Idiotic Musings from the West

[Numero]

Britards tried and got myannmar, afghanistan, pakistan, balochistan, India, cunts of hyderabad, etc more than 500 princely states.

Further fragmentation stopped by sardar vallabhai patel and his team plus indian military plus further consolidation of princely states into Bharat(still unfinished business).

India was a battleground for influence for CIA and KGB during cold war.

Britain kicked Mughal butt else India would've looked far more Islamised. Britain actually drew the border which united most of the small kingdoms. Obviously some went away. Those which went away is due to our internal religious & political issues which British exploited.
KGB did a fantastic job. Obviously they were defending their own assets but they defended India's integrity end of the day.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Britards tried and got myannmar, afghanistan, pakistan, balochistan, India, cunts of hyderabad, etc more than 500 princely states.

Further fragmentation stopped by sardar vallabhai patel and his team plus indian military plus further consolidation of princely states into Bharat(still unfinished business).

India was a battleground for influence for CIA and KGB during cold war.

Myanmar never was Part of India and never should be. At best it was a vassal of some imperial powers in India like Chola and that's it.
Most of Myanmar history is being independent and fiercely independent at that, having the balls and ability to stand up to mighty Ming and Yuan dynasties and win vs them in long protracted wars.

Most of Myanmar' recent history, as in before the brits showed up and for the 400-500 years before that, is making Thailand it's little bitch.

Thais still have children's scary bedtime stories about the Davao road and the eebeel Burmese coming in and making some good noodle soup outta the thai.

Myanmar has ideal near impenetrable border with India and completely opposite, completely fluid border geography with China.
It means, Myanmar makes ideal buffer state with China for India and india should always see Myanmar as ideal buddy to it's immediate east.
We gain nothing by eating Myanmar. We gain a lot by making Myanmar stand on it's own two feet besides us.

 

[Numero]

They were aware of the guy because he was visiting Cuban and Soviet embassies. Guy was monitored for a while but eventually let off the hook because the CIAwallahs thought very lowly of him and concluded that he was not suited to become a spy/handler at all because of a stubborn and complicated personality. Apparently, the KGB guys made the same conclusion. All in the report.



Or maybe the Murican agencies are just incompetent? Maybe it is not a good idea to hand out guns to every Tom, Dick and Harry?

Either way, why do the MAGAtards care about Kennedy now? Diversion from stock market bloodbath and a struggling economy? Might as well be the case that orange man was just bored, lol.

Deliberate. They can't be that naive. Be reminded that they haven't released all files for a reason.
Magatards or not, they're getting fucked from all sides. America is saturated. At this point they can only go down. Trump's ambition is legit if implemented correctly but it won't be easy. Who tf cares tho! For India he's 100 times better than anyone at this point. That's the only thing matters.

 

[crazywithmath]

Deliberate. They can't be that naive. Be reminded that they haven't released all files for a reason.

So basically, more conspiracies? I mean, that is what I said? That these files were a nothing burger?

Magatards or not, they're getting fucked from all sides. America is saturated. At this point they can only go down.

InshaGanesha, Bhaijan. Amen to this.

Trump's ambition is legit if implemented correctly but it won't be easy.

No, it is not.

Amerimutts cannot get low/mid tier manufacturing back and neither should they aim to do so.

Leaving WHO, WTO, climate pacts directly plays into china's hands.

Invading canada and Greenland is nothing but a w*t dream.

DOGE will never save triliions in govt spending.

A sovereign crypto reserve is nothing but a glorified Ponzi scheme.

And I can go on. Not one of these ideas makes any sense.

Who tf cares tho! For India he's 100 times better than anyone at this point. That's the only thing matters.

You say this but this forum would love it if a 'normie Republican' (one that would not threaten our china+1 dreams) like Rubio, DeSantis or Pompeo were to become the President of burgerland.

Heck, even the Indian gormint would like it, given how closely the normie Republicans (who held important portfolios back during Trump 1.0) collaborated with them.

 

[srev2004]

Deliberate. They can't be that naive. Be reminded that they haven't released all files for a reason.
Magatards or not, they're getting fucked from all sides. America is saturated. At this point they can only go down. Trump's ambition is legit if implemented correctly but it won't be easy. Who tf cares tho! For India he's 100 times better than anyone at this point. That's the only thing matters.

Isn’t it even more sensitive then. Falls into same category as Tibet. Easy access for China, mountains in the way for India

 

[darkindie]

Britain kicked Mughal butt else India would've looked far more Islamised. Britain actually drew the border which united most of the small kingdoms. Obviously some went away. Those which went away is due to our internal religious & political issues which British exploited.
KGB did a fantastic job. Obviously they were defending their own assets but they defended India's integrity end of the day.

