Germany

[VictorDelta4]

India would be right to not touch Germany with a 10ft pole right now.

 

[Suryavanshi]

BEML on its website showcase every single construction equipment at its arsenal. But till now never seen an BEML equipment's employed on Road constructions, never seen BEML showroom for selling this products.

MINING & CONSTRUCTION – BEML India

bemlindia.in

Only seen TATA-Hitachi, JCB and other brands like Eicher.

AFAIK every single BEML product is more or less licensed production of counterparts already existing in Euroland. Our BEML mine vehicle was also a license copy of a German machine.
That said I don't think india will be able to produce most of those 60% localized parts let alone upscaling or tuning them.

 

[Suryavanshi]

India would be right to not touch Germany with a 10ft pole right now.

They can sell us their IP rights for a decent shekles, no objection. They are the ones that originally mastered multi layered circuit and sold manufacturing tech for the same to China. Now what China did is researched the tech reversed engineer the same and innovated and upgraded the same. As it stands now China supplies the world with circuits.

https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/cci/innovation-systems-policy-analysis/2014/discussionpaper_43_2014.pdf

Go through the above.

As it stands Choina is providing the same to dupont.

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group Sign Strategic Cooperation Agreement to Advance High-End Printed Circuit Board Technology Development

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group announced they have entered into a strategic cooperation agreement in advanced printed circuit board (PCBs) technology.

www.dupont.com

See as it stands, India isn't able to leverage JVs and IP rights as much as Choina.

As long as Sarkari ecosystem and reservation in scientific role exists there will be no development

 

[SKC]

The German Govt Coalition has collapsed and they have called for Early/Snaps election early 2025.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/ger...ections-expected-by-end-of-march-2025/3386593

https://www.barrons.com/news/german-big-business-calls-for-early-vote-economic-vision-e3f1ffce

 

[LETHALFORCE]

They can sell us their IP rights for a decent shekles, no objection. They are the ones that originally mastered multi layered circuit and sold manufacturing tech for the same to China. Now what China did is researched the tech reversed engineer the same and innovated and upgraded the same. As it stands now China supplies the world with circuits.

https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/cci/innovation-systems-policy-analysis/2014/discussionpaper_43_2014.pdf

Go through the above.

As it stands Choina is providing the same to dupont.

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group Sign Strategic Cooperation Agreement to Advance High-End Printed Circuit Board Technology Development

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group announced they have entered into a strategic cooperation agreement in advanced printed circuit board (PCBs) technology.

www.dupont.com

See as it stands, India isn't able to leverage JVs and IP rights as much as Choina.

As long as Sarkari ecosystem and reservation in scientific role exists there will be no development

EU handed China their whole tech market on a silver platter. LOL

 

[VictorDelta4]

They can sell us their IP rights for a decent shekles, no objection. They are the ones that originally mastered multi layered circuit and sold manufacturing tech for the same to China. Now what China did is researched the tech reversed engineer the same and innovated and upgraded the same. As it stands now China supplies the world with circuits.

https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/cci/innovation-systems-policy-analysis/2014/discussionpaper_43_2014.pdf

Go through the above.

As it stands Choina is providing the same to dupont.

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group Sign Strategic Cooperation Agreement to Advance High-End Printed Circuit Board Technology Development

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group announced they have entered into a strategic cooperation agreement in advanced printed circuit board (PCBs) technology.

www.dupont.com

See as it stands, India isn't able to leverage JVs and IP rights as much as Choina.

As long as Sarkari ecosystem and reservation in scientific role exists there will be no development

I can just hope that GOI realises that they are in the position of power and gets Tech/IP rights as much as possible. The system here is crumbling and now is the right time to strike!!

 

[karn]

I can just hope that GOI realises that they are in the position of power and gets Tech/IP rights as much as possible. The system here is crumbling and now is the right time to strike!!

Already implied in schultz last visit .. Shift your stuff to here from china.. I have read some cope in german spaces about how India is the new china and KSA is new russia etc .
Careful broski or the afd will lynch you lol/

 

[shade2]

India would be right to not touch Germany with a 10ft pole right now.

I disagree.
I say we must go all 10 inches deep into Germany, extract whatever tech transfer or manufacturing investment we can

We made a great mistake in not joining in the rape of Russia in the 90s, Cheen apparently stole a lot of defense stuff including literal scientists from there, this is another golden opportunity, we must swoop down like hungry vultures upon Deutschland

 

[concard]

I can just hope that GOI realises that they are in the position of power and gets Tech/IP rights as much as possible. The system here is crumbling and now is the right time to strike!!

