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Canon and Nikon have DUV machines which can itch upto only 14nm node chips. The companies which are building fabs should evaluate machines from all the 3 companies ASML, Canon, and Nikon. Which one has low down time, less maintenance, cost of servicing, cost of replacing parts, cost to buy, yield on each wafer etc before deciding which one to buy. I hope they buy few from ASML and few from Canon as they would be familiar with working on both kinds of machines. We anyway need ASML machines beyond 14nm node since Canon and Nikon don't have EUV machines.
 
concard said:
Canon and Nikon have DUV machines which can itch upto only 14nm node chips. The companies which are building fabs should evaluate machines from all the 3 companies ASML, Canon, and Nikon. Which one has low down time, less maintenance, cost of servicing, cost of replacing parts, cost to buy, yield on each wafer etc before deciding which one to buy. I hope they buy few from ASML and few from Canon as they would be familiar with working on both kinds of machines. We anyway need ASML machines beyond 14nm node since Canon and Nikon don't have EUV machines.
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5nm

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They seem to be claiming 5nm on technicality. In reality it can do 14nm comfortably. We anyway are not going to be making cutting edge chips. We need to be self reliant in FPGA's, Microcontrollers, and ASIC's. 14nm node is more than enough to make them. Many applications still use 90nm, 65nm, 45nm node to make these chips. We are starting with 28nm. This means we can pack more transistors and more functionalities in a single chip.
 
concard said:
Canon and Nikon have DUV machines which can itch upto only 14nm node chips. The companies which are building fabs should evaluate machines from all the 3 companies ASML, Canon, and Nikon. Which one has low down time, less maintenance, cost of servicing, cost of replacing parts, cost to buy, yield on each wafer etc before deciding which one to buy. I hope they buy few from ASML and few from Canon as they would be familiar with working on both kinds of machines. We anyway need ASML machines beyond 14nm node since Canon and Nikon don't have EUV machines.
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I don't think we will get EUV anyway. By the time in 15 years we gain experience in DUV upto 6nm, we probably won't be in good terms with US or suffering some kind of shadow embargo related to EUV.
 
concard said:
Canon and Nikon have DUV machines which can itch upto only 14nm node chips. The companies which are building fabs should evaluate machines from all the 3 companies ASML, Canon, and Nikon. Which one has low down time, less maintenance, cost of servicing, cost of replacing parts, cost to buy, yield on each wafer etc before deciding which one to buy. I hope they buy few from ASML and few from Canon as they would be familiar with working on both kinds of machines. We anyway need ASML machines beyond 14nm node since Canon and Nikon don't have EUV machines.
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It’s ok. 14 nm is a huge improvement over 28 nm. We will get the EUV eventually but we need to build a manufacturing base. We cannot run without learning to walk and we cannot walk without learning to crawl.
 
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