Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[FalconSlayers]

The indigenously developed Surya VHF radar can detect stealth/VLO aircraft like the USA's F35 & China's J-35A from distances up to 400 km by operating in the VHF band (30 to 300 MHz), which is less affected by stealth designs. Mounted on TATRA vehicles, it is highly mobile and can be deployed across diverse terrains. Its long-range detection offers early warning capabilities, allowing India to track stealth fighters soon after takeoff. The system enhances India’s air surveillance network and represents a major step toward self-reliance in advanced defense technology.

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It is not "indigenous". It is license made Belarusian/Russian Vostok 3D.
Edit: Yes, 70% of it is localised, but i am not sure if this is their own R&D or licensed modification.

 

[redpanda]

It is not "indigenous". It is license made Belarusian Vostok 3D.
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I see thanks for the information. Wasn't DRDO developing one? Or it was something else?

 

[DumbPilot]

Indeed true that a limited purchase of foreign 5th gen FA would give MoD a false sense of security that might delay AMCA. I mean look at how AMCA funding has been upheld till recently.

Without a 5th gen fighter, there will be a hunger in the Indian establishment to see timely completion of AMCA. Especially if the Pakis get J35.

nice to see you again after a long while!

 

[shade2]

Nobody is talking about the fact that, despite a shortage of squadrons, Indian Air Force conducted strikes across the entire length and breadth of Pakistan, targeting its most heavily protected assets, airbases, radar installations, and even a nuclear storage facility in Kirana Hills.

Delet this before a baboo reads it and recommends Mudi to not buy more Rafales for the air force, because we're good enough to fuck pakistan as it is

OT but last 2 pages are some guy doing dalali for su-57

F-35, su-57, nibbas doing unpaid dalali for shit that the Marshalls, Babooze and politicians don't even consider for purchase

 

[liberalredditor]

It is not "indigenous". It is license made Belarusian Vostok 3D.
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noooooo, nahiiiii, drdo cannot make a vhf radar??? why, kyuuu????? what happened to lrde? what happened to atmanirbharta???

@shade2 babulog ko pata tha ki pork ke liye kafi hai isliye abhi tak tejas mk2 nahi aaya

 

[FalconSlayers]

I see thanks for the information. Wasn't DRDO developing one? Or it was something else?

noooooo, nahiiiii, drdo cannot make a vhf radar??? why, kyuuu????? what happened to lrde? what happened to atmanirbharta???

@shade2 babulog ko pata tha ki pork ke liye kafi hai isliye abhi tak tejas mk2 nahi aaya

They too have their own, BEL has rolled it out already. Will check how similar/different they are.

View: https://x.com/tataadvanced/status/1891452621312970893

 

[ezsasa]

It is not "indigenous". It is license made Belarusian Vostok 3D.
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are there any news reports that this belarusian company has licensed their design to adani or alpha defence?

 

[FalconSlayers]

are there any news reports that this belarusian company has licensed their design to adani or alpha defence?

I don't know. Not much info about the company, the product or it's origins. They have used it's image as well as schematics. Although I think it is based on Vostok-3D if not a licensed screw driver.



And let's be honest, ADTL and Adanis don't have the capability to produce such radars, when even giants like L&T are Elbit radars.

 

[shade2]

I don't know. Not much info about the company, the product or it's origins. They have used it's image as well as schematics. Although I think it is based on Vostok-3D if not a licensed screw driver.
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And let's be honest, ADTL and Adanis don't have the capability to produce such radars, when even giants like L&T are Elbit radars.

Iss ye yaad aaya Kalyani's cannon designs are apparently licensed from some no-name foreign company, but ofc they've done their own development on those too.

I don't have a problem with this as long as the dhandho/DPSU
>indeginize the supply chain and not just
>develop on the licensed design to make better versions

You have to start somewhere

 

[Doreamon]

noooooo, nahiiiii, drdo cannot make a vhf radar??? why, kyuuu????? what happened to lrde? what happened to atmanirbharta???

@shade2 babulog ko pata tha ki pork ke liye kafi hai isliye abhi tak tejas mk2 nahi aaya

Drdo vhf radar . It was shown in recent aero india.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Delet this before a baboo reads it and recommends Mudi to not buy more Rafales for the air force, because we're good enough to fuck pakistan as it is

OT but last 2 pages are some guy doing dalali for su-57

F-35, su-57, nibbas doing unpaid dalali for shit that the Marshalls, Babooze and politicians don't even consider for purchase

I think India should order 126 Rafales under the MRFA program, with the condition that they be equipped with Indian-made UTTAM radars and mission computers. Alongside the induction of 183 Tejas MK1A and 210 Tejas MK2 aircraft, this would enable the Indian Air Force to maintain a 45-squadron strength over the next five years and beyond, even with the phased retirement of the Mirage-2000 and Jaguar fleets.