They have given special status with regards to defense purchases from Germany during the recent visit of Olaf Scholz. I say we double down and ask for defense manufacturing in India. The list is long. They have lot of tech with respect to submarines, tanks, rifles, and even Jet Engines. Promise them multibillion euro opportunity in India's defense sector if they are willing to manufacture weapons here. We should start with something small and see their attitude towards us.

CDU will definitely form the next government. I don't think they have answers to present economic crisis either. At the most they will agree to soften the blow to their automotive sector by giving some handouts to their automakers. China market is done and dusted as I have said before. They are barely hanging on to a thread in China. India must grab the opportunity and present a another market of billion people.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/viprabuddhi/status/1854690543500247501?s=19

Can't believe my eyes. Varughesu , Tharakan , Abraham , etc if you're still in Gerala , you guys ought to be upping your mundu & making your way to Berlin

 

[shade2]

View: https://twitter.com/viprabuddhi/status/1854690543500247501?s=19

Can't believe my eyes. Varughesu , Tharakan , Abraham , etc if you're still in Gerala , you guys ought to be upping your mundu & making your way to Berlin

Godless gora men are busy being incels or simps, nobody goes to church, let alone joining priesthood


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdZh5jsk4wk

Anyway this is how Mallu priests are exported to Germany and other places

I once saw a Sunday mass live broadcasted from Latvia or Lithuania, it was a deshi( but not mallu ) priest, his "flock" was like 5 80 year olds, one granpa and four grandmas.

In video above the mallu priest doesn't seem to like the mlecch bread, cold cut meat and cheese for breakfast, misses his hearty mellu breakfast, F.

In many places in the W*st, Churches have got empty but your local Mellu chrischuns bought the Church or if it's Catholic they just setup there because no gora priest, no gora parishioners.

Otherwise harami wh*te bum-bandit cardinals would be having the church demolished to make a parking lot, having it turned into a titty bar, concert hall or Mosque

Y'all Hondus have it much better here, and Christians generally have it much better here even though everyone is chindi or poor and doesn't have fabulous looking churches like goras

 

[crazywithmath]

They can sell us their IP rights for a decent shekles, no objection. They are the ones that originally mastered multi layered circuit and sold manufacturing tech for the same to China. Now what China did is researched the tech reversed engineer the same and innovated and upgraded the same. As it stands now China supplies the world with circuits.

https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/cci/innovation-systems-policy-analysis/2014/discussionpaper_43_2014.pdf

Go through the above.

As it stands Choina is providing the same to dupont.

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group Sign Strategic Cooperation Agreement to Advance High-End Printed Circuit Board Technology Development

DuPont and Zhen Ding Technology Group announced they have entered into a strategic cooperation agreement in advanced printed circuit board (PCBs) technology.

www.dupont.com

See as it stands, India isn't able to leverage JVs and IP rights as much as Choina.

As long as Sarkari ecosystem and reservation in scientific role exists there will be no development

BEML is doing quite well on some fronts. They absorbed the rolling stock tech from Hyundai RoTEM and now using that experience to prototype indigenous HSR trainsets. Also in the process of developing sleeper Vande Bharat together with Titagarh (who themselves have access to European HSR tech courtesy of their Italian subsidiary Firema Transporti).

They have a good track record - gormint can trust them.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtu.be/R1KH0kBzWsA?si=4Z4nfRCGoZyv6wXc

To those wondering why Germany is in the kind of mess it is in today here's Clutterji with a tutorial. To those wondering how Germany not only survived but thrived in spite of its political system up until now , I'm with you.

 

[shade2]

Germany took step toward clearing Türkiye's Eurofighters buy: Official

Türkiye's procurement of Eurofighter jets appears to have gained further momentum as Germany has mandated its sales authority to work on the sale of...

www.dailysabah.com

Per Turki, Germoney has cleared the Turki purchase of Eurofighter Typhoons, which the Germans had held up over Das Humanische Richten Violationen by Turkey

In some other thread folks were discussing should India cooperate with Germoney for defence deals, and our resident German NRI said that there is too much jhanjhat involved, guess he was correct if even Turkeys have to do mujra to get stuff from the country from where they get their tanks and submarines

 

[silentassassin265]

