Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[username unkown]

It's a sweet gun if routinely maintained and run with good ammo. The Trijicon RMR (assuming that's what is being talked about here) is as reliable as micro red dots get. Bit pricy but you get value.

Best i know trijcon rmr or red dot is pricey and shitty

 

[Noob]

Best i know trijcon rmr or red dot is pricey and shitty

It's alright works well with scorpion they probably got them as combo

 

[Noob]

ASTR is doing good icl I would love to see them making rifles

They did make one never to appear again until next defexpo probably (which only god knows when will happen)

 

[Mr.Evil]

They did make one never to appear again until next defexpo probably (which only god knows when will happen)

Any pictures?
I guess they will surely go in that direction we’ll some decent competition in indigenous arms race in future

 

[username unkown]

Scorpions are fine af but that's not the point my point was only criticizing police forces isn't right the Armed forces are using all kinds of loopholes to get yahoodi maal that one tender Asmii won had to go through so much trouble just to get the contract after the announcement.

This loophole makes me remember a case of airplane guy from Maharashtra despite having approval from pm and cm he couldn't make his 19 seeter aircraft that he built on roof of his home because he failed lot of roadblocks and in the end he ended up moving to america as long as import lobby exist kuch na hone wala kuch ummed hi nahi rakhni merko abb

 

[username unkown]

It's alright works well with scorpion they probably got them as combo

Sorry my bad
Trijcon rmr is good but its pistol sight
Trijcon mro is shitty one

 

[username unkown]

Any pictures?
I guess they will surely go in that direction we’ll some decent competition in indigenous arms race in future

From 11:38

View: https://youtu.be/Nc8_kL4si2k?si=iBhvdran75YwKCof

 

[Mr.Evil]

From 11:38

View: https://youtu.be/Nc8_kL4si2k?si=iBhvdran75YwKCof

thanks brother

 

[Ayan Barat]

There's a huge scope for improvement in ASMI before it can compete with global contemporaries. Not to mention the fact that end of the day it's still an open bolt gun.

Here's it with MP9 (both scaled), one of the closest competition in its class.

 

[IWIarad11]

Usme bhi yahoodi maal

Amriki gucchi maal toh nahi ayga bhai. Likh ke dedu mai. Ar 15 chaiye toh pray to lord day and night about Car 816/14.5 Arad and cope hard

 

[Mr.Evil]

There's a huge scope for improvement in ASMI before it can compete with global contemporaries. Not to mention the fact that end of the day it's still an open bolt gun.

Here's it with MP9 (both scaled), one of the closest competition in its class.
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I didn’t wanted to be the guy who says it lol
I agree with you 100%

 

[Noob]

Any pictures?
I guess they will surely go in that direction we’ll some decent competition in indigenous arms race in future

From 11:38

View: https://youtu.be/Nc8_kL4si2k?si=iBhvdran75YwKCof

Tried to copy SCAR at first then changed butt later and then the project went blank until next Defexpo ig or they just realised it wouldn't work and shifted their attention to pistols afaik they were invited by SSSD to their range in Bangalore to shoot this gun.

There's a huge scope for improvement in ASMI before it can compete with global contemporaries. Not to mention the fact that end of the day it's still an open bolt gun.

Here's it with MP9 (both scaled), one of the closest competition in its class.
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You recon we have have an competition inviting bids from private sector (actual one ) to improve or give the gun their own twist like they did with ugram? Can go both ways we have have more refined and great project or we can end up with another clown gun (but atleast we will still have Asmii)

Amriki gucchi maal toh nahi ayga bhai. Likh ke dedu mai. Ar 15 chaiye toh pray to lord day and night about Car 816/14.5 Arad and cope hard

Likhne ka jarurat ni he ni aana uncle Sam ka mall I am just schoked how deep yhoodis have dug in our market and are profeting off us since years and have a whole section in military that supports them ifyyk we should have done the Car deal in 2019 and put an end to this whole circus or just give SSSD a chance to improve on the design with help of sf intakes.

 

[SKC]

Skc bhai you are a bullpupiya aswell?!?! NOOOOOO
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I am not a BullPupiya

I am Da BULLPUPiya!!

 

[Zoid Raptor]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1836622600929448292?t=h2u2bD7qTD5m3jKpU7H5qw&s=19

Chal jutthe Armed forces ke lie bhi kaha he?

Kuch nhi ho sakta ab toh umeed hi mar gayi
Don't know about cz scorpion smg maybe good but this red dot they selected is shitty

It's a sweet gun if routinely maintained and run with good ammo. The Trijicon RMR (assuming that's what is being talked about here) is as reliable as micro red dots get. Bit pricy but you get value.