 

[Tumba]

It is not "indigenous". It is license made Belarusian/Russian Vostok 3D.
Edit: Yes, 70% of it is localised, but i am not sure if this is their own R&D or licensed modification.
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VHF Radars can track but cant lock thats the biggest drawback and 400 kms is not correct …

Only if it can lock one can target an aircraft and even sending fighters to that area still be dangerous as they can also find it difficult to lock with their radars

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Yes brahmos is one such glaring gap. There are others too.

However you are making the same mistake Pakis do when they believe that they can destroy Indian dams.

Dams are really difficult to destroy. You would need weeks long bombing with bunker busters or a tactical nuke.

Even then it would probably be repaired. Yes we can destrupt power generation.

The dam on Brahmaputra is a lemon anyways as long as we can build a dam downstream. Brahmaputra’s catchment area is mostly in India and, There is nowhere the water can be diverted to either.

Read it carefully. I am not talking of destroying a dam. Especially one that is upstream of us and will kill millions of Indians in floodwash. I am talking about blowing up it's power distribution. Which is easy to do in montane terrain.

 

[aim120]

Didn't India get the Nebo M for the S400. On paper this has atleast 2x to 5x range compared to Vostok 3D.

 

[shitsandgiggles]

Posting it here as well since its air force edit mainly.


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[Gyyaan]

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Ye kya hai ab?
@Anonymous Bharata @Corvus Splendens

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

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Ye kya hai ab?
@Anonymous Bharata @Corvus Splendens

I can't comment

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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Ye kya hai ab?
@Anonymous Bharata @Corvus Splendens

AMCA looks like.

 

[Gyyaan]

AMCA looks like.

3-4 years+ for 1st proto from now?
2035 timeline makes sense now.
I thought it was sanctioned in 2024.
So 1st proto by 2028
FF by 2029 and 4-5 years of testing would be the timeline.
But after this guess 2035 it is.

 

[Neil (नील/Нил)]

I suspect that Japan and India co-developing a 6G fighter is wishful thinking. Japan is already part of GCAP. With GCAP Japan has been clear that it does not want partners joining who are likely to compromise the project holding to schedule. Japan plans to replace its F2 fighters mid-2030's with a 6G aircraft.

Why would Japan have any interest in a joint venture to develop a 6G fighter with India, known for massive delays in its fighter development projects?

I am a little curious, Why did you quote my post? That post of mine had nothing to what you are discussing. I was talking about the troubled status of the current MRFA tender. You can read back my previous posts about it.

But since the English gentleman has roped me in, I think I have the right to say a few words of my own, don't I? (Concerning India potentially co-developing a Sixth-Generation aircraft with other countries).
From what we know at the moment is that various countries are working on development of 6th-Generation aircraft with the US leading the race with its NGAD programme with China not far behind with its J-36. Russia is also reportedly actively working on its own 6th-generation fighter program though I do not know anything about it, i.e it's current status.
Now we have two Sixth-Generation aircraft programmes: FCAS & GCAP.
GCAP involves the UK, Japan and Italy while on the other hand, the FCAS programme involves France, Germany, and Spain.
One thing that I have noticed is that both FCAS & GCAP have at least one country (partner) who is self - independent in the design and development of jet engines. We all know that a jet engine is a very crucial part of any aircraft.

Now coming back to the serious question
"Should India jointly develop a 6th Generation aircraft with another country?"
Here is my personal take - I do not think that at the moment, India should join either programs. Why? Let me explain.
Well we have a great old saying "too many cooks spoil the broth".
-We are well versed with why we didn't choose the Eurofighter Typhoon and instead went ahead with the French Rafale.
-India walked away from the FGFA program where we were originally supposed to jointly develop an Indian version of the PAKFA (Now called the Su-57).
Both the GCAP & FCAS programmes are slated to deploy their 6th Generation planes in operational service only after 2035-2040 & beyond. At the moment, we are actively working on the R&D for the 5th generation AMCA.

Our Indian economy is growing at a very good pace. More economic growth => Bigger Economy Size => More money => More money to pump into R&D projects in sectors like civil development, engineering, medical and healthcare services, etc. So obviously AMCA will receive more funding in the coming years to follow which will help expedite it's development timeline.

I am sure that by the time we make the AMCA, we would have concurrently developed (we are probably developing them at the moment) many of the technologies required for a Sixth Generation aircraft, we could call it AHCA (Advanced Heavy Combat Aircraft). I am sure that ADA and DRDO have already thought that after the AMCA MK-1 & MK-2 start rolling out of the factories, we will be in need of a next generation air combat platform which will surpass the AMCA. I lay all my hopes on our scientists.

This is all I can say at the moment. You are free to agree or disagree with me..