Indian Railways

[crazywithmath]

Cope

Post wasn't directed at you (I put idiots and motormouths on my ignore list). Not sure why you got your panties in a twist. Put me on your ignore list, if needed..

 

[londonparistokyo]

Post wasn't directed at you (I put idiots and motormouths on my ignore list). Not sure why you got your panties in a twist. Put me on your ignore list, if needed..

Sorry. Will not do as I enjoy your posts.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

1. Can we do something regarding Curvature? like straightening of tracks
2. What can be maximum speeds if tracks are too unviable to be straightened?
3. Is 150 to 180 KMPH Possible on present Curvatures? Could having quicker acceleration reduce times?

1. Work is going on in multiple divisions. Recently few curves in Chennai-Bengaluru lines were upgraded to run at 100-110 kmph.
2. Lot of sections have abysmal 15kmph, 55 kmph which are getting upgraded to 100-110 kmph. In few areas they are removing the curves itself. With experience in dfccil construction I hope railways will go with viaduct and tunnels. Ex. Mumbai Pune section needs this.
3. Need to check. Faster acceleration deceleration leads to better turnaround.

 

[TopWatcher]

News coming that now only confirmed ticket will allow to enter railway station. Already NDLS started it as a pilot project.

 

[SKC]

I genuinely appreciate how you guys can keep explaining the same thing over and over and over again to some esteemed armchair experts who have never gone through a budget doc in their entire life.

I know but they are persistent with the unwarranted criticism so should be we with the explanation. Otherwise, these will claim victory and legitimize all their claims.​

 

[SKC]

News coming that now only confirmed ticket will allow to enter railway station. Already NDLS started it as a pilot project.

Yes, everyone is reporting about it now:


View: https://x.com/Indian_Analyzer/status/1898212684484534575

 

[Gandaberunda]

What NHAI is doing with greenfield express ways is what Indian railways has to do. Build new high speed corridors 250 kmph greenfield tracks between major metroplis ( Mumbai - Delhi / Mumbai - Bengaluru / Mumbai- Kolkata Delhi - Kolkata ) and run semi high speed trains as point to point travel with fewer stops) The existing infrastructure can be gradually upgraded to 160 kmph to support the present operational trains and cover small towns) this will make IR faster and also doesn’t strain the infrastructure.

 

[Prasad]

Yes, everyone is reporting about it now:


View: https://x.com/Indian_Analyzer/status/1898212684484534575

Exactly what we were discussing and proposing.

Selling that many tickets and allowing that many people inside a railway station never made any sense.

 

[SKC]

Exactly what we were discussing and proposing.

Selling that many tickets and allowing that many people inside a railway station never made any sense.

Need a cultural change in the Indian families both urban and dehat. Even to drop a single person, whole family goes in drove to Railway stations. Even to drop them outside the departure in Airports whole family accompanies the traveler.​

 

[notaname]

Yes, everyone is reporting about it now:


View: https://x.com/Indian_Analyzer/status/1898212684484534575

What happens to those who can't read and are elderly, who will get them seated at their seats and what if someone else is sitting on their seat and they are alone?

And what happens if train is late as we already have congested waiting rooms even platforms are crowded to the brim at many stations how will they accommodate extra crowd? Will that not repeat what has happened previously?

And that can't be implemented like airports it's simple as that, stations have way more crowd than airports at any given time.

This is why I hate these half hearted solutions and their implementations without thinking on any of the scenarios.

 

[SKC]

What happens to those who can't read and are elderly, who will get them seated at their seats and what if someone else is sitting on their seat and they are alone?

And what happens if train is late as we already have congested waiting rooms even platforms are crowded to the brim at many stations how will they accommodate extra crowd? Will that not repeat what has happened previously?

And that can't be implemented like airports it's simple as that, stations have way more crowd than airports at any given time.

This is why I hate these half hearted solutions and their implementations without thinking on any of the scenarios.

You can't plan each and everything in advance. You have to educate people.​

 

[Prasad]

What happens to those who can't read and are elderly, who will get them seated at their seats and what if someone else is sitting on their seat and they are alone?

And what happens if train is late as we already have congested waiting rooms even platforms are crowded to the brim at many stations how will they accommodate extra crowd? Will that not repeat what has happened previously?

