DRDO and PSU's

[Ayan Barat]

But I believe that they cannot provide accurate targeting solutions. Pinpoint the location of flying objects.

Yup, that's pretty much all in radar 101.

Long boi waves = longer range but poor resolution
Smol waves = shorter range but high resolution

So the only way to use a longer wavelength radar for target engagement is to send a missile with active radar in the vague location of the target and then the on board seeker of missile does its job.

Your suggestions to neutralize OTH radars are welcome.
I would like to add one more suggestion.
Will a detonation of a very low yield neutron bomb in the ionosphere covering the area of interest put the OTH radar out of operation for a short time.
A very low yield neutron bomb mainly releases high energy charged particles which will interact with the ionosphere and temporarily disperse it.

Again...possible but not feasible.

There are targets that are considered "equivalent to nuclear attack" like the Three Gorges Dam in China. So even if you attack them with conventional weapon, that country would perceive it as a nuclear attack.

And here you're using a nuclear device. No matter how safe of a neutron bomb or how much miligram TNT equivalent bomb you use...my guy, you would be paying quite a spectacular price for jamming just one OTH radar.

 

[Tridev123]

Yup, that's pretty much all in radar 101.

Long boi waves = longer range but poor resolution
Smol waves = shorter range but high resolution

So the only way to use a longer wavelength radar for target engagement is to send a missile with active radar in the vague location of the target and then the on board seeker of missile does its job.

Again...possible but not feasible.

There are targets that are considered "equivalent to nuclear attack" like the Three Gorges Dam in China. So even if you attack them with conventional weapon, that country would perceive it as a nuclear attack.

And here you're using a nuclear device. No matter how safe of a neutron bomb or how much miligram TNT equivalent bomb you use...my guy, you would be paying quite a spectacular price for jamming just one OTH radar.

Yes,there is a risk of escalation if a nuclear device is used.
But, then the detonation would be outside the concerned country's Airspace.
Maybe the chances of escalation are 50-50.
We need to calculate the gains vs risks.

Any idea where are the Chinese OTH radars are located.
Do they have one on the Tibetan plateau.

Where is our(NTRO) OTH located.
How many OTH radars do we have.

Funny thing is we don't need an OTH to cover Pakistani Airspace. Their country has insignificant depth.

China is a different kind of beast.

 

[Ayan Barat]

But, then the detonation would be outside the concerned country's Airspace.

Even the perceived threat of a nuclear fallout is considered enough for a nuclear retaliation. This is one of the biggest reason why Russia is so hesitant to use even a tactical nuclear weapon around NATO countries.

Any idea where are the Chinese OTH radars are located.
Do they have one on the Tibetan plateau.

Okay, so listen carefully
Write a mail to info.nia@gov.in asking them to patch you up with someone from R&AW. Then he or she will answer this

Where is our(NTRO) OTH located.
How many OTH radars do we have.

As for our information, I'd recommend good ol IAF
01123010400

 

[Tridev123]

Even the perceived threat of a nuclear fallout is considered enough for a nuclear retaliation. This is one of the biggest reason why Russia is so hesitant to use even a tactical nuclear weapon around NATO countries.

Okay, so listen carefully
Write a mail to info.nia@gov.in asking them to patch you up with someone from R&AW. Then he or she will answer this

As for our information, I'd recommend good ol IAF
01123010400

A witty reply.
ROFL.

But, seriously with so many remote sensing satellites covering earth.
Nowadays nothing is totally secret.
Google Earth is just one provider of satellite imagery.
It is not totally impractical that satellite photos of OTH radar sites in China and India are available in the public domain. After all the radars have to be over ground and not underground.
I assumed that you might have seen such pics.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/MazagonDockLtd/status/1844315270900482080

 

[Azaad]

Were I wrong when I said UN Generals are blind, deaf, myopic, Zero knowledge and zero willingness to work??

Answer is No.

All who blindly believes in UN General's excuses to dump indigenous weapons are actually fools

You forgot to tag /mist_consecutive .

 

[fire starter]

ADE is developing ALUAV.

 

[Zoid Raptor]

View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1843583414882226522

Inko koi farak nahi padta

Zero focus on ergonomics or comfort. If this was created in 4.0 campaign, I wonder what kinda filth was created in the first three!

As a matter of fact, they wasted time creating this abomination because who in their right mind would want to sit on a cold arse metal surface on a wintery Bangalore morning. The corners and edges aren't rounded off properly making this prone to injury

Maybe give this to some intel agency who can use it while implementing their torture techniques...cold arse metal chair while being electrocuted is a deadly combination

 

[jaijaganath]

Zero focus on ergonomics or comfort. If this was created in 4.0 campaign, I wonder what kinda filth was created in the first three!

As a matter of fact, they wasted time creating this abomination because who in their right mind would want to sit on a cold arse metal surface on a wintery Bangalore morning. The corners and edges aren't rounded off properly making this prone to injury

Maybe give this to some intel agency who can use it while implementing their torture techniques...cold arse metal chair while being electrocuted is a deadly combination

View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1843853917027017119

Ajj ka update lelo frands

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Will a detonation of a very low yield neutron bomb in the ionosphere covering the area of interest put the OTH radar out of operation for a short time.

