Indian Politics and Democracy

[Azaad]

MP: Ruled by Bhajpa (the supposedly clean party) for 15 years. Meanwhile, the culture of MP


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Wait is this why I'm going to be mocked next?

India should drop habeas corpus and just jail or execute anybody that behaves in this manner. Thin out the population by removing the dumbest and/or most corrupt of society.

What're things like in the US assuming you're from the US where insurance cos dictate what is the regimen of treatment doctors would prescribe patients ? What did you do then ?

Deploy Habeas Corpus to uphold the right to get proper treatment at a medical facility outside the purview of insurance cos ? Or did you get an assault rifle & mow down such insurance cos or the medical facilities ?

Previously I thought yours was a case of ignorance on account of not being familiar with the scene here which will get better in some aspects & worse in others .

Now it seems to me you're more of an LCD - lowest common denominator types who picks up some of the worst examples in Indian society & pins it on 1.4 billion people characterising everybody as an offender.

It's also called trolling & people who indulge in trolling are trolls. Decide how exactly you wish to be known out here .

 

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India should drop habeas corpus and just jail or execute anybody that behaves in this manner. Thin out the population by removing the dumbest and/or most corrupt of society.

You know.
Even if we ignore the ruthless despotism of your ideas and ignore moral aspects completely.

Even then Just by logical thinking These types of ideas never end well.
they just "never" end well once a country start going down that path.

And by suggesting these idea's you are proving yourself to be part of the "dumbest and most ignorant echelons of society"
So by your logic, you deserve to be executed.

By my logic, you deserved to be mocked.

 

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What're things like in the US assuming you're from the US where insurance cos dictate what is the regimen of treatment doctors would prescribe patients ? What did you do then ?

Deploy Habeas Corpus to uphold the right to get proper treatment at a medical facility outside the purview of insurance cos ? Or did you get an assault rifle & mow down such insurance cos or the medical facilities ?

Previously I thought yours was a case of ignorance on account of not being familiar with the scene here which will get better in some aspects & worse in others .

Now it seems to me you're more of an LCD - lowest common denominator types who picks up some of the worst examples in Indian society & pins it on 1.4 billion people characterising everybody as an offender.

It's also called trolling & people who indulge in trolling are trolls. Decide how exactly you wish to be known out here .

I speak from my own experience in India too. I have some limited experience with Indian healthcare sector. Your doctors spend 1 minute with a patient and then prescribe medications that treat absolutely nothing (Librium (chlordiazepoxide) for stomach pain? lol what?). Insurance companies in the US overcharging is meaningless. We are developing decentralized medicine in the US. If you know where to look you don't need insurance (the government mandates it though unfortunately).

India and Indians are known for corruption. It's not me attributing one person to X or one person to Y. In the US, when we think of Indians, and I am Indian, we have a presumption that you are going to get scammed or haggled or something dishonorable will happen in your dealing with this person. In fact my own dealing with many first generation Indians when I provide a service is of this nature as well. I see it in my parents too.

Edit: Since you may not know from my previous complainings: When I went to Kedarnath, the Gujarati pujaris themselves were demanding bribes from me for a Rudraabhishekham. By the way after extorting me for 8500 Rs (5000 rs + 3500rs bribe) I got to spend a measly 5 minutes with the Shivalingam with 0 Sri Rudram.

Call me whatever you want, but nothing will change the reputation of Indians. I just point it out and mock you for it. I suppose it is far easier to live in an insulated bubble and presume people like me exist only to "troll" than to actually introspect and ask yourself "What can I do to change this reputation people have of my people?"

You know.
Even if we ignore the ruthless despotism of your ideas and ignore moral aspects completely.

Even then Just by logical thinking These types of ideas never end well.
they just "never" end well once a country start going down that path.

And by suggesting these idea's you are proving yourself to be part of the "dumbest and most ignorant echelons of society"
So by your logic, you deserve to be executed.

By my logic, you deserved to be mocked.

See above.

 

[Azaad]

I speak from my own experience in India too. I have some limited experience with Indian healthcare sector. Your doctors spend 1 minute with a patient and then prescribe medications that treat absolutely nothing (Librium (chlordiazepoxide) for stomach pain? lol what?). Insurance companies in the US overcharging is meaningless. We are developing decentralized medicine in the US. If you know where to look you don't need insurance (the government mandates it though unfortunately).

How is insurance companies over charging different from doctors in India overcharging ? Besides the US government has made health insurance mandatory . What you're describing are outliers. There are more alternative medicine systems available in India than anywhere in the world except possibly China.

And believe me the majority of Indians still swear by these alternative medicine systems.

Which brings me to the original point. How about putting your money where your mouth is & filing that Habeas Corpus in your district court or alternatively how about mowing down the nearest insurance office you can locate if not the nearest medical center.

India and Indians are known for corruption.

There you go again. You're smearing 1.4 billion people based on your limited experience. Hence in your book , every Italian is a mafioso , every Irishman is a drunk Paddy , every German is a potential Nazi , every Russian is a potential criminal and on & on .

It's not me attributing one person to X or one person to Y. In the US, when we think of Indians, and I am Indian, we have a presumption that you are going to get scammed or haggled or something dishonorable will happen in your dealing with this person. In fact my own dealing with many first generation Indians when I provide a service is of this nature as well. I see it in my parents too.

Ditto for Jews & Chinese. Why do you think all 3 groups are stereotyped & stigmatized here there & everywhere ? What happens if a WASP - a white Anglo Saxon Protestant does the same to you ? Or are you suggesting that they're the most honest race God created when the very reason we're speaking their language was the result of nearly 2 centuries of organised resource extraction which'd put the most hardened mafioso to shame , 100 million plus deaths purely man made famines during their rule which they themselves acknowledge , which in turn would give the most hardened Nazi running those death camps a complex , hundreds of thousands of girls some as young as 6 sent to staff the brothels of their armies in India while they went about tom tomming their civilising mission which people like you'd applaud like the banning of Sati showing they cared so much for female emancipation by enacting such a law , where they themselves were burning witches at the stake barely a century ago.