And that can't be implemented like airports it's as simple as that, stations have way more crowd than airports at any given time.

This is why I hate these half hearted solutions and their implementations without thinking on any of the scenarios.

Same as in airports.
If it works in airports, a model that fits the needs as well as cater to the volume of Railways can be done.

In fact if the govt is smart this can generate few thousands of jobs in just railways.
A whole new sector in Railways that caters to and helps passengers in Railway stations.

It will be 2 positive things for BJP, it generates employment and it generates good will.

 

[notaname]

You can't plan each and everything in advance. You have to educate people.​

But will this not create more issues than we already face while using train?

Already going by train is task itself.

How are you going to teach elderly and uneducated to identify the bogie number and seat number?

 

[notaname]

Same as in airports.
If it works in airports, a model that fits the needs as well as cater to the volume of Railways can be done.

In fact if the govt is smart this can generate few thousands of jobs in just railways.
A whole new sector in Railways that caters to and helps passengers in Railway stations.

It will be 2 positive things for BJP, it generates employment and it generates good will.

No it will not generate any goodwill, try boarding a train when it only stops for 2 min at any station, and train stations don't have that much space you can't create space on the fly and majority of the airports are outside city where they can be expanded, try doing that with stations.

Do airports get same number of passengers as stations?

 

[SKC]

But will this not create more issues than we already face while using train?

Already going by train is task itself.

Then let it happened for some time. Let people suffer for few months and then they will eventually get used to new rules.

I have been travelling alone since ages. I have been traveling alone to and from railway stations, airports, and bus depots since the age of 14 or 15.

Women in the family also travels alone as much as possible usually only 1 member accompanies them to the stations.​

 

[notaname]

Then let it happened for some time. Let people suffer for few months and then they will eventually get used to new rules.

I have been travelling alone since ages. I have been traveling alone to and from railway stations, airports, and bus depots since the age of 14 or 15.

Women in the family also travels alone as much as possible usually only 1 member accompanies them to the stations.​

I have also been travelling alone but it's not about me or you. I am not talking about us who can read and even fight if there is need.

That's I am saying one member always drops them. I am not talking about many going, I am taking about one only.

Check my edited post, how are they going to get used to new rules? Educate me on that genuinely I want to know. Maybe someone got some idea.

 

[Prasad]

No it will not generate any goodwill, try boarding a train when it only stops for 2 min at any station, and train stations don't have that much space you can't create space on the fly and majority of the airports are outside city where they can be expanded, try doing that with stations.

Do airports get same number of passengers as stations?

The time is not even an issue.
Change it to Metro model. instead of fixed time stop, just wait until every one is on board and then flag off. I doubt Railways would lose any time loss this way, especially when you consider limiting people on platforms.

Many airports in India would see much larger numbers than most Railway stations.

I would thin the problem of over-crowding in railway stations is limited to cities.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[Blademaster]

Then let it happened for some time. Let people suffer for few months and then they will eventually get used to new rules.

I have been travelling alone since ages. I have been traveling alone to and from railway stations, airports, and bus depots since the age of 14 or 15.

Women in the family also travels alone as much as possible usually only 1 member accompanies them to the stations.​

Not to mention that it would provide more safety to women because it means less people and therefore less bad actors.

 

[ezsasa]

What NHAI is doing with greenfield express ways is what Indian railways has to do. Build new high speed corridors 250 kmph greenfield tracks between major metroplis ( Mumbai - Delhi / Mumbai - Bengaluru / Mumbai- Kolkata Delhi - Kolkata ) and run semi high speed trains as point to point travel with fewer stops) The existing infrastructure can be gradually upgraded to 160 kmph to support the present operational trains and cover small towns) this will make IR faster and also doesn’t strain the infrastructure.

when it comes to IR, it's not just about speed, it's also about density and congestion. so adding tracks at high density routes is also one of the things being done.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...k-seven-busy-routes/articleshow/104766737.cms

and this is not a new plan, below is an old response in LS.

https://eparlib.nic.in/bitstream/123456789/660711/1/15269.pdf

in practical terms, the solutions looks like this from gormint policy side.


View: https://youtu.be/Gk_FhUkbJzE

and since these is no feedback loop in public discourse, pretty sure no one will bother to check the impact a few years later, after these projects get completed.