Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (19 Viewers)

[FalconSlayers]

> AL-41 for Sukhoi Upgrade program. Russia offered it four months ago.
> HAL-Rosoboronexport to sign work share contract.
> 78% indigenous content.
> AESA radar, Glass cockpit, Avionics, Mission computers.
> Talks with Russia on new Air to Air missiles.

As India looks for a massive upgrade of Sukhoi jets, Rajnath meets Russian counterpart - The Tribune

It was one of the most important recent meetings between the leaders of the two nations, being held against the backdrop of Operation Sindoor and the consequent necessity of augmenting defence production.

www.tribuneindia.com

 

[redpanda]

> AL-41 for Sukhoi Upgrade program. Russia offered it four months ago.
> HAL-Rosoboronexport to sign work share contract.
> 78% indigenous content.
> AESA radar, Glass cockpit, Avionics, Mission computers.
> Talks with Russia on new Air to Air missiles.

As India looks for a massive upgrade of Sukhoi jets, Rajnath meets Russian counterpart - The Tribune

It was one of the most important recent meetings between the leaders of the two nations, being held against the backdrop of Operation Sindoor and the consequent necessity of augmenting defence production.

www.tribuneindia.com

They are offering local assembly of AL-41? Honestly if so we should ask them for AL-51 too. We can always indigenise the components.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1937698694998212832?s=19

 

[redpanda]

I don't understand why the government never bother giving a small tender to private companies for stuff like trainer jets, rescue helicopter, small order combat helis, etc. If such projects had been given to private players they would have developed skills and infrastructure for even building something similar to Tejas by now.

 

[shade2]

> AL-41 for Sukhoi Upgrade program. Russia offered it four months ago.
> HAL-Rosoboronexport to sign work share contract.
> 78% indigenous content.
> AESA radar, Glass cockpit, Avionics, Mission computers.
> Talks with Russia on new Air to Air missiles.

As India looks for a massive upgrade of Sukhoi jets, Rajnath meets Russian counterpart - The Tribune

It was one of the most important recent meetings between the leaders of the two nations, being held against the backdrop of Operation Sindoor and the consequent necessity of augmenting defence production.

www.tribuneindia.com

They are offering local assembly of AL-41? Honestly if so we should ask them for AL-51 too. We can always indigenise the components.

Guys, can we use the Byelka( su57 ) or Zhuk AESA( mig35 ) radars on our MKIs?
Just as a fallback assuming Uttam for MKI is delayed?

Any other aesa radars we can buy from 5 places and integrate?

imo main things are
>2-3 sqdrns Rafale purchase
>Get super sukhoi upgrade done quickly
>Get AMCA in service quickly.


mk2 mwf ka dekha jayega i have no hopes

 

[redpanda]

Guys, can we use the Byelka( su57 ) or Zhuk AESA( mig35 ) radars on our MKIs?
Just as a fallback assuming Uttam for MKI is delayed?

Any other aesa radars we can buy from 5 places and integrate?

imo main things are
>2-3 sqdrns Rafale purchase
>Get super sukhoi upgrade done quickly
>Get AMCA in service quickly.


mk2 mwf ka dekha jayega i have no hopes

Uttam for MKI i.e Virupaksha radar won't get delayed tbh. So no need to worry on that front. For mk2 mwf we can always go with french engines, yea it will delay it by 1-2 years but hey that's better than nothing.

 

[liberalredditor]

They are offering local assembly of AL-41? Honestly if so we should ask them for AL-51 too. We can always indigenise the components.

leave aside al51 for a sec coz 200% sure they wont give away their crown jewel, but if we could get al41 manufacturing with negotiations for more and more indigenous content, we could have integrated it on our super sukhoi then they would have become next level, we could also use al41 in future on larger single engine interation of mwf mk2

al41 tot would have given so much know how and know why, but babooz are retards, this was the right time, vodkaland is in dire need of money, just slap 500 million usd on their cheeks and get it

 

[liberalredditor]

Uttam for MKI i.e Virupaksha radar won't get delayed tbh. So no need to worry on that front. For mk2 mwf we can always go with french engines, yea it will delay it by 1-2 years but hey that's better than nothing.

is there any french engine in f414 dimension and thrust class?