Germany took step toward clearing Türkiye's Eurofighters buy: Official

Türkiye's procurement of Eurofighter jets appears to have gained further momentum as Germany has mandated its sales authority to work on the sale of...

www.dailysabah.com

Per Turki, Germoney has cleared the Turki purchase of Eurofighter Typhoons, which the Germans had held up over Das Humanische Richten Violationen by Turkey

In some other thread folks were discussing should India cooperate with Germoney for defence deals, and our resident German NRI said that there is too much jhanjhat involved, guess he was correct if even Turkeys have to do mujra to get stuff from the country from where they get their tanks and submarines

If we order from Germany now it will give boost to their economy which is stagnant now.
We should take submarines from Spain and jets from France if it's really necessary

 

[concard]

If we order from Germany now it will give boost to their economy which is stagnant now.
We should take submarines from Spain and jets from France if it's really necessary

First of all having many different types of Jets in IAF arsenal will be a pure logistical and maintenance nightmare. Not to mention other things like interoperability of weapons and systems. Another thing is Eurofighter is built by a consortium of 4 countries which includes UK, Germany, Spain, and Italy. Of these UK and Italy are also in F-35 program and have already received their first batches of F-35 fighter Jets. This means there will be no mid-life upgrade costs footed by UK and Italy. The entire mid-life upgrade will fall on Germany and Spain who don't spend much money on defense which means these costs will be passed on to customers who are using Eurofighter like Saudi Arabia and any country which will use or buy in future.

People in IAF are a bunch of corrupt scumbags. Choosing Rafale was the only sensible decision they have taken in the last 20 years. The last thing we need is another foreign mal in IAF. Germany has lot of other defense technology which we must be eyeing for in return for some ToT and manufacturing in India. Germany has AIP technology for submarines too. We should look into that.

 

[VictorDelta4]

First of all having many different types of Jets in IAF arsenal will be a pure logistical and maintenance nightmare. Not to mention other things like interoperability of weapons and systems. Another thing is Eurofighter is built by a consortium of 4 countries which includes UK, Germany, Spain, and Italy. Of these UK and Italy are also in F-35 program and have already received their first batches of F-35 fighter Jets. This means there will be no mid-life upgrade costs footed by UK and Italy. The entire mid-life upgrade will fall on Germany and Spain who don't spend much money on defense which means these costs will be passed on to customers who are using Eurofighter like Saudi Arabia and any country which will use or buy in future.

People in IAF are a bunch of corrupt scumbags. Choosing Rafale was the only sensible decision they have taken in the last 20 years. The last thing we need is another foreign mal in IAF. Germany has lot of other defense technology which we must be eyeing for in return for some ToT and manufacturing in India. Germany has AIP technology for submarines too. We should look into that.

Small Arms, Armour, Air Defence, AIP and civil engineering tech like CnC , drill machines etc should be on Indias shopping list.

 

[shade2]

If we order from Germany now it will give boost to their economy which is stagnant now.
We should take submarines from Spain and jets from France if it's really necessary

It's rather we buy the German subs, the particular line is used by many navies, we can purchase Juan Carlos LHD design from Spaniards for the LHD/LPD program

As the resident German NRI says below, we can extract a lot of good stuff from Germany, now that they are also enthused about us

 

[randombully]

It's rather we buy the German subs, the particular line is used by many navies, we can purchase Juan Carlos LHD design from Spaniards for the LHD/LPD program

As the resident German NRI says below, we can extract a lot of good stuff from Germany, now that they are also enthused about us

We will then be dependent of Germany for maintenence and parts supply of our subs, and being dependent of a hard-core leftist country whoes politicians hate us for being right wing is not a good idea, currently Germany is in bad state and will willingly help us, but once they recover they will go back to their usual antics.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

We will then be dependent of Germany for maintenence and parts supply of our subs, and being dependent of a hard-core leftist country whoes politicians hate us for being right wing is not a good idea, currently Germany is in bad state and will willingly help us, but once they recover they will go back to their usual antics.

Neither Germany or India are left or right wing states nor is friction between too is related to political leanings.

Germany is a NATO state whose antipathy towards India comes from a European worldview and is so in general.

Germany is essentially a US client state like Britain but stronger than Britain, a capitalist state, not certainly left except its post modernist woke politics. Going the random rhetorics printed in random news articles to actual national administration policies, India being a right wing state is as much weightful argument as US is being fourth Reich, China being fascist, bla bla, street teenage revolutionary nonsense.