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How Come Iran’s Air Defences Succumbed on 26 Oct 2024? A Brief Analysis – CENJOWS

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You said iran had integrated ADS why don't you give me sauce

" we only have Kash and aksh ng "
Zu23,l 70, shilka, soft kill system<igla < samar ADS<osa AK< pechora<spyder<akash<mrsam<s400
"Indian equivalent to bavar 373 "
S 400 and kusha incoming
Numerous sam operating doesn't equal to better air situation picture
Info flows through akashteer and iaccs in both ways
Iran is ultimate cuck everyone strike them

Iran is not cuck.. it will be foolish to equate them with Paxtan in same vein.. they hv their own indigenous homegrown capabilities even while being heavily sanctioned.

While paxtan has only vintage and ancient Chinese nd NoKo derivatives of ballistic missiles which they test once in a while to test nd validate parameters.

Iran has more scientific foundation with high literacy rate nd u will be surprised to know that most of it's citizens are turning atheist now only issue being they are currently ruled by mullah regime which is mostly unpopular.

Don't forget their missile supplied to Houthi hit isreali airport recently even though isreal has less area to defend nd prolly has the most effective layered ADS nd houthi also targeted USN aircraft carrier resulting in loss of a f18 due to evasive maneuvering.

Houthi even targeted nd got dangerously close to hitting a F35 with Iran supplied SAM.

One example of iran layered integrated ADS it's a comprehensive long read on Iran's ADS capabilities.

4. IRAN’S AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM - Issuu

Over the past two decades Iran has managed to create a fairly sophisticated Integrated Air Defence System (IADS) consisting of a network of mobile and fixed radar stations, command and control and communications (C3) nodes, and overlapping layers of anti-aircraft guns and surfaceto-air missile...

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For hitting iran even with it's layered ADS the credit needs to be given to isreali.. they have mastered the art of sead nd dead..

 

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Iran is not cuck.. it will be foolish to equate them with Paxtan in same vein.. they hv their own indigenous homegrown capabilities even while being heavily sanctioned.

While paxtan has only vintage and ancient Chinese nd NoKo derivatives of ballistic missiles which they test once in a while to test nd validate parameters.

Iran has more scientific foundation with high literacy rate nd u will be surprised to know that most of it's citizens are turning atheist now only issue being they are currently ruled by mullah regime which is mostly unpopular.

Don't forget their missile supplied to Houthi hit isreali airport recently even though isreal has less area to defend nd prolly has the most effective layered ADS nd houthi also targeted USN aircraft carrier resulting in loss of a f18 due to evasive maneuvering.

Houthi even targeted nd got dangerously close to hitting a F35 with Iran supplied SAM.

One example of iran layered integrated ADS it's a comprehensive long read on Iran's ADS capabilities.

4. IRAN’S AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM - Issuu

Over the past two decades Iran has managed to create a fairly sophisticated Integrated Air Defence System (IADS) consisting of a network of mobile and fixed radar stations, command and control and communications (C3) nodes, and overlapping layers of anti-aircraft guns and surfaceto-air missile...

issuu.com

For hitting iran even with it's layered ADS the credit needs to be given to isreali.. they have mastered the art of sead nd dead..

I agree with most iran is quite capable and thier missile tech is good but iran is cuck same as pakistan israeli hits top irgc genrals in syriya without provocation iran retaliation iran couldn't do much damage credit goes to usa and allies again israeli retaliation 26 oct strikes again israel Targeted iranian advisers and commanders on ground iran reaction nothing there are multiple instances

 

[redpanda]

Any one heard of this new news ?
Asli teja kaun hai ? Mark kidhar hai.

what is this new drama? Of india and Japan development and Jv of sixth gen fighter?
Many porki channels are shitting their pants. About it .

I don’t know what we should support. Naye naye dhol baj rahe hai . Abhi f35 vs su57 vs lca hua nahi tha ab ye naya drama. F xx
Ab hum kis topic pe lade yaha forum per?

All of sudden so many fighter options and none at the same time .

Oh that's GCAP thing. I do not think India will join it. It supposed to get into production around the same time around AMCA. Plus you need a throw a lot of money to join such programme, which I would assume the government would prefer spending on AMCA and other projects..But hey who knows GoI might join it, if they feel like opening up their purse for foreign Collab jet.

Global Combat Air Programme - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Kontakt5]

Americans use F-35 for aggressor squadrons even for Russians, forget the Chinese.

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The F-35 Aggressors are for China, they are early production models and have slightly worse RAM than production models. The camo scheme is near identical to a early camo scheme seen on the J-20.


You can see the details of the lighter area's lining up perfectly on both aircraft.

On the contrary, the Americans use F/A-18 and F-16 in Su-57 camo pattern for aggressors as the Russians.




This is how you know the American military thinks the Russian fighter is a joke. India pulling out of FGFA was the right decision. Going back to rebuy the Su-57 as we are in a desperate situation will just make India look pathetic.

 

[liberalredditor]

what @ShiroBarks bhai said on twitter hit me hard too, how will sign a deal on which we came back

haan un logon ne dhokha diya tha, par firse hume wahan jana padega jinhe humne chhoda tha

 

[liberalredditor]

lohe ko loha katta hai,

thats why play the unexpected card

buy j35 to counter porki j35

 

[Ajatshatru]

lohe ko loha katta hai,

thats why play the unexpected card

buy j35 to counter porki j35

China will happily sell J-35 to India, they need the money, and J-35 is just more of the same high-quality junk they’ve been peddling to Pakistan all along.

