Design- F-22A is a dedicated Air Superiority fighter
Super cruise-and very high power to wait ratio, giving it immense advantage in enemy engagements and survivability.
Thrust vectoring
It has specialised Electronic attack variant
Supercruise Is good.
But not a immense advantage.
Having irst/eots is bigger advantage(f22 lacks), having Das is bigger advantage(f22 lacks), having implied situational awareness and faster data sharing is bigger advantage(f22 lacks), having ability to guide weapons of another fighter jet is bigger advantage(f22 lacks).
Su57, j20, f35 all have these things.
Thrust vecorting is good in some niche cases if it gets into dog fight, I said niche because energy retention is a big deal in dog fight and thrust vectoring wastes lot of energy.
And su57 can do thrust vectoring.
No, it does not have specialised Electronic attack varient, the only plane in US arsenal to have that varient Is f/A 18 SH, the varient is called growler.
Simulaton as per interviews of F22 pilots
(8/10 is not the exact number they said but something like that. They have videos on Youtube)
That simulation was against 4th( non stealth) american fighter in mid 2010's, meaning f15 C/D and f16 blk52 type planes.
Now f15C/D are su30mki standard, the latest f15ex is 4.5+ gen.
If you will bring that definition than f35 is a better 'secret weapon".
And that irst and fso that russian had for decades f22, does not have it, pod was suggested but rejected, because it will take away the stealth of f22.
That lack of eots/irst and situational awareness gives f22 a massive disadvantage against other "stealth fighters".
And it's pretty vunrable to jamming compared to latest Self protection EW suites.
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/znnjdo/an_ea18g_growler_with_an_f22_kill_mark_album/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Here's a pics of a growler(F18SH dedicated EW varient) having f22 kill marks in a simulated exercise in around 2010.
Now this will never happen with an f35.
Inferior Radar
Inferior SPJ and EWS
Inferior missiles
Result :AMRAAM Dodgers medals to the pilots or if unfortunate Param Vir Chakra
That inferior radar is bars no11, its3 decades old radar.
Those missiles are also 2+decades old.
And it's not a missiles fault completely, the no11 Bars of mki has significant clutter and hard to track target beyond 100+km even with higher range, and again PAK EW plane in that area, which further degraded no11's performance.
The same shit will having to apg-63 V1 radar of F15 C/D.
I'm not claiming russian "latest" radars are as good as "latest" american ones, but the only US fighter radars better than "latest" russian radars are "latsest" american ones.
Its idiotic to even think that what is available on Maruti 800 can’t be done with Maruti Grand Vitara
Whether you consider it Idiotic doesn't change reality.
That Maruti 800, went through upgrades, the latest varient of Maruti 800 is completely different and only similarity with previous version is design.
While that grand vitara, while capable of getting upgrades, have not gotten those upgrades.
It's only "recently" that upgrade Programe for f22 started.
And it's not a guarantee whether upgrades will be carried out to bring it close to f35 standard, or USAF will find it too bothersome and expensive and just retire the f22 and buy more f35.
All f22 in service right now are 5th gen in only stealth and engines, not in avionics.
but it can with Another F22 and E2D or E3.
Its just a compatibility issue
Exactly, it doesn't have the same network Centric capabilities that f35, j20 and even su57 have.
….).Its a big lumbering metal piece in the sky against any competent FGFA.