 

[shade2]

Uttam for MKI i.e Virupaksha radar won't get delayed tbh. So no need to worry on that front. For mk2 mwf we can always go with french engines, yea it will delay it by 1-2 years but hey that's better than nothing.

How so optimistic saar?

I've heard Uttam is ready for Tejas now so is it easy to upscale the same radar for MKI?
I don't know anything about radar so asking.

 

[randombully]

How so optimistic saar?

I've heard Uttam is ready for Tejas now so is it easy to upscale the same radar for MKI?
I don't know anything about radar so asking.

Virupaksha is upscale varient of uttam varient being developed for tejas mk2.

 

[FalconSlayers]

How so optimistic saar?

I've heard Uttam is ready for Tejas now so is it easy to upscale the same radar for MKI?
I don't know anything about radar so asking.

There is another company pitching their AESA radar for Super Sukhoi i.e. Data Patterns Hawk-I with 2700 T/R Modules.

 

[concard]

There is another company pitching their AESA radar for Super Sukhoi i.e. Data Patterns Hawk-I with 2700 T/R Modules.
View attachment 41284

How the heck Indian private company built a AESA radar on their own? What am I missing here? Is the Radar ready? I am wondering who are their backers. This is not something private Indian company will get into without sufficient guarantees that their product is given a chance to be used in armed forces.

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

OT but...

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1938576144099373108

 

[randombully]

How the heck Indian private company built a AESA radar on their own? What am I missing here? Is the Radar ready? I am wondering who are their backers. This is not something private Indian company will get into without sufficient guarantees that their product is given a chance to be used in armed forces.

Tech transfer from drdo.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Makes sense since Project Kusha, especially longer range interceptors are still some time away.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1938615087230804324

 

[shade2]

Makes sense since Project Kusha, especially longer range interceptors are still some time away.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1938615087230804324

Will Ruskal deliver these to us tho?
Already 2 regiments are pending afaik

btw in 1 regiment how many missile launchers and radar trucks are there?

 

[daya]

actual missed opportunity was the designs and blue prints of antonov which couldnt come into production due to fund crunch, we could have gone xhina - iai lavi route to get its design and get iaf its mta and awacs and refuellers all from the same aircraft, hence better logistics, and when we build it on our own, we can export it too

missed opportunity 2 - forcing the vodka to allow more and more indigenous changes in su30 mki, so that we change those metal surface with composites atleast, xhina way again

But our leaders are filled with short-sighted-ness. They don't have vision which is required to cope up with our rogue neighbours and insiders.

 

[FalconSlayers]

btw in 1 regiment how many missile launchers and radar trucks are there?

No clear info, various sources have various numbers. Some say 8 TELs per Regiment some say 16 TELs. No fixed number available.

View: https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1922551923669979264

 

[username unkown]

Makes sense since Project Kusha, especially longer range interceptors are still some time away.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1938615087230804324

Correct me If am wrong but isn't project kusha is to be inducted before 2030
Will Russian be able to deliver pending order let alone a follow on order before 2030

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Guys, can we use the Byelka( su57 ) or Zhuk AESA( mig35 ) radars on our MKIs?
Just as a fallback assuming Uttam for MKI is delayed?

Any other aesa radars we can buy from 5 places and integrate?

imo main things are
>2-3 sqdrns Rafale purchase
>Get super sukhoi upgrade done quickly
>Get AMCA in service quickly.


mk2 mwf ka dekha jayega i have no hopes

Uttam Radar completed development/User trials. In fact we can install Uttam radar from 20th Tejas MK1A itself instead of original 40 since they are done considering any delay.

How the heck Indian private company built a AESA radar on their own? What am I missing here? Is the Radar ready? I am wondering who are their backers. This is not something private Indian company will get into without sufficient guarantees that their product is given a chance to be used in armed forces.

Apparently few DcPP partners were building their own fork from DRDO Tech transfer. Example VEM ATGM is basically coming from MPATGM/NAG development. Simlarly Radar DcPP now coming up with their own forks.