Mughals were already castrated by marathas and sikhs. Brits kicked mughals to officially declare themselves as the ruler of the subcontinent.

Brits accelerated islamization of India by creating fault lines in sanatan dharm and other detrimental actions.

Reason being brits saw green as ideal and more cooperative tool which were okay be ruled over by brits(greens never collectively organized themselves to fight for independence) and do as the brits say, fight wars for the brits

This mentality still exists in the british elite to this day which explains why UK elites like green so much.

Princely kingdoms were still ruled by respective local kings, brits were the overlords so the borders in most cases were already drawn.

Brits created porkistan through jinnah to use it as a tool. Brits created borders through middle of communities to divide them.

Problem of being someone's asset is you are considered expendable and will be dropped at some point (lal bahadur shastri being case in point).

Myanmar never was Part of India and never should be. At best it was a vassal of some imperial powers in India like Chola and that's it.
Most of Myanmar history is being independent and fiercely independent at that, having the balls and ability to stand up to mighty Ming and Yuan dynasties and win vs them in long protracted wars.

Most of Myanmar' recent history, as in before the brits showed up and for the 400-500 years before that, is making Thailand it's little bitch.

Thais still have children's scary bedtime stories about the Davao road and the eebeel Burmese coming in and making some good noodle soup outta the thai.

Myanmar has ideal near impenetrable border with India and completely opposite, completely fluid border geography with China.
It means, Myanmar makes ideal buffer state with China for India and india should always see Myanmar as ideal buddy to it's immediate east.
We gain nothing by eating Myanmar. We gain a lot by making Myanmar stand on it's own two feet besides us.

Myannmar was a buffer state, but did it benefit us? No, it got used as a tool against us to create instability in our border states and we had to unwillingly interevene in that region.

Reason being myannmar is an artificial nation state. That region is a cluster of different tribes who have fought against each other thus making the boundaries fluid.

brits created myannmar border that cut right through the middle of those tribes dividing them in 2 and to this day we are dealing with border and tribe problems.

We are not thais. We have the resources to sort out the inter tribe problems by giving each tribe a state of their own in Bharat through negotiation and compromise instead of this drug fuelled bloodbath.

 

[Numero]

So basically, more conspiracies? I mean, that is what I said? That these files were a nothing burger?



InshaGanesha, Bhaijan. Amen to this.



No, it is not.

Amerimutts cannot get low/mid tier manufacturing back and neither should they aim to do so.

Leaving WHO, WTO, climate pacts directly plays into china's hands.

Invading canada and Greenland is nothing but a w*t dream.

DOGE will never save triliions in govt spending.

A sovereign crypto reserve is nothing but a glorified Ponzi scheme.

And I can go on. Not one of these ideas makes any sense.

You say this but this forum would love it if a 'normie Republican' (one that would not threaten our china+1 dreams) like Rubio, DeSantis or Pompeo were to become the President of burgerland.

Heck, even the Indian gormint would like it, given how closely the normie Republicans (who held important portfolios back during Trump 1.0) collaborated with them.

I was talking about manufacturing only. Playing with tarriffs or some tax exemption may do to a certain point or some govt funded schemes or blackmailing but you're right tho. Nobody will go in such a high cost labour market & ignore a big market like India. Everyone will look in a long run.
Beside that what's happening now is random crapola.
I'm happy as long as they keep these leftist loonies in check & stop their terror funding. Rest I don't care.

 

[Numero]

Mughals were already castrated by marathas and sikhs. Brits kicked mughals to officially declare themselves as the ruler of the subcontinent.

Brits accelerated islamization of India by creating fault lines in sanatan dharm and other detrimental actions.

Reason being brits saw green as ideal and more cooperative tool which were okay be ruled over by brits(greens never collectively organized themselves to fight for independence) and do as the brits say, fight wars for the brits

This mentality still exists in the british elite to this day which explains why UK elites like green so much.

Princely kingdoms were still ruled by respective local kings, brits were the overlords so the borders in most cases were already drawn.

Brits created porkistan through jinnah to use it as a tool. Brits created borders through middle of communities to divide them.

Problem of being someone's asset is you are considered expendable and will be dropped at some point (lal bahadur shastri being case in point).

Myannmar was a buffer state, but did it benefit us? No, it got used as a tool against us to create instability in our border states and we had to unwillingly interevene in that region.

Reason being myannmar is an artificial nation state. That region is a cluster of different tribes who have fought against each other thus making the boundaries fluid.

brits created myannmar border that cut right through the middle of those tribes dividing them in 2 and to this day we are dealing with border and tribe problems.

We are not thais. We have the resources to sort out the inter tribe problems by giving each tribe a state of their own in Bharat through negotiation and compromise instead of this drug fuelled bloodbath.