Holosun is all the rage in the US civilian market right now. They're 1/3rd the price of Trijicon, Aimpoint and the likes while performance is on par (or slightly under). A ton of US Tier-I SOF vets mentioned on Shawn Ryan's Podcasts that they actually use Holosun on their EDCs'

while here we have Odisha state police who might hardly ever get to fire a round (unless actively used in naxal ops) procuring Trijicons and CZ Scorpions ($800-1200 based on variant)

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Why do y'all hate the tavor so much?

Looks - I get it.

But if if functions fine in the field then why?

Just slap a 3x magnifier at the back, a flashlight on the side rails and a mini vertical foregrip by removing the handguard.

Ideal spec ops rifle.

Only problem I have heard is that its overgassed + got bit of a stiff trigger.

Other than that same range and ammo as M4 but more compact

Just curious, enlighten me a bit

If you ever get a chance to travel to SE Asia or US, I'd suggest to attend a basic rifle course just to learn how to handle and shoot where you're most likely given some AR based platform. Then go to a gun store which offers packages where you get to try out various rifles in an indoor gun range and you'd realize what sorta abomination bullpups are when compared to a conventional platform, particularly on the ergonomics front and ease of use

The primary cons I heard about Tavors are accuracy over distance, relatively heavier than most ARs' with uneven weight distribution, gas face - no one wants hot metal ejecting right next to your face, unconventional mag changes since most of our men are initially trained on AKs' or Insas.

Some of these issues were fixed with the X-95 (after input from Indian SF I believe) but if compactness is your primary reason for bullpups, I'd opt for a 10 inch barrel AR over these anytime

 

[username unkown]

Holosun is all the rage in the US civilian market right now. They're 1/3rd the price of Trijicon, Aimpoint and the likes while performance is on par. A ton of US Tier-I SOF vets mentioned on Shawn Ryan's Podcasts that they actually use Holosun on their EDCs'

while here we have Odisha state police who might hardly ever get to fire a round (unless actively used in naxal ops) procuring Trijicons and CZ Scorpions ($800-1200 based on variant)

Agree on most but only half on holoson is not good as aimpoint/EOTech/trijcon. But for cost holosun is lot better and if you don't want to buy aimpoint/EOTech/trijcon for thier price then thier are good optics on half of thier prize like sig , meprolight and maybe votex
Holoson is also good for its cost but I am pretty biased against it its Chinese

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Agree on most but only half on holoson is not good as aimpoint/EOTech/trijcon. But for cost holosun is lot better and if you don't want to buy aimpoint/EOTech/trijcon for thier price then thier are good optics on half of thier prize like sig , meprolight and maybe votex
Holoson is also good for its cost but I am pretty biased against it its Chinese

Would you be biased against DJI just because it's Chinese despite being the best civilian drone firm in the world! Holosun's US arm is HQ'd outta Sunrise, Florida with all or most of their products destined for the US markets are made/assembled locally

In regards to Odisha police's order, a 9mm round isn't something one would use for anti-naxal ops which indicates they just blew some money to a middleman while these Scorpions and Trijicons will be gathering dust. If the need is real for a 9mm, they're better off with the ASMI while I'm unsure if any Indian company makes red dots since Tonbo's catalogue doesn't seem to have one

 

[KAB7777]

Would you be biased against DJI just because it's Chinese despite being the best civilian drone firm in the world! Holosun's US arm is HQ'd outta Sunrise, Florida with all or most of their products destined for the US markets are made/assembled locally

In regards to Odisha police's order, a 9mm round isn't something one would use for anti-naxal ops which indicates they just blew some money to a middleman while these Scorpions and Trijicons will be gathering dust. If the need is real for a 9mm, they're better off with the ASMI while I'm unsure if any Indian company makes red dots since Tonbo's catalogue doesn't seem to have one

I believe we’ve got a Holosun Rebadger in India too. I believe someone here showed some uncanny resemblance of RRP S4E Optics and Holosun Optics.

 

[Noob]

I believe we’ve got a Holosun Rebadger in India too. I believe someone here showed some uncanny resemblance of RRP S4E Optics and Holosun Optics.

Me trying to find what does Indian Industry not

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Me trying to find what does Indian Industry not

I wouldn't blame em' tbh. If the tech and industry doesn't exist locally, where'd you find people with relevant expertise to work on?

Unless you're funded enough to hire small arms and accessories designers from the west like Caracal. I'm still curious how SSSD did it despite Vivek Krishnan claiming that they didn't receive any external help...since OFB is the only entity with experience in gun design but I doubt if those faggots can even remotely think on the lines of SSSD's designs