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snakeeyes07 said:
Based on the article, in my opinion HAL is taking the correct proactive steps re MK1A. I guess public/SM pressure works and now it is DRDO under spotlight for getting indigenous avionics certified ASAP.
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Then tell hal to give aircrafts for certification, drdo has the whole ew suite ready, how will they certify?
And on other note, our ministry is heavily infiltrated by israeli dalals, on a whole next level
 
fire starter said:
This whole drama of lack of test bed is never going to end.

Govt should snatch few tejas from HAL & IAF crooks & place them directly under the control of ADA/DRDO.


View: https://x.com/Firezstarter1/status/1941008310041469408?t=rwAI5h0Q0byfoc5eS6Zvmw&s=19
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If they dont place orders today then whatever happens that is EW gets certified or elta is chosen ultimately, it will be late thus resulting delays in delivery of aircraft due to lack of EW suite or radar

If EW gets certified and orders are placed they can only build 10-12 units per year and delivery wont start early too further add time to build capacity
And if elta is chosen then placing orders that is after 6-7 months will also delay the delivery too

Decision needs to be taken within this week or next

Who is responsible is different thing but now we need to find solution
 
fire starter said:
This whole drama of lack of test bed is never going to end.

Govt should snatch few tejas from HAL & IAF crooks & place them directly under the control of ADA/DRDO.


View: https://x.com/Firezstarter1/status/1941008310041469408?t=rwAI5h0Q0byfoc5eS6Zvmw&s=19
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Tejas is a meme project.

PMO/Govt doesn't care.

HAL/ADA/DRDO are either aaram se or fighting each other.

Users have no interest in Tejas and don't want anything else from India so they fire off ASQRs accordingly.

The same pattern will be repeating for MWF and AMCA till some wunderwaffe are imported in small quantities.

imo they should just sell HAL/ADA to some private firm, maybe they can license any developments related to the Tejas ecosystem to interested companies and countries, like how the Israeli radars, EWs, missiles etc have roots in the IAI Lavi project
 
snakeeyes07 said:
Should pack at least 12 VSHORADS then India will have it's own SeaRAM.

View: https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1941133519285272824
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Sea ram missile,
range:-~10km.
Weight:-~ 73kg.
Warhead :- ~10kg
Top speed:- Mach 2+.
Designed specially as a point defense against incoming missiles, including supersonic missiles.


Drdo VSHORAD
Range ~6km.
Weight~20kg.
Warhead~2 kg.
Top speed~ mach 1.5
Designed mainly to be used against subsonic targets.

Naval VSHORAD is comparable French naval mistral missile.
But even then mistral has max speed of Mach ~2.7
 
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darkflame said:
According to shenesh astra mk2 only has a range of 120km, less than pl15e's 145km range😞😞 at 36:50 of this video
View: https://youtu.be/Tyf6mEs4D9U
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How is that possible if Astra mk1 with single pulse has 100+ km range.

If he means the practical/tactical range when launched from lower altitude or not high supersonic speed then the same reduced range will also apply to PL-15/PL-15E (particularly affects any solid fueled BVR).
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randombully said:
Astra mk2.
120-130km effective.
160km max.

Astra mk1.
70-90km effective.
110km max.
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But drdo said in some posters and slides that astra mk1 and mk2 have some new propellant and grain structure which will give it a higher energy density hence much more range like 110km for mk1 and 160nfor mk2

How can we believe this useless dalal yt channel
 
liberalredditor said:
But drdo said in some posters and slides that astra mk1 and mk2 have some new propellant and grain structure which will give it a higher energy density hence much more range like 110km for mk1 and 160nfor mk2

How can we believe this useless dalal yt channel
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You don't.

Effective ranges( 50% or higher kill probability)are always less than max ranges.
And that too for incoming fighter jets head on.
If enemy fighter is running way, the Effective range of missile becomes even less.
Plus altitudes at which missile is launch also affects very much.
Max ranges, are calculated at optimal altitude 40k+ feet and at high subsonic launch speed.
With a even higher altitude and launching at supersonic speeds, range can be further increased, more than on paper max ranges.

PL15e with max 145km range, will have Effective range of 100-120km.

Aim 120d with max range of 160+ km, will have Effective range 120-140km.

From latest info, from drdo's posters.
Astra mk2 have max range of 160km.
Astra mk1 have max range of 110km.


Ps:- Another advantage of higher max range is, even if kill probability is low, when missile is launched at a distance near it's max range, it still forces the enemy jet to go on defensive and retreat and in many cases abandon the assigned mission
 
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