Indian Special Forces

[rkhanna]

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/04/nx-s1-5100305/navy-commander-photo-rifle-scope-mounted-backward

The commander of a Navy destroyer that’s helping protect the San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt in the Middle East has been relieved of duty about four months after he was seen in a photo firing a rifle with a scope mounted backward.

Can You imagine Indian officers - let alone SOF personel being held to such a standard?!

 

[rkhanna]

When a Sqn of SG goes for a CI-CT tenure in the valley or NE, they're are issues Tar-21 Integrals(M21 or ACOG), PIKAs, SVD and Ak-63Ds as standard issue. You won't see them going into a CI Op with F2000 or HK-416s!

Well when 2-3 forces are involved at one Op, we invest in the Op and not in a single unit!

SG's mandates have been changing with the raising, disbandment and reraising of the the unit. MARCOs are way better regarding the ISR and other things you listed.

SG was only 'Special' when it was raised to undertake Army HQ level Ops or to undertake federal contingency roles such as CI-CT in urban area or Anti-Hijack, after NSG was created SG was of no use and hence disbanded. It was reraised with a different mandate but its at best is an Airborne Inf with Spec Ops capabilities(thnx to PARA SF element on deputation for 6yrs)....

1. This FNs and HKs were test batches if I remmember correctly - primarily in the hands of instructors and very few given out
2. if the HK is an active duty weapon system - its stupid its not getting used downrange. Kinda Like CRPF COBRA being issued the MTARs but not allowed to take it into the field incase they got damaged or lost
3. From What I can make out SG Mandates are by the CO running the unit at any given moment and his linking to CS/Army HQ
4. SG has infact done many special things over the years and not just limited to its original raising function - through the 80s/90s/and early 2000s as well
5. Even our Spec Ops units are essentially Commando Light Infantry units. Our Spec Ops capability has a ceiling IMO

I dont understand why would SG need to get experience by doing petty ops?

They are made of the best operators of Para why do they need to go to such ops?

I have been out of the loop of SG for few years now - all my contacts to that place are now either dead or too old to rememeber well. But my basic understanding is that "Best operators" bit may no longer apply for the following reasons from what i have surmized from various titbits here and there

- no longer run the type of ops that they used to
- very little value add for the Career Progression of Ofsars

Some of it tracks with what ARAD is saying above about its current "Status" (though I dont agree with everything he is saying - specially regarding its history)

 

[IWIarad11]

Mujhe bhi whi laga but @Arad Operator said 4SF

Arad operator sabko ulta seedha bolte hai taki no one can track the units and all. He is the real opsec guy!

SG ko normal airborne infantry bolte hai so that people dont make too many maverick reels

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Arad operator sabko ulta seedha bolte hai taki no one can track the units and all. He is the real opsec guy!

SG ko normal airborne infantry bolte hai so that people dont make too many maverick reels

SG does what 9 does..there are no special ops that 9 doesnt do but SG does.

 

[IWIarad11]

SG does what 9 does..there are no special ops that 9 doesnt do but SG does.

For 9 I agree.

 

[hunfrnc]

Can You imagine Indian officers - let alone SOF personel being held to such a standard?!

The said officer was not removed because of the scope put backwards, but because there was problem during replenishment at sea, putting 2 US Navy ships in danger.

You can read about it online.

 

[Unknowncommando]

View: https://youtu.be/jFxFDpzP9PU

 

[armyofhind]

Any book recommendations where one can read about the Ikhwan from conception to application in the valley?

 

[Zoid Raptor]

4 PARA SF
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This camo actually looks pretty good. Hope Paras standardize it across all units deployed in Kashmir and NE. Order some matching PCs' & battle belts to go with it while loosing those elbow & knee pads

 

[Mr.Evil]

This camo actually looks pretty good. Hope Paras standardize it across all units deployed in Kashmir and NE. Order some matching PCs' & battle belts to go with it while loosing those elbow & knee pads

Para SF’s honest reaction- “Standardise”

 

[Unknowncommando]

 

[Mr.Evil]

Brot this camo is so fire

 

[TAVOUR 21]

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1SF

 

[IWIarad11]

Brot this camo is so fire
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I told you already.

Should be std for NE & Jammu.

 

[IWIarad11]

Brot this camo is so fire
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Now coming to the embarrasing part cause IA afterall...

The regular soldiers from Rajputana rif were wearing this russian digital camo as thr upper and their new uniform as the lower

If you watch the entire video

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Any book recommendations where one can read about the Ikhwan from conception to application in the valley?

You wont find any books dedicated to specifics of infantry operations let alone the ikhwan lol.

 

[Mr.Evil]

The Mahindra Armado ASLV that met with accident yesterday was presumably from 9 PARA SF.
Lance Naik Baljeet Singh was The braveheart who lost his life in this tragic accident.

 

[BABU BHAIYAA]

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One question - why do some guys have an additional P-Rail mounted on the helmet's side rails ?

Is it a comtact???

 

[TAVOUR 21]

Is it a comtact???

Nope . It's single ear communication headset

 

[Mr.Evil]

Is it a comtact???

It is Silynx HSI-Infantry Headset afaik