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Guys stop going crazy about Stealth jets before you actually ever SEE a stealth jet do penetration missions against at least a peer competitor or near-peer competitor ADS system.
Like wot de foc - what has stealth actually done in terms of actual war performance to merit such panic ? Heck, Israel *HAS* F35s and they have not announced a SINGLE deep strike mission in Iran with their stealth jet and Iran has far shittier ADS on paper than Pakis.

Yes,stealth gives us more tools to play with, but our ADS is no joke and if nobody has used stealth against anyone with a mediocre ADS like Iran, why are we going 'omg omg' with Stealth ??

We need numbers first and foremost. Pump up the Squadron numbers to 40 or so with tejas 1&2 +Su-30 combos and only then worry about stealth as it comes online for us.

I am not exactly sure WTF we need stealth jets so bad for - we are not going to bomb Chengdu by air lanched Brahmos in next 50 years, if ever. At best it will be blow up Chinese military infrastructure 500km-1000km inside tibet. For that, we again launch from over our air space or Bhutan air space- which is our air space in combat scenario.
We are far more interested in busting stealth and neutralizing Stealth jets - which is not impossible on paper- than we are in getting stealth, fyi.

people who often go RCS signature crap forget, this isnt magic - you dont become invisible in all radio frequency spectrum. If you go stealth mode in VLF, you may just become even more visible in ELF because guess what - the funky shape you do actually doesnt deflect away or absorb the ELF frequencies. Sure, ELF is used for low resolution weather radar and stealth jets are invisible to active combat radar frequences on ground or air at VLF, but i am sure there are people much smarter than me trying to figure out or have already figured out how to make this simple EM frequency reality translate into spotting stealth jets.
No one is getting crazy on their stealth aspect

Its the sead/dead and advanced bvr capability given to them by their sensor suite and lrus
 
The F-35 Aggressors are for China, they are early production models and have slightly worse RAM than production models. The camo scheme is near identical to a early camo scheme seen on the J-20.
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You can see the details of the lighter area's lining up perfectly on both aircraft.

On the contrary, the Americans use F/A-18 and F-16 in Su-57 camo pattern for aggressors as the Russians.
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This is how you know the American military thinks the Russian fighter is a joke. India pulling out of FGFA was the right decision. Going back to rebuy the Su-57 as we are in a desperate situation will just make India look pathetic.
"On the contrary, the Americans use F/A-18 and F-16 in Su-57 camo pattern for aggressors as the Russians.
This is how you know the American military thinks the Russian fighter is a joke."

hmmm....so making russian su 57 camo pattern on american aircrafts f18 etc means american thinks russian su 57 is joke.....dude what kind of logic is this?? 😂😝
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk03RJCTWq8
(I can't find the original source, but M7 made a video on it)
About J20, it's a decent LO Air superiority fighter, IG.
Size is Inconsequential if you can mask your radar return to the required extent, so is manoeuvrability.
In the case of a J20, it was designed to be a long-range sniper, and that's what it is. (Lack of Gun goes to show what Chinkis had in mind when creating it)
Canards of J20 make such an angle that it reflects the radar waves away, its belly is smoother than F-35, one could call its belly underwhelming compared to F-35.
Engines' nozzles are serrated to minimise radar returns, Canards are serrated(IIRC, not sure about canard serration)
Modern fighters can control the angle of their canards to reduce radar return
Though not as stealthy, it has the same order of RCS return as the F-35 at least in frontal aspect and has a larger(about 1800+ T/R module antenna) 3rd gen AESA(claimed by the Chinese) and should have a decent EW capability(there is no way that huge ass plane got no Integrated(Internal) EW suite/Active stealth capability

Also note that the median RCS is without RAM and all around, and not just frontal.
And the Newer J20 are coming in with WS-15 engines, can carry 6 PL-15 in IWB( Don't remember if it's with newer PL-15E missiles, if no, then this could go higher to 8 and goated side bay capable of carrying a total of 2WVR missiles

bro this franch youtuber makes video that pakistan killed some rafales by showing that same rafale wing pics, which pakistani show in first day of operation sindoor. so he makes video on propaganda news also. why we believe in his story of f18 vs chinese destroyer story?? he easily fall in pakistan propaganda. Still he didnt make video on indian air force claim of no aircraft got down by pakistani. he only make one side of story of pakistani air force. these guys can easily manupulate.
 
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