Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Spitfire IX]

How the contract is negotiated. If we want domestic production then 2-3 years to set up manufacturing plant and then on engine deliveries production starts. So probably by 4-5years from now

Thanks for that estimate but what I meant was just buying some - either new from Dassault or used from the French Air Force. The first duty of a country's government is defence of the state. Given IAF's parlous position re: fighters, GOI should acquire more Rafale fighters ASAP in my opinion. Allowing the fighter position to become so bad is dereliction of duty by the current government and by previous ones IMO.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Thanks for that estimate but what I meant was just buying some - either new from Dassault or used from the French Air Force. The first duty of a country's government is defence of the state. Given IAF's parlous position re: fighters, GOI should acquire more fighters ASAP in my opinion. Allowing the fighter position to become so bad is dereliction of duty by the current government and previous ones IMO.

Even though our squadron strength as depleted we are not going to war to get used French rafales.. if war was looking govt/IAF wouldn’t been sitting on squadron depleted day by day. Also French rafales are old F3 and come with interoperability issues as Indian rafales are customised as per our own network centric warfare. Even if we sign contract now that will be 3 years to deliver first plane ( optimistic estimates based on bypassing the backlog order book)

 

[randombully]

My question was simple. If India placed an order for Rafale today, when would it start receiving Rafale? 2031? 2030? 2029? 2028? 2027?

Not before 2027.
It should be 2027-2030 for delivery all 26 F4+ standard rafale M.

 

[Spitfire IX]

Even though our squadron strength as depleted we are not going to war to get used French rafales.. if war was looking govt/IAF wouldn’t been sitting on squadron depleted day by day. Also French rafales are old F3 and come with interoperability issues as Indian rafales are customised as per our own network centric warfare. Even if we sign contract now that will be 3 years to deliver first plane ( optimistic estimates based on bypassing the backlog order book)

Fair enough.

Successive Indian governments have stuffed the IAF. They were supposed to plan and maintain an adequate level of fighter capability but failed so to do.

PS So it's all down to Mk1A to mitigate the damage for the next few years, isn't it?

 

[randombully]

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found this on elon flask's platform

View: https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1901615587727757356#m

They are trying to do both.
With that JV for amca's engine that they are going for.
Also that same future amca's engine *IF* built will be used to upgrade tejasmk2's during midlife upgrades in 2040+.
In terms of indigeneous capability development even with the import of aircrafts we are still on a good path *EXCEPT* jet engines .

I just hope they continue the Kaveri program so that future Kaveri 2.0 can be used to replace f404 for tejas mk1a's in 2040+.