That's not all. You know better what those WASPs did yo native Americans or the Spanish did out there to the rest of the Americas.

Edit: Since you may not know from my previous complainings: When I went to Kedarnath, the Gujarati pujaris themselves were demanding bribes from me for a Rudraabhishekham. By the way after extorting me for 8500 Rs (5000 rs + 3500rs bribe) I got to spend a measly 5 minutes with the Shivalingam with 0 Sri Rudram.

So why did you pay them ? You had a choice . You should've walked off .

Call me whatever you want, but nothing will change the reputation of Indians. I just point it out and mock you for it. I suppose it is far easier to live in an insulated bubble and presume people like me exist only to "troll" than to actually introspect and ask yourself "What can I do to change this reputation people have of my people?"

Your mocking will not change anything rather it brings across quite clearly your own inferiority complex apart from your own psychological condition which comes across as pathological for want of a better word.

Engage yourself in much more constructive pursuits. We've had our share of hanjians or race traitors as the Chinese describe them . Whatever we've achieved is in spite of them not because of them .

Keep venting your frustrations here

See above.

 

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India and Indians are known for corruption. It's not me attributing one person to X or one person to Y. In the US, when we think of Indians, and I am Indian, we have a presumption that you are going to get scammed or haggled or something dishonorable will happen in your dealing with this person. In fact my own dealing with many first generation Indians when I provide a service is of this nature as well. I see it in my parents too.

Edit: Since you may not know from my previous complainings: When I went to Kedarnath, the Gujarati pujaris themselves were demanding bribes from me for a Rudraabhishekham. By the way after extorting me for 8500 Rs (5000 rs + 3500rs bribe) I got to spend a measly 5 minutes with the Shivalingam with 0 Sri Rudram.

Call me whatever you want, but nothing will change the reputation of Indians. I just point it out and mock you for it. I suppose it is far easier to live in an insulated bubble and presume people like me exist only to "troll" than to actually introspect and ask yourself "What can I do to change this reputation people have of my people?"

Your frustration comes from "reputation of indians" in usa and the insecurity and discrimination it makes you feel.

But I can guarantee you, most of all that "reputation" is initiated on their own bias and preduige

Like here, right wing goras have reputation of being known as racist wignats with weird fetish of imaging their women with black men and then crying.

And left wing goras has reputation of being
He/she/they/falana dekhana, and mutilating and indoctrinating their own children.


So your problem is being a minority where the majority hates/discriminates mainly based on their own prejudice, and rest of society doesn't take it seriously
it more has to do with normalizing racism and prejudice against Indians then any thing else, once you have prejudice against certain group then it's not hard to find things to hate on.

So would be much better for you go there and fight against racism then being a sore loser who copes by mocking his own people, and justify the discrimation by goras.
Again, when people have preduige they will find things to make fun off, when internet didn't exist, they made fun of our accent, our clothes, our skin colour, and still do.
And it's not going anywhere unless you guys go and do social movements.


Like, in the same usa it's a highly controversial take to even say truths Like.
" black people commits most crime relative to the population".

Your mocking your own people in a defense forum where at most 100 people will interact with you ain't gonna improve india, neither will improve indian reputation, neither will take away preduige and racism of goras
It's just gonna make you feel more pathetic and frustrated.
Your battlefield should be in usa fighting against racism, but here you are hiding in a indian forum mainly for defense And coping.

 

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Maharashtra Minister Launches "Rightful" Mutton Shops Run By HindusAnnouncing the Malhar certification initiative, Nitesh Rane urged people not to purchase mutton from "places where Malhar certification is not available".

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Mar 10, 2025 19:59 pm IST
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Maharashtra Minister Launches "Rightful" Mutton Shops Run By Hindus
Mumbai:
Maharashtra minister Nitesh Rane announced a new certification for mutton shops that would be run only by Hindus. Announcing the Malhar certification initiative, he urged people not to purchase mutton from "places where Malhar certification is not available". The effort, he added, would make the youth of the Hindu community "financially empowered" and "no adulteration will be found in the mutton".

The Malhar certification will be similar to the existing halal certification in India, where the animals are slaughtered according to the Islamic laws. The other process is "jhatka", where the neck of an animal is severed with a single blow -- as opposed to the halal process of draining the blood first.

Each side has traditionally claimed that its process is more humane.

In a post on X, Mr Rane today said, "Through Malhar Certification, we will have access to our rightful mutton shops and there will be a 100 percent Hindu community and the person selling will also be a Hindu".


Describing the launch as a "very important step for the Hindu community in Maharashtra' he said, "I appeal to you to use Malhar certification as much as possible and in fact, not to buy mutton from places where Malhar certification is not available".

Over the last few years, right-wing groups in several BJP-ruled states have started a campaign against halal meat.

The controversy started in Karnataka, where right-wing leaders called for the boycott of halal meat, labelling it an "economic jihad".

They claimed the halal process was discriminatory, since Hindus cannot be employed in the slaughter and packing chain. Besides domestic consumption, halal meat is also a huge industry in terms of exports, because Muslim nations insist on it.

Moreover, while the word halal is used mostly in the context of meat, its actual meaning is "permissible" under Islamic law.

So vegetarian food or fish products or even pharma items that contain alcohol or pork (fat) or other items banned under Islam, are considered contaminated and not halal. This is why halal certification is also given to many such products, especially for exports.

The right wing has contended that it is essential to set up an alternate system for youths, and there have been demands for a jhatka certification authority from some quarters.