If not Mughals, some others would've come. Maybe from the inside or outside. That's how it went on back then. India's foundation as a country came from British only & they implemented the constitution, drew the border & forced rule of law. Yes, they exploited, divided, islamised, did whatever was needed to stay & siphon off. I ain't gonna deny that but it would've been way worse if Mughals weren't kicked out by the East India company.
I believe the actual issue what we face today is due to the faulty partition. British gave us misery but gave us a headstart while leaving. Congress fucked it up again with a failed policies that led to a failed population transfer.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Mughals were already castrated by marathas and sikhs. Brits kicked mughals to officially declare themselves as the ruler of the subcontinent.

Brits accelerated islamization of India by creating fault lines in sanatan dharm and other detrimental actions.

Reason being brits saw green as ideal and more cooperative tool which were okay be ruled over by brits(greens never collectively organized themselves to fight for independence) and do as the brits say, fight wars for the brits

This mentality still exists in the british elite to this day which explains why UK elites like green so much.

Princely kingdoms were still ruled by respective local kings, brits were the overlords so the borders in most cases were already drawn.

Brits created porkistan through jinnah to use it as a tool. Brits created borders through middle of communities to divide them.

Problem of being someone's asset is you are considered expendable and will be dropped at some point (lal bahadur shastri being case in point).

Myannmar was a buffer state, but did it benefit us? No, it got used as a tool against us to create instability in our border states and we had to unwillingly interevene in that region.

Reason being myannmar is an artificial nation state. That region is a cluster of different tribes who have fought against each other thus making the boundaries fluid.

brits created myannmar border that cut right through the middle of those tribes dividing them in 2 and to this day we are dealing with border and tribe problems.

We are not thais. We have the resources to sort out the inter tribe problems by giving each tribe a state of their own in Bharat through negotiation and compromise instead of this drug fuelled bloodbath.

This is partial picture.
Real picture is, what is Indo-Myanmar border is ALWAYS the border of Manipur+Kamrup with Pye/Bagan city states into the Mon and Bamar kingdoms and then Rahine kingdom.

The border of the Myanmar entities for last 1500 years has always fluctuated in the arakan yoma transition zone, where they controlled pretty much all of the Irrawady valley and plains, including the impenetrable northern jungle lands in the bowl that is the huge central Myanmar plains.

Its eastern front melts into Chinese dehaat of Yunnan region-Laos region/Northern Thailand region that are lush cliffs, hills and broken lands rather than impenetrable mountains, its basically what Khyber region would be if it had more greenery and rainfall and typically has been the entrypot for people migrating or invading Myanmar via land.

Our frontier with Myanmar is fairly secure and stable and beyond minor adjustment here and there, we shouldnt lose the plot that Myanmar as a whole, is an excellent buffer state to have, provided we have the economic and political means to exert influence in the border region.

I am not keen for this short-sighted border adjustment idea in name of some unifification project for Kukis. They are playing 4-d chess here, where i think they have realized that they have better shot unifying under India and THEN agitating for full freedom from whole of India than trying to get freedom from Myanmar ever or from India while half of them remain as slaves in Myanmar.

Kukis being broken across border is not my problem- follow rules,go across border and see your relatives that way, the end.

I see no benefit in sticking our neck in Myanmar's business to benefit Kukis in the first place and i am far more inclined to help out the buddhist Chakma bros in Chittagong hilltracts than Christian kukis in myanmar.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

If not Mughals, some others would've come. Maybe from the inside or outside. That's how it went on back then. India's foundation as a country came from British only & they implemented the constitution, drew the border & forced rule of law. Yes, they exploited, divided, islamised, did whatever was needed to stay & siphon off. I ain't gonna deny that but it would've been way worse if Mughals weren't kicked out by the East India company.
I believe the actual issue what we face today is due to the faulty partition. British gave us misery but gave us a headstart while leaving. Congress fucked it up again with a failed policies that led to a failed population transfer.

The only thing i thank the British for,is that thanks to the British, local fault-lines stopped being regional war-conflict zones in pre-British India and the cost to pay was sectarian polarization and creation of Pakistan+bangladesh.
I am not guru enough to know if the price is worth it, but the truth is, Britain didnt create the IDENTITY concept of India as a nation-state. This IDENTITY-concept exists since the days of Chanakya. Brits gave us this identity-concept as reality for first time in centuries WHILE extinguishing, for first time in recorded history, regional warfare in the subcontinent.
Now, we dont have senario where people from Rajasthan-UP-Madhya Pradesh wanna whack people from Bihar-bengal like for 1000s of years or where Kannadigas wanna go fight war with Tamils or vice versa.

So India does owe its national identity solidifying to the British, but as a side-product of fighting and winning against the worst oppressor in Indian history than as a thing fostered by the British themselves.

 

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