HAL IJT 36 Sitara

[Azaad]

I thought HAL would have concentrated on HFTE 25 if anything, that would have nicely gelled with stretchable timeline HAL IJT.

HJT has been designed around the AL-55I . For them to go to the HTFE means redesigning the entire thing. As it is the entire program has been delayed by 20-26 yrs. Besides as per Saurav Jha in one of his IAH programs on DDR stated that we can expect the HTFE by 2027-28. Whether we'd actually get it by then is anyone's guess.

 

[Anants]

HJT has been designed around the AL-55I . For them to go to the HTFE means redesigning the entire thing. As it is the entire program has been delayed by 20-26 yrs. Besides as per Saurav Jha in one of his IAH programs on DDR stated that we can expect the HTFE by 2027-28. Whether we'd actually get it by then is anyone's guess.

Better redesign it. Anyway with several bandages and appendages(aka fences, tail redesign etc) they have been able to make airframe stable and perform basic trainer aircraft maneuvers. Let them redesign bit more to accommodate hfte 25. Anyway IJT is turning out to be more like sandbox - for practicing their skills.

 

[samsaptaka]

Awfully quiet....no updates on IJT's progress, another vapourware mnrega by HAL babus ?

 

[VictorDelta4]

New Livery. Lets Goooo

 

[VictorDelta4]

 

[Azaad]

New Livery. Lets Goooo
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Let me guess - HAL doesn't know when will the IJT get its FOC certification for it's still in development hell / trials. Since it has nothing positive to offer in this regard in this AeroIndia & in order to avoid inconvenient questions , they did what they just did , came up with a new livery .

Same story with the Rustom / Tapas / Archer NG or whatever new nomenclature they've assigned to that contraption now . Before inconvenient questions are asked , come up with new photographs & a brochure quietly with the press release in fine print reading - flight trials to begin before the end of this financial year.

Another joker in the pack is the indigenous RTA / MTA which along with the previous two samples have been around from probably the third or fourth Aero India show & have been a recurring theme ever since.

 

[VictorDelta4]

Let me guess - HAL doesn't know when will the IJT get its FOC certification for it's still in development hell / trials. Since it has nothing positive to offer in this regard in this AeroIndia & in order to avoid inconvenient questions , they did what they just did , came up with a new livery .

Could be the case, but with Hvtiaf's updates I would like to assume that the situation is a bit more hopeful than this.

 

[Azaad]

Could be the case, but with Hvtiaf's updates I would like to assume that the situation is a bit more hopeful than this.

The same HVT who very proudly announced in 2022 IIRC that stall & spin trials were concluded successfully which in his own words should now culminate in an FOC or certification by CEMILAC.

This was 2-3 years ago. It should still there on his Twitter T/L . At the end of the day we forget that he's a paid employee of HAL & acts as their brand ambassador at large.

 

[Azaad]

The same HVT who very proudly announced in 2022 IIRC that stall & spin trials were concluded successfully which in his own words should now culminate in an FOC or certification by CEMILAC.

This was 2-3 years ago. It should still there on his Twitter T/L . At the end of the day we forget that he's a paid employee of HAL & acts as their brand ambassador at large.

View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1888865337875316960

HAL taking a leaf out of ADE of Nirbhay / ITCM & Rustom / Tapas / Archer NG fame .

I hope people here realise what this means . Yessir , the Sitara / Yashas is still a couple of years from being certified.

Then comes the process of putting it up for CCS approval , formal tender / RFP , contract negotiations & final order.

We should be lucky if the IAF places an order on HAL by 2028 , a full 3 decades after the project was kicked off in 1997-98.

 

[aspdeepak]

Might be the longest of prototype to production timing of any aircraft in history....

 

[Hari Sud]

Might be the longest of prototype to production timing of any aircraft in history....

DRDO inefficiencies clearly visible here.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1888865337875316960

HAL taking a leaf out of ADE of Nirbhay / ITCM & Rustom / Tapas / Archer NG fame .

I hope people here realise what this means . Yessir , the Sitara / Yashas is still a couple of years from being certified.

Then comes the process of putting it up for CCS approval , formal tender / RFP , contract negotiations & final order.

We should be lucky if the IAF places an order on HAL by 2028 , a full 3 decades after the project was kicked off in 1997-98.

View: https://x.com/livefist/status/1892243140129776111

Finally.......

The IAF has asked HAL to write up the paperwork to lease 4 Yashas trainers for an in-service evaluation, after which the IAF could commit to a large number of these aircraft.

 

[johny_baba]

any info on which engine these IJT-36/HJT-36/Sitara/Yashas are or will be powered with?
good ol' Larzac or Al-55I ?
do they even have either of engines ready for induction as well as production for any future large order?

it's been so long since we even heard about the later engine AL-55I in Indian Service for even prototypes what's status of that entire deal?