 

[liberalredditor]

China will happily sell J-35 to India, they need the money, and J-35 is just more of the same high-quality junk they’ve been peddling to Pakistan all along.

bhai junk to nahi bolunga, we better not underestimate chini af and navy, army to unki gendu hai
but they have nearly 5-6x researchers and even more papers published, you can imagine their academia level, whereas our people are busy in how to crack tcs codeninja in 5 months

their ad is shit, but j20 and j35 is good, they took time, we need to prepare now, rafale f4 needs to come asap, spectra has the capability to deter their aircrafts in war mode

f35 - burger shit, su57 - invite caatsa and mass layoffs because of trumpwa

 

[Ajatshatru]

bhai junk to nahi bolunga, we better not underestimate chini af and navy, army to unki gendu hai
but they have nearly 5-6x researchers and even more papers published, you can imagine their academia level, whereas our people are busy in how to crack tcs codeninja in 5 months

their ad is shit, but j20 and j35 is good, they took time, we need to prepare now, rafale f4 needs to come asap, spectra has the capability to deter their aircrafts in war mode

f35 - burger shit, su57 - invite caatsa and mass layoffs because of trumpwa

India just needs to stay focused on the Tejas program by ramping up production, along with continued development of the Ghatak UCAV and AMCA. Chinese are excellent at PR, that’s why some people mistakenly believe J-35 is on par with F-35. In reality, it’s not even close. I’ve seen videos of Chinese tanks falling apart during war exercises, while Indian tanks performed exceptionally well in the same exercise. if you haven’t seen it i will share it.

 

[Drwho]

Oh that's GCAP thing. I do not think India will join it. It supposed to get into production around the same time around AMCA. Plus you need a throw a lot of money to join such programme, which I would assume the government would prefer spending on AMCA and other projects..But hey who knows GoI might join it, if they feel like opening up their purse for foreign Collab jet.

Global Combat Air Programme - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Why are Paki and chini so scared of it ? Is it some revolutionary fighter ?
I have almost no knowledge about it yes read something about Mitsubishi fighter jet program many years ago. But chino ki fat jati hai Japan ka naam sun ker.
They know the capabilities of Japanese.
Oh btw Japan have some f35 but they are not buying this safes hathi anymore.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Guys stop going crazy about Stealth jets before you actually ever SEE a stealth jet do penetration missions against at least a peer competitor or near-peer competitor ADS system.
Like wot de foc - what has stealth actually done in terms of actual war performance to merit such panic ? Heck, Israel *HAS* F35s and they have not announced a SINGLE deep strike mission in Iran with their stealth jet and Iran has far shittier ADS on paper than Pakis.

Yes,stealth gives us more tools to play with, but our ADS is no joke and if nobody has used stealth against anyone with a mediocre ADS like Iran, why are we going 'omg omg' with Stealth ??

We need numbers first and foremost. Pump up the Squadron numbers to 40 or so with tejas 1&2 +Su-30 combos and only then worry about stealth as it comes online for us.

I am not exactly sure WTF we need stealth jets so bad for - we are not going to bomb Chengdu by air lanched in next 50 years, if ever. At best it will be blow up Chinese military infrastructure 500km-1000km inside tibet. For that, we again launch from over our air space or Bhutan air space- which is our air space in combat scenario.
We are far more interested in busting stealth and neutralizing Stealth jets - which is not impossible on paper- than we are in getting stealth, fyi.

people who often go RCS signature crap forget, this isnt magic - you dont become invisible in all radio frequency spectrum. If you go stealth mode in VLF, you may just become even more visible in ELF because guess what - the funky shape you do actually doesnt deflect away or absorb the ELF frequencies. Sure, ELF is used for low resolution weather radar and stealth jets are invisible to active combat radar frequences on ground or air at VLF, but i am sure there are people much smarter than me trying to figure out or have already figured out how to make this simple EM frequency reality translate into spotting stealth jets.

 

[Knowitall]

The F-35 Aggressors are for China, they are early production models and have slightly worse RAM than production models. The camo scheme is near identical to a early camo scheme seen on the J-20.
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You can see the details of the lighter area's lining up perfectly on both aircraft.

On the contrary, the Americans use F/A-18 and F-16 in Su-57 camo pattern for aggressors as the Russians.
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This is how you know the American military thinks the Russian fighter is a joke. India pulling out of FGFA was the right decision. Going back to rebuy the Su-57 as we are in a desperate situation will just make India look pathetic.

Not defending russi maal here not a fan of itself but why lie openly on the forum?

https://en.topwar.ru/174968-istrebiteli-f-35-jeskadrili-agressorov-raskrasjat-pod-rossijskie-su-57.html

F-35 squadrons have been used to simulate both su -57 and j-20 with the latter being the more recent addition as Unkil prepares itself for its shift towards Asia aka china.

Ruskis are busy in the war and are not really the mass producing nation it once was under the soviet union whereas china has pushed an upward of 200 J-20s hence the shift in delegation.

I mean ruski equipment is no gold plated western quality maal but there is a point to be made against the Americans who have lost 2 F-18s close to 20 reapers and almost lost an F-35 against a war town failed faction Yemen called the Houthi’s.

The Americans post Vietnam war have not faced a single country with a complex layered ADZ anywhere including the ME and we all know the enormous casualties USAF faced in Vietnam.

For a lightly funded soviet era airforce the VKS has taken down around 160 fighter jets and 60 rotary aircrafts in Ukraine both on the ground and air while facing the most complex ADZ filled with s-300 in the entirety of Europe. Pretty decent for a legacy airforce if you ask me.

Compared to uber American f-16s who have been shat upon by both India and Russia.