Depending on the yield, it can permanently put the radar out of action.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://youtu.be/OwgsKJDrAEU?si=awSdzD5fcZm6Fo9V

 

[fire starter]

Some of the interesting projects ongoing under idex.

Anti-Helicopter Missile Fired from Torpedo Tube of Submarine.

Guided Missile with Turbojet Engine.

Phased Array Multi-Beam Communication System for Ships and
Unmanned Platforms (Surface/Sub-Surface/Aerial)

Multi-Function Satcom and Tropo-Scatter Communication System for Shipborne Installation.

Lightweight Mini UAV Radar Based on Active Beam-Forming Technology.

Indigenous Development of Unmanned Airborne Combat Aircraft.

 

[Hawkeye]

Babe! Wake up, IA has released a RFI for nEw GenERaTioN ATGM

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/rfi/2033/931bac8a-70e4-4428-b4f6-6395a6fd2916.pdf

Tailor made for Spike LR2 or Akeron MP atgm.
Few points where our MPATGM lacks- range of excess or no less than 4km and the fire, observe and update capability provided by a fibre optic connection.

This is the good old IA i remember where current made products are never inducted after going through hell of trials and a new goal post is set up for the next Uber weapon version.

I hope they induct MPATGM in its current config. But there's a 99.98% chance that it won't be.

Anyway to guys crying about Mpatgm being overweight, again look at reqmts, it is not.

 

[fire starter]

Babe! Wake up, IA has released a RFI for nEw GenERaTioN ATGM

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/rfi/2033/931bac8a-70e4-4428-b4f6-6395a6fd2916.pdf

Tailor made for Spike LR2 or Akeron MP atgm.
Few points where our MPATGM lacks- range of excess or no less than 4km and the fire, observe and update capability provided by a fibre optic connection.

This is the good old IA i remember where current made products are never inducted after going through hell of trials and a new goal post is set up for the next Uber weapon version.

I hope they induct MPATGM in its current config. But there's a 99.98% chance that it won't be.

Anyway to guys crying about Mpatgm being overweight, again look at reqmts, it is not.

Same old modus operandi of imported army.

Keep dragging indigenous system in the name of trials at the same time relase a tailor made RFI for imported system.

 

[Ayan Barat]

update capability provided by a fibre optic connection.

"Wireless Guidance System"

Again some interesting GSQR going on
If I'm not wrong then just a couple of ATGMs use wireless guidance.

But when I'm considering all three guidance requirements I'm getting this

And I'm pretty sure that's not how a Venn diagram is supposed to look
Can someone help find me the intersection?

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

Let's not forget it was called a mini awacs.
It's engine might not be as good as western one for electrical output but they are descent enough. I still doubt it wouldn't surpass f15 ex radar.
But we would have a big leap forward with GaN compensating for all.

They're is another thing i had heard that different shapes and sizes result better performance I think I heard abt rafale for using miniturised and better transmit & receive modules. The minituarisation of tr modules have helped to fit mind blowing 2400 tr modules.
Also the GaN too.
I think rafale offsets had included purchases of tr modules from bel. For which they must have given the needed tot. This must have helped us. Right now bel is primarily focused on GaN.

While GaAs aesa has 40% power added efficiency while GaN aesa has 50% pae
And pesa have 60%.

With other technologies getting more advance like trms,cooling ig the performance still would be much better than expected. It feels this huge trms would get sufficient power as the number is so high..

But we are forgetting the uttam was optimised for low frequency functioning too. Like in L band. The tejas's uttam has 992 trms with 912 being sole x band and rest are for L band could be for even lower & diverse bandwidth this could go further ahead in virupaksha. Also GaN have better bandwidth for signal transmission

While virupaksha takes this game all next level. 2400 trms wouldn't be for x band alone. No way it can exploit them all at once. This many are fitted to use diverse bandwidth like the above mentioned but much better than predecessor. The accessibility of low bands on fcr has many advantages.
The stealth is kept in mind by un genrols this time. Low frequency radars are very good against low observable aircrafts and give a very long range but can't give fire control solution long range. But fcr accessible to such diverse bandwidth working in conjunction would be able to target stealth much better than a lone x band fcr would do. Also being much less susceptible to jamming it would counter the x band jammers much much easily.
This low band accessibility would make su30 a much better mini awacs that it would have been earlier. Despite GaN aesa's having pae of 50% compared to 60% of PESAs.
The lpi(low probability of intercept) feature would be much more capable too with this diverse bandwidth.
The bars is a big asx 650kg radar ig there was no weight constraint for them so that's why they are able put so much in it.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I would want to correct myself abt the shapes & sizes and minituarisation of trms & else somewhere if I'm wrong.
If you have anything to share related plz do.

the super su30s virupaksha radar will employ Vivaldi TSAs. Much more refined from there predecessors the Vivaldi is refined and minituarised form of TSA.
Astra seeker employs Vivaldi tr modules.

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

Any update on this ?
View: https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1408842998431961090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1408842998431961090%7Ctwgr%5E4d0aa84c9f52248f4592c9c694ad798863178041%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.strategicfront.org%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Findian-aesa-radar-developments.1820%2Fpage-19