munition.

> Another interesting fact;
Gautam is made by Gautam...hehehe

TARA (250,450,500) ?




drdo 2023 press release.

https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/DRDO-celebrates-its-65th-Foundation-Day.pdf

 

[Ayan Barat]

Any idea of cost of JDAM Er kits vs Gaurav glide bombs? If comparable I don't see any rationale in giving orders to US military industrial complex

Again, completely my theory...so be careful

For a good amount of time Gaurav is going to be slightly expensive than JDAM-ER.
The reason being that as of now more than 3,00,000 JDAMs have already been produced so economies of scale would make it way cheaper than Gaurav/Gautham which is yet to get even the first big order. But then the fact that Indian tech is slightly cheaper than US would lower the price of Gaurav too. And lastly the fact that JDAM is just a kit added to a Mk-80 bomb that's been produced by the millions as compared to Gaurav, which is custom made munitions would lower JDAM's price a bit.

In last fiscal report the cost of JDAM (average cost combining all variants) was $22,000. As for Gaurav/Gautham it's hard to get numbers until an actual order is placed.

TARA (250,450,500) ?

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drdo 2023 press release.

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https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/DRDO-celebrates-its-65th-Foundation-Day.pdf

we don't have

AON, then prototyping, captive flight, inert testing, actual testing, RFI for ToT, RFP, evaluation, L1, actual transfer of technology, production starts...
Vs
Atleast for now, Tejas is actually flying with a long range PGM

 

[ezsasa]

AON, then prototyping, captive flight, inert testing, actual testing, RFI for ToT, RFP, evaluation, L1, actual transfer of technology, production starts...
Vs
Atleast for now, Tejas is actually flying with a long range PGM

TARA or Tactical Advanced Range Augmentation is all set for another round of testing.Two units of Su30 MKi are getting modified at HAL


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1837070909137637710

 

[Ayan Barat]

TARA or Tactical Advanced Range Augmentation is all set for another round of testing.Two units of Su30 MKi are getting modified at HAL


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1837070909137637710

As much as I want everything from Gaurav to Gautam to PG-HSLD to TARA to JSR's PGMs to get inducted as soon as possible...you can't convince me to take Alpha as a source

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/connect_rishav/status/1849050948783555009

There's another reason you'd see a lot of Israeli US & European weapons integrated into the Tejas to begin with followed by the MKI & some if not the rest of the FAs in our inventory which is we plan to export the Tejas so a diverse basket of weapons integrated on to the Tejas should make it an attractive proposition as if you were to undertake such integration later as per the customer's requirements it's not only time consuming it also costs a fortune.

The second & unstated reason being if we're due for a war with the Chinese we will need to rely on external stores to an extent as our mfg prowess will never equal that of China's & you don't go about integrating such weapons in the middle of a war .

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

A serious question...what exactly would be the use case of a 250km ranged, 100kg payload, LOS UAV?
A worst Shahed-238!?

Who said 250km ranged ????
What is you're source.
It is flying wing design, a flying wing design of this size would be super stealthy, with Isr equipment integrated conformally maintaining stealth would boost intelligence. Ig something like eots or maybe with sar. it will be rq 170 equivalent.

Anyways can u provide some source for 250km.

Even if its 250km Ig still it would be alot for western front along Punjab, Jammu, Rajasthan etc.
It's flying wing I suppose it's endurance should be good. Should go below 6-7hrs in Worst case scenarios.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Who said 250km ranged ????
What is you're source.
It is flying wing design, a flying wing design of this size would be super stealthy, with Isr equipment integrated conformally maintaining stealth would boost intelligence. Ig something like eots or maybe with sar. it will be rq 170 equivalent.

Anyways can u provide some source for 250km.

Even if its 250km Ig still it would be alot for western front along Punjab, Jammu, Rajasthan etc.
It's flying wing I suppose it's endurance should be good. Should go below 6-7hrs in Worst case scenarios.

It's an 1t class UAV
The landing gears used on it are bigger and bulkier than they need to be because Stealth Wing Flying Testbed...so they'll eat up more weight than normal
Powered by Saturn 36MT with an installed weight of 100kg
It produces a maximum thrust of 450kgf with specific fuel consumption of 0.71kg/kgf*hr; so for half an hour you'd need approximately 160kg of fuel
Assuming the vehicle...heck it, koi insaan subah se shaam kitna hi hisaab kare.
Here's an ADE poster with both the range and payload

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1849109100673774014